What typically happens in a four hands massage?

[Quartz]

I’m a bit of a newbie and have been seeing the term four hands thrown around a lot. I know that four hands means two masseurs, but I’m wondering why that’s more appealing than just one and what typically happens in a session?

Thanks a lot!

[jeezifonly]

If you are seeking a lot of skilled work in from two men, you’ll have to ask them questions about training etc, how long they’ve worked as a team. Many 4-handers are provided by one good masseur and a boyfriend who’s pretty new at it. I found the two asymmetric “flows” to be a distraction. My experience is that who’s into you and who’s not will be evident in short order. I imagine others here can provide you with more things to consider to get what you’re hoping for. 

[dbar123]

I've had a few of these in the past. In general there are two different styles. Style one is where the two providers work on either side in unison. As long as the providers are equally proficient, this can feel really good but if one is weaker than the other, it is a bit of a bummer.

The other style which I prefer is where one partner takes care of the lower half and the other takes care of the upper half. They may even switch from time to time. This gives you the opportunity to blow the provider while still getting massaged. If one person is less capable in massage, you won't notice it.

In general, unless they will be having a "3-way" with you at the end, a single masseur is a better use of your fuck dollar if you just want to have a decent massage.

[Jamie21]

I’ve done 4 hands for clients many times, even a couple of 6 hands. First thing to say is it’s expensive because you’ve hired two masseurs. 

I do it with a few other masseurs who I trust and who I like working with. It’s a better experience for the client if you work with someone you’re compatible with so if you’re a client booking a 4 hands choose a masseur you like and then ask him to pick the other guy (or masseuse depending on what you like!). 

I did a 2 hour 4 hands session recently for a guy. It was with a masseur I know (we have similar styles) and we worked head / feet ends and side by side at various times. Overall I think it worked fine and the client loved it but in general most 4 hands last an hour and progress quickly because the client tends to not want much massage. They want fun with two guys so it usually develops into more of an escort session very quickly. 

I’d recommend that better value for money is had by getting a 2 hand massage. There’s too much going on with a 4 hands, it’s difficult to relax into it and unless the 2 masseurs are super coordinated it can feel disjointed. 

I once did a 10 hands, not for a paying client - it was with friends. The guy on the table was anxious about it. I think my friend who had arranged it was keen to do it and had talked the body (the recipient) into it, but he found it difficult to lay there and get massaged by 5 guys. 

There simply wasn’t enough room around the table and everyone was doing different things in different ways. You couldn’t call it a massage, it was a group grope session. The poor guy couldn’t get hard and had to stop after half hour. He got dressed and left!

More hands definitely doesn’t make a better massage. I think the law of diminishing returns comes in after two hands. 

 

 

 

[Quartz]

Thanks everyone for taking the time to respond! Four hands doesn’t seem as appealing to me, based on your responses, so I’ll stick with two hands for now.

And @Jamie21, that 10 hands session sounds like quite a handful (ha)!

[dbar123]

22 hours ago, Quartz said:

Thanks everyone for taking the time to respond! Four hands doesn’t seem as appealing to me, based on your responses, so I’ll stick with two hands for now.

 

Realize that a 4 handed massage is as much "performance art" as it is "massage" and if you are in the mood for that, it may be worth the added cost. I once had a pair of massage guys screw each other during the massage so it was just as much interactive porn as it was massage. Another time, I had a pair of guys do something I'd never experienced- one was jerking me off while the other was beating a small hand drum- the beats got faster and faster in time as I came closer to climax.  It was highly erotic and VERY pleasurable. If your "team" is able to add some new twist to things, it can be great. Unfortunately most of the time, the 4 handed ones as not as imaginative.

