Requested Fees for Escorts in 2022

[ChasingGirth]

I refuse to pay more than 300 with rare exceptions. I never try to negotiate. I only ask if they offer a better rate for multiple hours and usually they do. 1 hour to me is just too short to get comfortable and the same for the escort. 

[+ DrownedBoy]

13 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

I own a business too.

Inflation for 2022 alone has been a steady 8 to 9 percent.

My costs compared to pre-Covid years are up more than 20% in many cases.

Your cumulative is off.  I just looked it up myself. It's a little over 18% from beginning of 2019 to the end of 2022.

I've calculated my inflation losses at a little above 16% from 2019 to today.

I have a very long standing and trusted regular, and I unilaterally gave him a "raise" because he buys gas for his own car. It's still a good deal.

However, for everyone else (except for professional bodybuilders), I stick to my 300/500 limit. I've noticed that standard recurring theme - young escorts with no experience asking waaay too much.

I know all prices have gone up, but my salary hasn't changed. That shrinks my demand for hiring. Plus, it seems that many newbies are coming into the market (albeit with a lot to learn) due to the coming recession. That increases the supply.

Unfortunately, economics doesn't care if prices go up or if people are struggling. It's just supply and demand. And the first rule of life is to take care of you and yours first.

[+ jeezopete]

3 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said:

I've noticed that standard recurring theme - young escorts with no experience asking waaay too much.

I've seen that too. Almost every time, when they've quoted anything from $350-600 for an hour I usually say something like, "Thanks for the quick response. That's not the price range I'm looking for right now though. Maybe some other time." and I get a message back along the lines of, "What's your price range? I'm flexible." Not always, but quite often.

[+ DrownedBoy]

5 minutes ago, jeezopete said:

I've seen that too. Almost every time, when they've quoted anything from $350-600 for an hour I usually say something like, "Thanks for the quick response. That's not the price range I'm looking for right now though. Maybe some other time." and I get a message back along the lines of, "What's your price range? I'm flexible." Not always, but quite often.

Quick response?

That's a lot more than I usually get. 😁

[Luv2play]

8 hours ago, Enronnja said:

I am planning a trip to NYC or Montreal next summer and hope to have some fun, but I can’t go over 300. If they are asking above that, its just my loss. 

You can still get someone decent below $300 but not by much in my opinion. I've hired at $250 to $275 with nice results. Mind you I prefer somewhat longer so often negotiate 2 hours for $400. And they haven't been clockwatchers in most cases.

[Enronnja]

8 hours ago, arnemgreeves said:

Prices in my country have really changed in many years. I saw my first escort in 2002 and the prices then were the equivalent of $100-250 per hour. Evee we n during COVID people were still charging similar rates. 

The unfortunate side effect is, just like every other business, even when inflation goes down, providers won’t bring down their prices. Wages are not rising at the same time, which makes me wonder, how sustainable will it be for them in the long run? Then again, most of them seem to be doing just fine thanks to OnlyFans and likely Sugar Daddy keeping them on retainer. I also notice a lot are going mainstream creating more YouTube shorts videos and semi-PG friendly content, not to mention Instagram and TikTok. That Gaybaiting video with 250k views is generating money, if it wasn’t, so many wouldn’t be doing it. 

[DistrictofColumbia1975]

I had a provider i wanted to book who was more of a bottom & he quoted me $100 more than his normal rate for him to top, anyone else encountered this?

[+ WestGuy]

5 hours ago, DistrictofColumbia1975 said:

I had a provider i wanted to book who was more of a bottom & he quoted me $100 more than his normal rate for him to top, anyone else encountered this?

Yes. A guy recently quoted me a higher price for bottoming but it was more modest than than the $100 you were quoted.  

[Cliff]

In NYC I have not seen or been aware of any provider that charges less than $300, which appears to be the going rate. I’ve seen several providers in NYC that charge $350, and two that charge $400. One of them was worth every penny of that $400, and the other was simply a lesson learned that just because a provider charges a lot doesn’t necessarily mean he’s “worth it.” My two cents. 

Edited December 6, 2022 by Cliff

[+ Lucky]

In order to stimulate the economy, I have decreed that all providers reduce their rates by 20% for the next six months.

[dcman]

In the DC,MD,VA area the going rate for good quality seems to be $300/hr and most guys who are successful $500 for a 2 hour session.

[pubic_assistance]

10 hours ago, Enronnja said:

The unfortunate side effect is, just like every other business, even when inflation goes down, providers won’t bring down their prices.

