Requested Fees for Escorts in 2022

[Medin]

59 minutes ago, Luv2play said:

I hire escorts a lot so know the market very well. Of course it's in Canada so local conditions may vary somewhat from the US, particularly smaller US cities.  But not it's in the two largest cities, Montreal and Toronto, which have very large escort markets serviced by RM, similar to larger US cities lije Chicago, Boston, Miami, SanFrancisco. NyC is in a class of its own with hundreds of escorts.

I know the going rates and what they will purchase. $300 is absolutely the benchmark these days. Some providers will shave off a few dollars and some add a few. Their services differ somewhat so you need to find those that will agree to what you like to do. It's really quite predictable and satisfying I find. Very few unpleasant surprises.

Even at C$300, it's only US$220 right now so quite a bit cheaper.  

[Ali Gator]

Two things I really don't understand...

I can understand a traveling escort charging a premium in such big cities as NY, Chicago, and Boston. After all, their expenses are quite higher in such cities - hotel, food, gas, etc. The clientele also has a higher income than those in other cities. Understood. 

 

So if a NY escort will be visiting Boston and charging their $300 rate and makes a two night stop in my small city of Providence on their way to Boston, why are they still charging $300 in my city? Their expenses are much lower than NY and Boston (they have told me this more than once in conversation) - from hotels and food to gas to fill up their cars. Their clientele is getting paid much lower than the clientele in the bigger cities. SO they should be knocking off $50-$100 in a smaller city to meet the market in that area. (I've had this conversation with many escorts at the end of a session - and after I paid them - just so they know why they didn't book many appointments).  Just a thought...

 

Also -  I have met up with many escorts who advertise a % off for new clients in their profiles. For example:  "15% off for new clients the week of December 5" and it just so happens they are traveling that week in my area and other cities that whole week.  When I mention the 15% off when it's time to pay (on $300 that's $45) they look at me shocked. I show them the ad - they think for  a moment, and then say "That's not in effect when I'm traveling". I then point out the promotion is for this whole week - and they are traveling this whole week. So which clients benefit from it ?  They don't knock off the $45 and change the subject.  Sorry - not good business. 

[Marc in Calif]

40 minutes ago, Ali Gator said:

I have met up with many escorts who advertise a % off for new clients in their profiles.... When I mention the 15% off when it's time to pay (on $300 that's $45) they look at me shocked. 

It's already much too late to mention this "when it's time to pay." Clients should bring up the advertised discount when inquiring about rates and booking availability.

[pubic_assistance]

57 minutes ago, Ali Gator said:

why are they still charging $300 in my city? Their expenses are much lower than NY and Boston

I'm assuming most providers aren't gypsies and have to pay rent on some sort of home base. If that's NYC or Boston their travel expenses only ADD to their budget not deduct from it because the customers in that area are on a budget.

[Walt]

3 hours ago, Medin said:

It seems you guys are using CPI and not the labor inflation rate.  I've yet to find a company that will accept CPI during contract negotiations.  I'd have to look it up but I think the real labor rate increase in the past 12 months is closer to 5%.  

Thanks...and that's exactly why I originally asked where is everyone finding their data!  Where do you find the 5% number? On the U.S. Department of Labor "Inflation Calculator" it leads to the 18% from 1/2019 to 10/2022 shown above -- and then links to "How to Use the Consumer Price Index for Escalation" https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/statistics/inflation . Is the Department of Labor using the wrong figure--or are greedy companies just ignoring the facts?

[+ KensingtonHomo]

4 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

I have a couple gay friends who head up to Montreal frequently for the "entertainment". So I am assuming if $ 300 is the benchmark up there, the pricing is significantly higher on our end, or they wouldn't be making the trip. Given the "hundreds of escorts" they could have met right at home.

We were there in May and most guys were charging $250 CAN. 

[Midtownguy99]

On 12/4/2022 at 10:30 PM, Luv2play said:

You can still get someone decent below $300 but not by much in my opinion. I've hired at $250 to $275 with nice results. Mind you I prefer somewhat longer so often negotiate 2 hours for $400. And they haven't been clockwatchers in most cases.

I’m curious to see what the escort you’re hiring for $200 an hour looks like. We probably have different types my friend. That’s about half or even less than what I usually pay for per hour.  Or it could just be your region but I’ve never seen someone (that I’m interested in) charge that little. 
 

Also, how does it make you feel when you negotiate a provider’s rates when he’s already charging below market value and you don’t care to stay within the timeframe you agreed on? Do you feel like you earned a win or came out on top? 

[Luv2play]

5 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

I'm assuming most providers aren't gypsies and have to pay rent on some sort of home base. If that's NYC or Boston their travel expenses only ADD to their budget not deduct from it because the customers in that area are on a budget.

I've actually met a few escorts who do lead gypsy like existences.

[Luv2play]

47 minutes ago, Midtownguy99 said:

I’m curious to see what the escort you’re hiring for $200 an hour looks like. We probably have different types my friend. That’s about half or even less than what I usually pay for per hour.  Or it could just be your region but I’ve never seen someone (that I’m interested in) charge that little. 
 

Also, how does it make you feel when you negotiate a provider’s rates when he’s already charging below market value and you don’t care to stay within the timeframe you agreed on? Do you feel like you earned a win or came out on top? 

I misspoke. I meant to say one and a half hours for $400. Sometimes two hours for $500.

