Decline in Escort Quality?

[+ keroscenefire]

Is it just me or has the quality of the escort experience declined recently? Maybe because I had such good luck with regulars previously, but it just seems like the guys I'm hiring recently are just not able to provide a great experience.

I feel like I am pretty laid back and tell them exactly what I am looking for in the texts. I am versatile and enjoy oral, body contact, jacking and cuddling. Massage skills a plus but not required. But it seems like every guy I meet has a hard time getting/staying hard and/or is not physically ready to bottom. I've not had this problem with escorts like even last year. Really this is within the last six months or so and is multiple guys. I'm reasonably attractive and always am down to give oral, put on porn and take breaks if needed to keep the action going. But increasingly it's like guys want to get hard, fuck for five minutes and if you want any longer that's too bad. A lot of them don't even seem to like to cuddle and hang after. One guy told me he doesn't like to get sweaty. 

Sorry if this is too complaining, but I am just curious if anyone else is feeling like hiring is more and more like paying $300 for a bad Grindr hookup.

[Luv2play]

This sounds very frustrating for you. My experience differs and I have not experienced any decline in quality of escorts that I have been with either during the pandemic or post pandemic.

I hire at generally twice a month in the Montreal and Toronto market. Some come to me and some I go to. Many dates are multi hours or overnights.

I always make it clear behorehand what I am looking for and get their agreement in writing on RM or text or WhatsApp that they can perform.

Hemce usually I have a fabulous time. But it does take effort and does cost money. This ain't a cheap hobby.

[+ keroscenefire]

6 hours ago, Luv2play said:

This sounds very frustrating for you. My experience differs and I have not experienced any decline in quality of escorts that I have been with either during the pandemic or post pandemic.

I hire at generally twice a month in the Montreal and Toronto market. Some come to me and some I go to. Many dates are multi hours or overnights.

I always make it clear behorehand what I am looking for and get their agreement in writing on RM or text or WhatsApp that they can perform.

Hemce usually I have a fabulous time. But it does take effort and does cost money. This ain't a cheap hobby.

Thanks for the encouragement. I have got way back. I used to be more like 1-2 times a month but I've only seen like 4 guys since January. All of them were kinda disappointing in some way. Just a lot of new guys in my market. I'm planning a trip soon so hopefully I'll get a good experience traveling. Maybe Denver just isn't bringing quality guys anymore. It's unfortunate because truly I had some great regulars (all who left the biz). 
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[KeepItReal]

I am curious- what markets do you usually hire in and do you target a specific demographic? 

Edited June 26, 2023 by KeepItReal

[pubic_assistance]

14 hours ago, keroscenefire said:

increasingly it's like guys want to get hard, fuck for five minutes and if you want any longer that's too bad. A lot of them don't even seem to like to cuddle and hang after.

Sounds like you're hiring a lot of newbies to the business.

[+ keroscenefire]

1 hour ago, KeepItReal said:

I am curious- what markets do you usually hire in and do you target a specific demographic? 

I live in Denver, so definitely here in this area. Interestingly, I have hired a wide variety of ages. I did think initially it was maybe because they were younger guys, but the two most recent have been in their 30s and its been the same. They are mostly local guys though one a few months ago was a visitor from Brazil via Miami, so it's happened even with the international ones. The latter was actually a bit better than average. He at least was down to cuddle and hang after and we had some good conversation. Even that is surprisingly hard to find. 

[Act25]

I see it in the responses (or lack thereof) to my initial inquiry.   In the days of M4RN and RB I almost always received a reply when sending an initial email or text.   Now, I don’t even expect them from MB or FBP escorts and I doubt I’m much over 50% on RM escorts.  And that’s from sending a polite, succinct text.

[rvwnsd]

I have not seen a decline in the quality of the escorts I hire nor in the quality of my experiences. What I have seen is a drastic increase in the number of guys who are escorting. As the population of escorts increases it is natural that the population of not-so-great escorts also increases. 

[Rod Hagen]

On 6/25/2023 at 4:22 PM, keroscenefire said:

A lot of them don't even seem to like to cuddle and hang after. One guy told me he doesn't like to get sweaty. 