Because that's not how inflation works.

"When inflation goes down" means the RATE OF INCREASE reduces.  Prices never go back to where they were. SHORTAGES cause temporary spikes in prices during an inflationary period, but the current inflation is partially due to a collapse in the dollar.  It's like saying, I remember when a cup of coffee was 25cents, gee I wish we could go back to those times. YOU CAN'T. Once the dollar value crashes, the market adjusts to the new value and that sticks ( with only minor adjustments for supply chain issues ).

[DistrictofColumbia1975]

3 hours ago, WestGuy said:

Yes. A guy recently quoted me a higher price for bottoming but it was more modest than than the $100 you were quoted.  

What I meant to say, was he charges more to top, He’s a vers bottom & he was kind of shocked that I even asked him to top, he wanted $400 to top me when his normal rate is $300

[+ KensingtonHomo]

39 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

"When inflation goes down" means the RATE OF INCREASE reduces.  Prices never go back to where they were. SHORTAGES cause temporary spikes in prices during an inflationary period, but the current inflation is partially due to a collapse in the dollar.  It's like saying, I remember when a cup of coffee was 25cents, gee I wish we could go back to those times. YOU CAN'T. Once the dollar value crashes, the market adjusts to the new value and that sticks ( with only minor adjustments for supply chain issues ).

This may be true when it comes to normal inflation, but the current inflation is due in part to supply chain issues due to the pandemic, but it's mostly being just driven by corporate greed. The Fed raised interest rates to discipline labor, just as the Biden administration and Congress stepped in to discipline the railroad workers. Neither of these steps is sustainable as people will respond to government-imposed immiseration by electing fascists in 2024 or civil unrest. 

[+ keroscenefire]

31 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Because that's not how inflation works.

"When inflation goes down" means the RATE OF INCREASE reduces.  Prices never go back to where they were. SHORTAGES cause temporary spikes in prices during an inflationary period, but the current inflation is partially due to a collapse in the dollar.  It's like saying, I remember when a cup of coffee was 25cents, gee I wish we could go back to those times. YOU CAN'T. Once the dollar value crashes, the market adjusts to the new value and that sticks ( with only minor adjustments for supply chain issues ).

You're getting a bit too much into politics IMO.

And this isn't actually that accurate. Econ 101 tells us basically that in a healthy economy, there is usually inflation of about 2-3 percent per year. But it's almost always the case that prices of some things go up and some things go down.

For example, new technology products become cheaper after several years. The price of Smart TVs 5-6 years ago was often $5000+ but now you can find many under $1000. And the prices of many things can be very variable based on supply and demand Food, gasoline, travel, etc. Even within the course of a year, prices can vary quite a lot.  

But we're talking about escorts here, and escorts are a service industry. Since wages/costs are one of the big components of inflation, of course service industries tend to be more sensitive to inflation. I've noticed this in other service industries as well. A few years ago I could find a decent haircut under $30 but that's pretty much impossible now. Because of the general increase in inflation and wages, I think the $300 an hour is here to stay unless something goes pretty crazy with the economy.

[pubic_assistance]

18 minutes ago, keroscenefire said:

You're getting a bit too much into politics IMO.

I disagree with that statement.

I made a VERY specific effort to stick to economic issues and NOT blame the current situation on any political influence.

I've been spanked multiple times for discussing politics outside the appropriate forum, so I am being very careful to avoid getting my GO TO JAIL card pulled again.

In response to your economics 101 statement ...yes prices do sometimes go down. I made that point myself. It's a supply chain matter. Shortages cause prices to go up, and slowing demand can make them go down. Agreed.

But regarding the service industry, there is no "product", so these rules only apply to their living expenses. In NY rents are up 20% to 25% in Manhattan, parts of Brooklyn and Queens. Food prices are shockingly inflated. I went to pick up a Thanksgiving Turkey at a local gourmet supermarket and they were all tagged $75 to $ 85 !!!  So any provider NEEDS to charge more just to remain in the same place in meeting his expenses. Those expenses like an overpriced turkey are supply side issues. Ridiculously high rent is a dollar collapse issue. ( Which is great for me, since I'm a landlord )...so I can pay more because I am now making more.

Like I said...I remember when I could get lunch for $ 5 ...but those $ 5 were more dear back then.

Edited December 5, 2022 by pubic_assistance

[Luv2play]

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

Because that's not how inflation works.