[Jamie21]

11 hours ago, dbar123 said:

Realize that a 4 handed massage is as much "performance art" as it is "massage" and if you are in the mood for that, it may be worth the added cost. I once had a pair of massage guys screw each other during the massage so it was just as much interactive porn as it was massage. Another time, I had a pair of guys do something I'd never experienced- one was jerking me off while the other was beating a small hand drum- the beats got faster and faster in time as I came closer to climax.  It was highly erotic and VERY pleasurable. If your "team" is able to add some new twist to things, it can be great. Unfortunately most of the time, the 4 handed ones as not as imaginative.

Yes this is exactly right. If it’s a 4 hands you need some kind of extra because it’s not so easy to relax into a 4 hands massage; there’s too much going on. 

I’ve done 4 hands where the client wanted us (the masseurs) to interact with each other and have sex with each other for the client to watch. It worked well although I really don’t think you could call it massage. It starts like a massage but develops into an escort session. 

Another thing I’ve done in 4 hands to make it ‘different’ is an undressing ritual at the start. We blindfold the client and undress him slowly before leading him to the table. It’s a nice way to start. 
 

 

[pubic_assistance]

On 2/16/2023 at 8:59 PM, Quartz said:

I'm wondering why that’s more appealing than just one and what typically happens in a session?

In my experience, four hands is always disappointing because it's rarely offered by anyone who especially skilled at massage. Apologies to @Jamie21 Perhaps he is the exception to this rule.

Best coordinated purely as a prelude to a hot three-way  with one fellow face fucking your mouth while the other has his way with your asshole.

[Luv2play]

I've had several 4 handed massages but the only memorable one was with escorts who were partners at the time and incorporated erotic massage in their routine. 

I had seen one of them several times for overnights so we got along well as he knew my kinks and preferences. 

They came to my home with a professional table which they set up in the kitchen where there was lots of space. They started wirh a nice massage and since we had scheduled. 2 hours took their time relaxing me. 

It then segued more into an escort session with me blowing each while still on the table. We also engaged in some watersports. 

For the second hour we retired to my bedroom and engaged in full fucking. It was wonderful.

[newdad]

21 hours ago, dbar123 said:

Another time, I had a pair of guys do something I'd never experienced- one was jerking me off while the other was beating a small hand drum- the beats got faster and faster in time as I came closer to climax.

What was the tune he was beating the drum to? Couldn't help but think of "The little drummer boy" xmas song. (Para-pum-pum-pum)

 

[Becket]

What typically happens for me is that I get distracted.  I'm concentrating on the back, then on my legs. Back guy moves to fast; leg guy too slow.  I spend all my time critiquing. Gonna stick with one talented guy at a time.

[Simon Suraci]

I agree with most responses. I don’t particularly value a 4-hand massage for myself. It’s not worth the money. It can be distracting or less relaxing at best. I have a hard enough time not criticizing in my head during a 2-hand massage, much less a 4-hand.

My clients, on the other hand, love it. Some say they enjoy an asymmetrical approach because they like not knowing what is going to happen next, and enjoy the feeling of simultaneous differing sensations and muscle manipulation along different parts of the body. You get twice the work done.

To each their own. Every client is different. I recommend masseurs work together with people they know and trust for 4-hand sessions. Does not have to be a partner or lover. Even better when your styles are similar and you talk about how to coordinate the work beforehand. Styles can be different and still successful as long as you coordinate who does what when and make sure it makes sense.

[Luvtalls]

I had one a few years back, both were very hot and in a relationship. I kind of felt like I was going through a car wash with both of them working on me at the same time. There was no sense of intimacy, maybe because they were more into each other than me. Probably won’t try it again.

[Jamie21]

37 minutes ago, Luvtalls said:

I had one a few years back, both were very hot and in a relationship. I kind of felt like I was going through a car wash with both of them working on me at the same time. There was no sense of intimacy, maybe because they were more into each other than me. Probably won’t try it again.

So true. Not much massage happens. I did one with another masseur friend who I’m very much into (and he’s into me). We more or less had sex with each other while the client lay there sensing it all going on around above and on him. It wasn’t a massage. He liked it but there’s no way you could call it a 4 hands. 

