Providers that aren't into kissing nor giving oral

[socurious]

Do you guys think we providers should tell the client directly that we don't kiss or the "not listed" thing on RM is just enough for them to know? I always try to encourage my clients to ask anything before we meet.

[Jamie21]

I love kissing, and an happy to do it with clients but I agree, many clients don’t want that level of intimacy. They’ll be fine to do everything else but kissing is seen as indicative of some kind of emotional attachment, especially with straight clients. 

If a provider really doesn’t want to kiss ever then I think he should say so in his adverts. If kissing is conditional then that should be discussed with clients if they specifically ask about it. 

However, the most important thing is that if you’re going to kiss…you MUST kiss properly. Kissing is a skill, it’s so much better with a good kisser. 

 

[Your Man in Arlington]

36 minutes ago, socurious said:

Do you guys think we providers should tell the client directly that we don't kiss or the "not listed" thing on RM is just enough for them to know? I always try to encourage my clients to ask anything before we meet.

From what I understand, some potential clients don't even read profiles in detail, so it may not matter whether you omit it from the list of what you do or explicitly state so in your profile text.

Either way, I think it would be helpful for both you and potential clients to confirm you don't kiss in your first reply to an initial inquiry.

[Hot4latin]

During one of my first massages, as things were moving from therapeutic to sensual, my provider whispered in my ear “is it ok if I kiss you?”.  That simple moment of intimacy was the perfect way of broaching the subject without it feeling like a menu item. 

[+ Axiom2001]

On 1/9/2023 at 7:22 AM, cany10011 said:

I would not consider hiring anyone who does not provide oral (mutual, giving and receiving) nor kiss.  Was recently chatting with a cute RM in NYC who only topped, but would not kiss nor do oral. I guess they exist for some clients, but not for me. I prefer a more interactive experience. 

I, too, most definitely "prefer a more interactive experience."  To date when I'm interested in a particular escort, I peruse his "I Am Into's" in his ad.  If his interests are not similar to mine, I pass and go elsewhere.

[+ Axiom2001]

On 10/24/2023 at 4:37 PM, DrownedBoy said:

Hey, I've come across Grindr guys who say they're into kissing, and won't.

It's more annoying on RM. Next time a guy who lists kissing won't, I should start subtracting stars.

Or telling him that the session has to end and pay him 1/2 his fee or NOTHING!!

[+ Axiom2001]

On 10/26/2023 at 10:08 AM, Vegas_Millennial said:

For me it's the opposite.  Making out is fine for me, but I get a sore throat when I deep throat someone.    That's why I try to move from making out to anal with only a little oral if they are big.

 

When I was with a guy in Rio de Janeiro, he gave me the best throat fucking that I'd ever received

.  Unfortunately, his expertise left my throat sore for a week and caused me not to engage the services of anyone from that point until I returned to the States and to California.  In my looking back and reflecting, he really knew how to please but not thinking about the after effects that he'd leave on the "receiver."

[Hot4latin]

48 minutes ago, Axiom2001 said:

When I was with a guy in Rio de Janeiro, he gave me the best throat fucking that I'd ever received

.  Unfortunately, his expertise left my throat sore for a week and caused me not to engage the services of anyone from that point until I returned to the States and to California.  In my looking back and reflecting, he really knew how to please but not thinking about the after effects that he'd leave on the "receiver."

 

you got a number for me? 🤣

Edited November 8, 2023 by Hot4latin

[+ JamesB]

2 hours ago, socurious said:

Do you guys think we providers should tell the client directly that we don't kiss or the "not listed" thing on RM is just enough for them to know? I always try to encourage my clients to ask anything before we meet.

If not listed I assume you are not willing to do it. If it is listed and it is important to me, I will confirm that you are willing to do it before booking.

[Danny-Darko]

4 hours ago, socurious said:

Do you guys think we providers should tell the client directly that we don't kiss or the "not listed" thing on RM is just enough for them to know? I always try to encourage my clients to ask anything before we meet.

I've seen plenty of RM ads that state they don't kiss or they are "selective" of whom they kiss. Others say no anal or bottoming. I've seen ads with all kinds of limitations, and I respect that in an escort and appreciate the fact that they are upfront about it, and I don't have to discoverer it once we're in a session. If I don't like what I read or see, I don't hire! 

Edited November 9, 2023 by Danny-Darko

[Your Man in Arlington]

3 hours ago, JamesB said:

If not listed I assume you are not willing to do it. If it is listed and it is important to me, I will confirm that you are willing to do it before booking.

If I see and ad which lists BFE as a service, but has no "I am into" section, I will still inquire and see if our preferred activities match.

I will even still inquire about kissing if some lists BFE as a service, but has an I am into section that leaves out certain particulars (like kissing) since it could be an oversight. I mean, how could BFE not include kissing? 🤷‍♂️

Edited November 9, 2023 by Your Man in Arlington

[Danny-Darko]

16 minutes ago, Your Man in Arlington said:

If I see and ad which lists BFE as a service, but has no "I am into" section, I will still inquire and see if our preferred activities match.

I will even still inquire about kissing if some lists BFE as a service, but has an I am into section that leaves certain particulars (like kissing) since it could be an oversight. I mean, how could BFE not include kissing? 🤷‍♂️

True. Good to always ask and confirm, because many advertisers on RM just check all the boxes to up the odds and some frankly don't even know what many of them are especially if they're from other countries. Some think that putting "Native American" means they are from the USA or live here now! 😄 

[+ JamesB]

1 hour ago, Your Man in Arlington said:

If I see and ad which lists BFE as a service, but has no "I am into" section, I will still inquire and see if our preferred activities match.