"When inflation goes down" means the RATE OF INCREASE reduces.  Prices never go back to where they were. SHORTAGES cause temporary spikes in prices during an inflationary period, but the current inflation is partially due to a collapse in the dollar.  It's like saying, I remember when a cup of coffee was 25cents, gee I wish we could go back to those times. YOU CAN'T. Once the dollar value crashes, the market adjusts to the new value and that sticks ( with only minor adjustments for supply chain issues ).

What collapse in the dollar are you talking about. It has risen against most currencies in the last year, including the Cdn$. The British pound collapsed against the dollar two months ago with the new British PM, Liz Truss and also the euro went down.

Inflation in Canada is bad and the increase in the cost of US imports is one reason. The Americans have it the other way. The strength of their dollar is hurting their exports but not causing imported inflation.

Only very recently has the dollar started to lose strength against the pound and the euro. Not so much our dollar.

Edited December 5, 2022 by Luv2play

[pubic_assistance]

19 minutes ago, Luv2play said:

British pound collapsed against the dollar two months ago

The British pound going DOWN doesn't make the dollar's buying power go UP domestically.

Maybe you will better understand it THIS way: The housing market.

There is no shortage of homes for sale. Mortgage rates are high and so there is plenty of inventory with no takers.

Yet, prices are significantly higher than they were three years ago. ( Except in depressed, drug infested areas obviously ).

Edited December 5, 2022 by pubic_assistance

[Cliff]

C’mon, guys! How did we go from talking about sextastically hot escorts who currently charge a rate that is “acceptable” or “unacceptable” to ever-changing economic timetables, presidential administrations, and the ins and outs of the gross national product? 

[MikeBiDude]

Moderator note: @Cliff is correct, let’s get this topic back on track “Requested Fees for Escorts in 2022”

[pubic_assistance]

2 hours ago, MikeBiDude said:

Moderator note: @Cliff is correct, let’s get this topic back on track “Requested Fees for Escorts in 2022”

BACK ON TRACK:
I don't hire escorts often, but I like to browse and will occasionally hire when I'm traveling and there's a limited choice in pro masseurs. That said....I never seen anyone on rent.men worth meeting for less than $ 300.  The last pro I teamed up with was $300 + $60 for the use of a space. I rounded up to $400 and added $50 on top of that for an extremely good time.  I was actually home in New York, and he was a unique opportunity with special skills. I happily repeated at those rates last week because the $300 base seems absolutely normal now, here in New York.

[Luv2play]

I hire escorts a lot so know the market very well. Of course it's in Canada so local conditions may vary somewhat from the US, particularly smaller US cities.  But not it's in the two largest cities, Montreal and Toronto, which have very large escort markets serviced by RM, similar to larger US cities lije Chicago, Boston, Miami, SanFrancisco. NyC is in a class of its own with hundreds of escorts.

I know the going rates and what they will purchase. $300 is absolutely the benchmark these days. Some providers will shave off a few dollars and some add a few. Their services differ somewhat so you need to find those that will agree to what you like to do. It's really quite predictable and satisfying I find. Very few unpleasant surprises.

[pubic_assistance]

18 minutes ago, Luv2play said:

Montreal and Toronto, which have very large escort markets serviced by RM, similar to larger US cities lije Chicago, Boston, Miami, SanFrancisco. NyC is in a class of its own with hundreds of escorts.

I have a couple gay friends who head up to Montreal frequently for the "entertainment". So I am assuming if $ 300 is the benchmark up there, the pricing is significantly higher on our end, or they wouldn't be making the trip. Given the "hundreds of escorts" they could have met right at home.

[Luv2play]

Well there is the exchange rate to consider. But also many Americans come for the stripper bars, not the escorts. 

And Montreal has many other charms that attract visitors such as great restaurants, lots of cultural attractions, a beautiful city for architectire, fashion and joie de vivre and old quaint districts (think of New Orleans on steroids) and the gallic charm of a French speaking metropolis. All within a few hours travel time.

[Medin]

On 12/4/2022 at 12:21 PM, pubic_assistance said:

A quick search in most places shows 18% . Correct.  11% cumulative is ridiculous. It was nearly 9% for part of 2022 alone .

It seems you guys are using CPI and not the labor inflation rate.  I've yet to find a company that will accept CPI during contract negotiations.  I'd have to look it up but I think the real labor rate increase in the past 12 months is closer to 5%.