[KrisParr]

I had a regular masseur for about a year. Not terribly attractive but great hands and an amazing HE technique. One time he told me about a new client who’d just left. He said the guy was handsome AF and very well-built. He couldn’t stop raving about his looks. It wasn’t at all professional of either of us, but I booked my next appointment just before the “new” guy’s next so I might by chance catch a glimpse. Oh hell, yeah. So the masseur called him and told him he had a client (me) who was interested in learning to give massage and would he be interested in a free session as long as I could join in and watch/participate. The guy said sure, sounded like fun. We set up a mutual time and I played the part to the hilt - white running shorts and a t-shirt. The guy looked like a model with just the right muscle/swimmer build. I was salivating. The massage began and “John” deserved an award by describing all the strokes, and the muscle groups, etc. just like a massage school lesson. It was hella fun. Of course it morphed into a full-on erotic event and I lost track of who was doing what with who. The client was well-satisfied, and we did two more sessions. The client paid the basic rate and I more than compensated “John” for the experience. I would love to try it again some time.

[Bargara Leatherboy]

I have had some 4 handed massages, most are not worth the $$ but there have been a few that are notable. If the two masseurs are in sync with the right amount of pressure and have the same style its awesome, imagine both legs being worked at once, particulary those long sensual strokes from butt to feet - or feet to butt - they feel fantastic - but those when you hears the whispered directions from one to the other - not so good 

[pubic_assistance]

I tried a four hands with two attractive Russian muscle guys. The massage was just ok but when one of them shoved his hard dick into my face to suck him off while the other rimmed my ass the session eneded better than expected. 🎉

Obviously your own experiences will vary.

[Logitcore]

Sorry for not being on topic - but I love eastern European muscle guys. @pubic_assistance can I DM you for details please?

[pubic_assistance]

10 minutes ago, Logitcore said:

Sorry for not being on topic - but I love eastern European muscle guys. @pubic_assistance can I DM you for details please?

Long time ago. No idea where to find them now.

[Jamie21]

On 3/8/2023 at 8:03 AM, Bargara Leatherboy said:

but those when you hears the whispered directions from one to the other - not so good 

Ha ha yes that’s not good. I did a 4 hands one time with another masseur who I’d not previously worked with. My style is quite intuitive and I prefer not to work to a strict plan, which is quite difficult when you’re doing a 4 hands and you need to coordinate with the other masseur.

This guy I was working with suggested I turn up at his studio (because the client was his client) half hour before the session so we could plan it. I agreed to that although half hour seemed a bit excessive.

When I got there he gave me a plan with the whole 90 minute session worked out down to the minute. As in Jamie - left leg 3 minutes etc. He had planned the whole time out in blocks showing who would massage what part and when. Then he showed me his iPad set up in the room so we could see the time. On the iPad he had each section counting down…so I could see I had for example 45 seconds remaining to finish ‘left leg’ before I was due to start right arm for 2 minutes. Thoughtfully he’d allowed 4 minutes for cock work…that was 2 minutes each. 

I said to him was it necessary to be so prescriptive with the timing and division of work and he looked at me as if I’d asked to suck his boyfriend off while we waited (actually his bf was hot, and was working downstairs). So I just went with the plan…

It turned out ok, the client was one of those who doesn’t go ‘off piste’ and starts to suck you after 5 minutes. He just enjoyed receiving and seemed to be happy but I found it exhausting to stick to the plan. I could see the client liked having his feet massaged so I’d normally have spent longer there but since only 1 minute of foot massage was allowed then I had to stop after 1 minute on his left foot because my partner had stopped on the right foot.

I did throw in a couple of unscheduled moves just to keep things interesting but it seemed to throw my massage partner off so I wasn’t able to go completely off script.

Oh and yes, the client shot his load just before the 4 minutes on cock were up.  Not sure what would have happened if the 4 minute deadline had passed and he hadn’t reached climax. 
 