WTF?! :-(

[+ keroscenefire]

1 hour ago, Rod Hagen said:

WTF?! 😞

Yeah. I was like, I'm not sure if you're in the right business if you don't like to get sweaty. Weirdly he's a really ripped dude so clearly he must get sweaty at the gym but I guess not when having sex. 🤷‍♂️

[+ jessmapex]

Recently we had a thread where we discussed $500/hr pricing. Many in that thread concluded the price hike, in addition to inflation, was due to lack of new arrivals in to the trade due to Chaturbate and OnlyFans being good options to make money for many. 

So, quality and quantity both have gone down in the US....even in megamarkets like LA and NYC. New faces are mostly visitors from other countries. 

It"s time to consider immigration to the EU or the UK. Canada also seems to have great options. 

[EZEtoGRU]

On 6/27/2023 at 2:10 AM, rvwnsd said:

I have not seen a decline in the quality of the escorts I hire nor in the quality of my experiences. What I have seen is a drastic increase in the number of guys who are escorting. As the population of escorts increases it is natural that the population of not-so-great escorts also increases. 

It's interesting you mention this.  After seeing the recent thread about Mintboy, I had a look at the selection for the Detroit area.  Yuck!!!  A large number of very average to unattractive guys I wouldn't be interested in even if they were for free.  It was shocking to see how many unappealing guys are putting themselves out there as escorts.

Edited June 28, 2023 by EZEtoGRU

[+ SundayZip]

On 6/25/2023 at 6:22 PM, keroscenefire said:

Is it just me or has the quality of the escort experience declined recently? Maybe because I had such good luck with regulars previously, but it just seems like the guys I'm hiring recently are just not able to provide a great experience.

Sorry if this is too complaining, but I am just curious if anyone else is feeling like hiring is more and more like paying $300 for a bad Grindr hookup.

Many people are saying that The Global Union of Escorts (GUE) has negotiated a new contract that establishes a lower baseline for non-discretional client services. You could check the GUE website for an updated listing of non-discretional services, but the site is currently down. 

[+ Pensant]

On 6/27/2023 at 9:41 PM, jessmapex said:

Canada also seems to have great options. 

True. Just compare Seattle to Vancouver. The latter has a far better and better-looking selection.

[+ Pensant]

15 hours ago, EZEtoGRU said:

It was shocking to see how many unappealing guys are putting themselves out there as escorts.

I just saw a 47 yo escort ad where he markets himself as a twink!

[+ keroscenefire]

17 hours ago, EZEtoGRU said:

It's interesting you mention this.  After seeing the recent thread about Mintboy, I had a look at the selection for the Detroit area.  Yuck!!!  A large number of very average to unattractive guys I wouldn't be interested in even if they were for free.  It was shocking to see how many unappealing guys are putting themselves out there as escorts.

In my opinion, the problem isn't physical attractiveness. A lot of guys that I have hired are very sexy men. But they just don't really perform well. At this point, I'd take a 7 or 8 that can actually give me a good experience over a 9 or 10 that can't get hard and doesn't want to do anything. 

[MscleLovr]

10 minutes ago, keroscenefire said:

A lot of guys…are very sexy men. But…don't really perform well.

That’s why, once I’d found a nice muscleboy-bottom, I’d always prioritise the man who was ‘eager-to-please’. For me, that was the best indicator of good performance.

[marylander1940]

7 hours ago, Pensant said:

True. Just compare Seattle to Vancouver. The latter has a far better and better-looking selection.

In Vancour is also legal, that makes a hell of a difference! 

On 6/27/2023 at 2:10 AM, rvwnsd said:

I have not seen a decline in the quality of the escorts I hire nor in the quality of my experiences. What I have seen is a drastic increase in the number of guys who are escorting. As the population of escorts increases it is natural that the population of not-so-great escorts also increases. 

Exactly!

Plenty of newcomers and some of them don't like it or they are just trying and can't wait to get their onlyfans running and only use RM to promote their page. 

On 6/25/2023 at 7:22 PM, keroscenefire said:

Is it just me or has the quality of the escort experience declined recently? Maybe because I had such good luck with regulars previously, but it just seems like the guys I'm hiring recently are just not able to provide a great experience.