[jcmiami1]

Here in Miami the average is $300 so far.

[Hlparx]

10 hours ago, Midtownguy99 said:

I’m curious to see what the escort you’re hiring for $200 an hour looks like. We probably have different types my friend. That’s about half or even less than what I usually pay for per hour.  Or it could just be your region but I’ve never seen someone (that I’m interested in) charge that little. 

While we often use price as a proxy for quality, that’s not always the case.  I live in a mid-sized West Coast city.  Since I started hiring in 2019, most guys that I’ve hired here ask for at least $250 with $300 being the standard.  I hired a hung, handsome, ginger muscle top in 2019 who asked for $200.  I had a fantastic time.

Edited December 6, 2022 by Hlparx

[Medin]

1 hour ago, Hlparx said:

While we often use price as a proxy for quality, that’s not always the case.  I live in a mid-sized West Coast city.  Since I started hiring in 2019, most guys that I’ve hired here ask for at least $250 with $300 being the standard.  I hired a hung, handsome, ginger muscle top in 2019 who asked for $200.  I had a fantastic time.

Very true.  Some/most of my best experiences have been with guys who charge at the lower range of about $200-$250.  There is definitely no correlation between price and quality in this industry unfortunately.  

[Midtownguy99]

Are these fees you all are quoting current (2022)? Not from 2019 or several years ago. Covid changed a lot of things. Several smoldering hot guys that I never thought would be for rent began escorting during the pandemic. The price for everything went up, as did several of the provider’s fees. From what I’ve seen $400 per hour is the norm currently. 
 

My game has changed since the pandemic and I don’t hire several different providers so often like I used to. I’m more selective and have my set guys that I will happily spoil instead of spreading myself so thin on hourly appointments with anyone that checks a box or two. 
 

I’ve seen several clients on the forums really complaining about the discrepancy between $300 and $400. Is it that serious to throw a fit or will that make not wanting to hire a provider because you solely base your experience on what you used to pay 3 or more years ago?

[pubic_assistance]

13 hours ago, Midtownguy99 said:

I’m curious to see what the escort you’re hiring for $200 an hour looks like. We probably have different types my friend. That’s about half or even less than what I usually pay for per hour.  Or it could just be your region but I’ve never seen someone (that I’m interested in) charge that little. 

Well now..... that's always the issue when you're comparing notes about pricing.

Some people want a Ferrari and others are happy with a used Ford Pick up truck.

 

Edited December 6, 2022 by pubic_assistance
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[Hlparx]

2 hours ago, Midtownguy99 said:

Are these fees you all are quoting current (2022)? Not from 2019 or several years ago. Covid changed a lot of things. Several smoldering hot guys that I never thought would be for rent began escorting during the pandemic. The price for everything went up, as did several of the provider’s fees. From what I’ve seen $400 per hour is the norm currently. 
 

My game has changed since the pandemic and I don’t hire several different providers so often like I used to. I’m more selective and have my set guys that I will happily spoil instead of spreading myself so thin on hourly appointments with anyone that checks a box or two. 
 

I’ve seen several clients on the forums really complaining about the discrepancy between $300 and $400. Is it that serious to throw a fit or will that make not wanting to hire a provider because you solely base your experience on what you used to pay 3 or more years ago?

My guess is that if you're still paying the same amount you were paying before 2020, you're likely seeing someone you saw before 2020 and are getting a loyalty discount.  The escort I see regularly has not informed me a price increase.  It wouldn't surprise me if he's asking new clients for more.  The masseur that I see regularly has increased his price.  Same in the UK/Eurozone.  Before 2020, providers there usually asked for 150-200 currency units.  Now, almost everyone starts at 200

[Luv2play]

3 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Well now..... that's always the issue when you're comparing notes about pricing.

Some people want a Ferrari and others are happy with a used Ford Pick up truck.

 

The pickup truck is usually more versatile and not high maintenance. 😜

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

On 12/5/2022 at 4:14 PM, Medin said:

It seems you guys are using CPI and not the labor inflation rate.  I've yet to find a company that will accept CPI during contract negotiations.  I'd have to look it up but I think the real labor rate increase in the past 12 months is closer to 5%.  

My union labor ontact, and the contract of similar companies in my county, is based on CPI.  Reference to the CPI is spelled out to determine annual wage increase, subject to a minimum and maximum.

[pubic_assistance]

10 minutes ago, Vegas_nw1982 said:

My union labor ontact, and the contract of similar companies in my county, is based on CPI.  Reference to the CPI is spelled out to determine annual wage increase, subject to a minimum and maximum.

Businesses in the US are always trying to find a way to hedge against the cost of labor.  If they mis-quote actual inflation numbers, you can trick people into accepting "cost of living" increases that don't really match up with your actual cost of living increase. For example "minimum wage" was increased in 2021, and to my estimation any gain was swallowed up by inflation. Minimum wage earners probably make LESS in 2022 even though they were told they got an increase in 2021. This benefits the employer as their costs are now lower and they've tricked the employee into believing they got a raise.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

This thread is enlightening as to some of the personalities here.

I wonder if some of you had to attach personally identifying info, whether you'd be so brazen with your talk of what someone should charge for their services.

Always remember: Escorts are human beings who have financial obligations just like you.  You don't get to set someone's rate or tell him why he should charge less, but you do have the choice of being a decent person and respectfully declining. 

Don't be a prick.  It's not all that difficult.