 

[Simon Suraci]

20 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

Ha ha yes that’s not good. I did a 4 hands one time with another masseur who I’d not previously worked with. My style is quite intuitive and I prefer not to work to a strict plan, which is quite difficult when you’re doing a 4 hands and you need to coordinate with the other masseur.

This guy I was working with suggested I turn up at his studio (because the client was his client) half hour before the session so we could plan it. I agreed to that although half hour seemed a bit excessive.

When I got there he gave me a plan with the whole 90 minute session worked out down to the minute. As in Jamie - left leg 3 minutes etc. He had planned the whole time out in blocks showing who would massage what part and when. Then he showed me his iPad set up in the room so we could see the time. On the iPad he had each section counting down…so I could see I had for example 45 seconds remaining to finish ‘left leg’ before I was due to start right arm for 2 minutes. Thoughtfully he’d allowed 4 minutes for cock work…that was 2 minutes each. 

I said to him was it necessary to be so prescriptive with the timing and division of work and he looked at me as if I’d asked to suck his boyfriend off while we waited (actually his bf was hot, and was working downstairs). So I just went with the plan…

It turned out ok, the client was one of those who doesn’t go ‘off piste’ and starts to suck you after 5 minutes. He just enjoyed receiving and seemed to be happy but I found it exhausting to stick to the plan. I could see the client liked having his feet massaged so I’d normally have spent longer there but since only 1 minute of foot massage was allowed then I had to stop after 1 minute on his left foot because my partner had stopped on the right foot.

I did throw in a couple of unscheduled moves just to keep things interesting but it seemed to throw my massage partner off so I wasn’t able to go completely off script.

Oh and yes, the client shot his load just before the 4 minutes on cock were up.  Not sure what would have happened if the 4 minute deadline had passed and he hadn’t reached climax. 
 

 

Oh wow, that does sound exhausting. I agree massage is intuitive and every client is different. You need flexibility to adjust the time as needs arise. For example, a sore muscle the client didn’t mention or didn’t know they needed the work there until you started working in an area. 

When working with a new collaborator, I like to go over briefly what we’re doing about 10-15 mins before the client arrives. It’s more general, however, than down to the minute directions. A countdown clock would be unnerving and unnecessary. As long as we have an understanding of who is doing what, for approximately how long, discuss pressure and style, we’re good.

We both pay attention to one another and signal with eye contact, face, even pointing sometimes if there needs to be something different happening, when to switch, move on, slow down, wrap it up, etc. No verbal communication so the client is not distracted. If it’s my client, I generally lead. If it’s their client, I generally follow.

When working with a regular collaborator, it’s more realistic to synchronize strokes and timing to give the client a parallel massage experience. That works best when the client wants a massage for relaxation moreso than deep therapeutic sports work or something like that. I can’t exactly do deep therapeutic work in tandem, at least not very successfully or easily.

[TectonicThrust]

I’ve had two 4-hand massages in the LA area. Both very erotic but each different. In the first, the two guys were total eye candy and the HE was thrilling as all 4-hands worked together to maximize results. But the massage itself was uneven and repetitive. They each stayed to their respective side (left/right or top/bottom) without creating a sense of unison. (I still loved the experience.) The other duo was much more in sync. At the beginning they coordinated all four hands in a rhythmic massage of my back.  Couldn’t tell which one was which. It was like a waterfall of hands stroking the length of my torso. It really set the mood. They had their own unique way of finishing me off that was also thrilling and more interactive. In neither massage were any ground rules established up front, so I had only hopes but no expectations. MT developed naturally and I simply asked every now and then if something else would be ok and both pairs went with it. In both massages, neither pair ever spoke to each other. I was really impressed how they had their respective routines down. I think it’s key to have two masseurs who’ve worked together a lot. Reviews can give you a sense if that’s the case.

[Guest]

Did that masseur have blue skin, by any chance?

Edited March 14, 2023 by Unicorn