I feel like I am pretty laid back and tell them exactly what I am looking for in the texts. I am versatile and enjoy oral, body contact, jacking and cuddling. Massage skills a plus but not required. But it seems like every guy I meet has a hard time getting/staying hard and/or is not physically ready to bottom. I've not had this problem with escorts like even last year. Really this is within the last six months or so and is multiple guys. I'm reasonably attractive and always am down to give oral, put on porn and take breaks if needed to keep the action going. But increasingly it's like guys want to get hard, fuck for five minutes and if you want any longer that's too bad. A lot of them don't even seem to like to cuddle and hang after. One guy told me he doesn't like to get sweaty. 

Sorry if this is too complaining, but I am just curious if anyone else is feeling like hiring is more and more like paying $300 for a bad Grindr hookup.

I think you've been unlucky or as posted by others you've trying new guys who are not cutoff for the business. 

The same happened to @Gar1eth he constantly hired guys who weren't ready to bottom. I would say you keep douche at home and insist on the matter if you truly want versatility.

Providers have problems getting and keeping it hard? Viagra? Do you accurately describe yourself to them so they know if they need to take Viagra or not before meeting you? 

You'll find new regulars if that's what you're looking for, 

[marylander1940]

On 6/26/2023 at 2:24 AM, keroscenefire said:

Thanks for the encouragement. I have got way back. I used to be more like 1-2 times a month but I've only seen like 4 guys since January. All of them were kinda disappointing in some way. Just a lot of new guys in my market. I'm planning a trip soon so hopefully I'll get a good experience traveling. Maybe Denver just isn't bringing quality guys anymore. It's unfortunate because truly I had some great regulars (all who left the biz). 
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[EZEtoGRU]

7 hours ago, keroscenefire said:

 At this point, I'd take a 7 or 8 that can actually give me a good experience over a 9 or 10 that can't get hard and doesn't want to do anything. 

The challenge is that most of the guys I saw on Mintboys were 1 or 2 not 7 or 8.  No thanks.  I'll just jack-off.  I've never been one to compromise on quality.   I'd rather do without than be with someone I'm not attracted to.

[Luv2play]

9 hours ago, Pensant said:

True. Just compare Seattle to Vancouver. The latter has a far better and better-looking selection.

Decades ago they used to market a tea in Canada that was not available in other countries. At the end of the ad a lady with a very British accent would lament: "Only in Canada, you say. Pity."😀 

[+ keroscenefire]

9 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

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I'm considering Jack. Usually twink-types are not my type, but he's come so recommended that I might just do it. I saw Chris was in town and will actually reach out for this weekend. 

[+ keroscenefire]

9 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

 

Plenty of newcomers and some of them don't like it or they are just trying and can't wait to get their onlyfans running and only use RM to promote their page. 

I think you've been unlucky or as posted by others you've trying new guys who are not cutoff for the business. 

The same happened to @Gar1eth he constantly hired guys who weren't ready to bottom. I would say you keep douche at home and insist on the matter if you truly want versatility.

Providers have problems getting and keeping it hard? Viagra? Do you accurately describe yourself to them so they know if they need to take Viagra or not before meeting you? 

You'll find new regulars if that's what you're looking for, 

I always say exactly what I am looking for. I seek out other guys who say they are vers on ads because I really do like to flip and even say that's what I am looking for. I really do want a good regular. If I find one, I am a very consistent, generous and chill client. I had a great guy for about six months. We went on trips to the mountains together, watched plays, did multiple overnights. Unfortunately he moved and is no longer in the business. I do get that I was somewhat lucky with some previous regulars, but I'd settle for just a guy who can actually have consistent good sex.

I'm only 37 and I think I'm decent looking. I actually can/do have sex from the apps and through meeting guys at bars, etc. So when I hire, I really do want a great experience that I can't get from the apps. But lately it's just been very meh.

Thanks for the encouragement though. I guess I'll just keep trying.

 

[big-n-tall]

Since the pandemic began, the few new guys I've hired have been outstanding. I don't think the quality has declined. Or to be more specific, in my personal experience it has yet to materialize. I do think communication skills have declined by a lot. I have been getting less responses from initial inquiries.

[caramelsub]

I haven’t experienced any decline in escort quality. My city has very limited good quality local escorts though, but great visitors ever so often. I think a lot of clients have high expectations of seeking romantic or intimate connections, which some escorts cannot provide. For me I hire escorts for a one hour hookup, or erotic encounter nothing more. Otherwise it’s probably best to find a boyfriend if looking for intimacy/romance.

Edited June 30, 2023 by caramelsub