I will even still inquire about kissing if some lists BFE as a service, but has an I am into section that leaves out certain particulars (like kissing) since it could be an oversight. I mean, how could BFE not include kissing? 🤷‍♂️

I agree 100%. Communication is key when hiring. I always like to confirm that the provider is willing to do all that is important to me. I think most providers are happy to answer these types of questions and if one is not, then he may not be the right one to hire.

[pubic_assistance]

6 hours ago, Hot4latin said:

During one of my first massages, as things were moving from therapeutic to sensual, my provider whispered in my ear “is it ok if I kiss you?”. 

I would have immediately lost my hard-on.

[+ DrownedBoy]

22 hours ago, JamesB said:

I agree 100%. Communication is key when hiring. I always like to confirm that the provider is willing to do all that is important to me. I think most providers are happy to answer these types of questions and if one is not, then he may not be the right one to hire.

I've had providers who listed "Kissing" on their ad. When I contacted them, they said they kissed with their tongue. When we met, they wouldn't.

One kid that happened with, he told me that he "only kisses on a second hire." Cute, but that ensured that I'll never feel his lips.

[Danny-Darko]

22 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said:

I've had providers who listed "Kissing" on their ad. When I contacted them, they said they kissed with their tongue. When we met, they wouldn't.

One kid that happened with, he told me that he "only kisses on a second hire." Cute, but that ensured that I'll never feel his lips.

Yes, some providers do that with all sorts of things and services they claim to offer. And they often times lie even though we confirm that "yes they will do xyz..."! When that has happened to me, I remind them of our conversation and that I was upfront about my requests, and I had trusted they were as well! Then I simply cut my losses and try to enjoy what I can from the session, and I don't ever hire them again. We live and learn, but I make a point of them learning something as well, for what it may be worth if anything! Unfortunately, we live in a time where hustlers and scam artist conduct business on the same platforms and venues as Gentlemen Escorts and Courtesan do.  And if they ever hit me up for a repeat as some providers do via text, email or even in person on the street or in a club, I remind them that they didn't live up to their end of the bargain therefore there won't ever be a repeat between us no matter what they promise me now. Not even for a "dance" at a strip club! People know damn well what they are doing, and as with any other business practice I don't give my business to people who can't keep their word or mislead the client. If somebody can't conduct business in an ethical and gentlemanly manner, they don't get my patronage or money. There are others who do and will! And once again we thank forums like this that HooBoy started oh so many years ago so we can discuss these things and discuss the behavior and services of escorts.  

[alrajee]

That’ll be a dud of a session for me. I also probably would not have hired him in the first place since I make it clear when initiating contact that I require kissing and oral.

Sidebar: I have hired one guy who had limits: Only kissing and mutual masturbation. He was smoking hot though and I was thinking with my small head so I agreed.

Holy moly he made up for the no-oral, no-anal thing with how good he kissed.

I hired him a second time after a month, and although the makeout session was still great, I knew that we reached the ceiling there.

Edited November 10, 2023 by alrajee

[silken_mist]

I definitely need Oral... I'm not getting all dolled up for nothing... 

[marylander1940]

21 hours ago, socurious said:

Well, not only straight providers don't kiss.

My clients usually don't ask for kissing. But that's because they figure out from my profile. 

I guarantee you that most clients want to be kissed even if they don't ask precisely for the BFE. 

Edited April 19 by marylander1940
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[marylander1940]

On 11/8/2023 at 4:10 PM, Hot4latin said:

During one of my first massages, as things were moving from therapeutic to sensual, my provider whispered in my ear “is it ok if I kiss you?”.  That simple moment of intimacy was the perfect way of broaching the subject without it feeling like a menu item. 

 

On 11/8/2023 at 10:15 PM, pubic_assistance said:

I would have immediately lost my hard-on.

I would have said... work it and massage me... for kissing I hire escorts. 

[pubic_assistance]

On 4/18/2024 at 12:25 PM, marylander1940 said:

I guarantee you that most clients want to be kissed

I think I'd be interested in taking a poll on that one.

Certainly single people who are lonely, would be looking for that intimacy.

But many of us are already married and/or in relationships and are just looking for some hot🔥hot SEX.

I'd have guessed it's more of a 50/50 split. NONE of MY straight friends EVER look for.romance with a female escort....so I'm assuming married gay men are much the same.

[Jamie21]

It’s mixed. I’d say most of my clients don’t want kissing (but they want to be rimmed lol…). Kissing is very intimate and for guys who aren’t ready or able to describe themselves as gay, or for those who are in relationships etc then kissing is a step too far. Others most definitely want to kiss. You can rarely tell and it’s not something that I’d ask before the session. However during the session I’ll perhaps kiss his neck, near his ear or somewhere and see what he does. If he turns his head away then I know kissing is probably not his thing but if he turns towards me then it’s a sign he might want to kiss. Occasionally I’ll ask by whispering in his ear “would you like to kiss” and that’s enough for him to take the opportunity or not depending on his preference. 

[marylander1940]

2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

I think I'd be interested in taking a poll on that one.

Certainly single people who are lonely, would be looking for that intimacy.

But many of us are already married and/or in relationships and are just looking for some hot🔥hot SEX.

I'd have guessed it's more of a 50/50 split. NONE of MY straight friends EVER look for.romance with a female escort....so I'm assuming married gay men are much the same.

Let's do it! 

[Your Man in Arlington]

2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

But many of us are already married and/or in relationships and are just looking for some hot🔥hot SEX.

I'm married, but for me kissing is still a part of  hot🔥hot sex.

[ShortCutie7]

Since my menu of options is relatively limited as I am scared of STIs and find bottoming painful, kissing is VERY important to me… and not just on the lips, but all over.  I can’t imagine enjoying and paying for a hookup without at least some kissing.  I was actually surprised that on my (only thusfar) encounter with a provider, he kissed passionately but did not initiate oral.