Paid in fake money?

[MidAndy]

I wonder if any of the providers were ever paid in prop money, something they use in movies. As I understand the transaction is usually quick and has some awkwardness. Or it may be dark, or a bill on a top may be real but others are not.

So my question is what you did (or would do) if you you were paid in prop money? Contact a client? What if they block you? Contact the police?

 

 

[BuffaloKyle]

I've seen stories popping back up again of people using them:

Edited June 29, 2022 by BuffaloKyle

[marylander1940]

15 minutes ago, MidAndy said:

I wonder if any of the providers were ever paid in prop money, something they use in movies. As I understand the transaction is usually quick and has some awkwardness. Or it may be dark, or a bill on a top may be real but others are not.

So my question is what you did (or would do) if you you were paid in prop money? Contact a client? What if they block you? Contact the police?

 

 

I only know of one escort who got paid with a bill the ATM wouldn't take, he took a careful look and discovered it was counterfeit 20, later on he gave it to a friend who collects coins as one more piece for his collection. 

I would contact the client and explained it to him, hopefully he'll understand but I would never take it to the police or a bank because they're likely to ask questions and as we all know lying to them is not a good idea. 

[MikeBiDude]

A masseur contacted me once after a session saying 3-4 of the 20’s I’d given him were counterfeit. He was informed of this by a Bank of America teller…at the same bank branch I’d taken the money from an ATM hours earlier! 

We scheduled a repeat a week or two out and I made good on the counterfeits for him.

[+ sam.fitzpatrick]

This is a great reminder to providers to actually count the money being paid to them.  I cannot tell you how many guys I see thank me and don't count the money while I'm there.  This is when you want to catch the problem.  

Also, these prop bills used in the movies have a different feel than real stuff.  

[+ sync]

This is the first time I'm aware of the "for motion picture use only" currency.

Life just gets better and better...NOT!

[Kevin Slater]

4 hours ago, MidAndy said:

I wonder if any of the providers were ever paid in prop money

Yeah, but then I just fake my orgasm.

Kevin Slater

[italianboyph]

I honestly didn't think about this, so it's good that someone brought this up

[Jamie21]

12 hours ago, sam.fitzpatrick said:

This is a great reminder to providers to actually count the money being paid to them.  I cannot tell you how many guys I see thank me and don't count the money while I'm there.  This is when you want to catch the problem.  

Also, these prop bills used in the movies have a different feel than real stuff.  

I don’t like to count the money in front of clients. I just take it and ask if they need change. Never had a problem with it being short or of fake notes. I guess I’ve been lucky. Most of my clients pay by credit or debit card though. No one carries cash these days. 

[maninsoma]

Most providers I've hired haven't counted money in front of me.  I'll admit that it does feel kind of tacky to see someone counting the bills after I've handed them to him, only because the service is so personal.  I have to remind myself that I expect a store clerk or a bank teller to actually look at what I hand them, so it certainly isn't unreasonable for an escort to count what he's being paid or even for them to use one of those markers that easily identifies fake currency.

What I wouldn't do is accept someone's statement after the fact that he was given counterfeit bills by me.  Why should I acquiesce to someone's request for more money on the basis that I gave him counterfeit bills unless I have reason to believe that's true (such as looking in my wallet and discovering that I have more counterfeit currency).  Even if the guy is honest, he may have gotten the counterfeit bills from someone else.  Or maybe he's just a scammer and figures this is a good way to get paid more.  Unless he's a regular, I have no reason to trust him more than I trust my bank to ensure that only legal tender is in its ATMs.

I did underpay a regular once.  He told me about it after he left since he never counted my payment in front of me, and I made good on my "balance due" the next time I saw him.

[Ali Gator]

I always insist the provider count the money in front of me, no matter how chummy he seems on the first appointment ( or following appointments). I explain, “ business is business” and as a customer I want him to count it in front of me so there’s no discrepancy.  After he does then I can continue hugging and kissing him goodbye. 

[BeamerBikes]

Amazon has a shit ton of prop money for sale so beware!  

Some tips for spotting counterfeits

Beware of old currency styles.  Paper money lifetime is measured in years.  Older style of 20s,50s, 100s are extremely hard to find in normal circulation.  

First feel - US money is printed in Cotton based paper it feels substantially different than paper.  It should feel a bit like fabric 

This  can be done discretely if you don't want to eyeball further

Next - Visual clues

- color changing ink lower right corner number -  if you focus on the number printed on the bill, it should change colors from green to gold when tilted up and down. The pressure printing method adds this feature. 

-on new hundreds look for the hologram strip in the middle. It should move visually as you move the hill.  

These next two are harder to do discretely, and more advanced techniques where the goal should be to get change in return.  

- red and blue fibers in the paper bill itself.

- there's also presidential face watermarks and security strips on the paper that should match the domination. This is an advanced technique to bleach out $1, $5 to print $20, $50, $100s.  I'd doubt a client would pass these bills for services. Advanced fakes would be best to get real change from... 

Goal of a counterfeiters is to trade their fake money for real money with paying the least overhead hence you see so many fast food places saying nothing bigger than a $20.  Buying a $1 drink with a $50/100 yields $49 or $99 in clean real money.  

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

4 hours ago, BeamerBikes said:

hence you see so many fast food places saying nothing bigger than a $20.

I always thought this language on a sign was silly, as all US bills are the same size.  Signs should read "No bills greater than $20 accepted".

Edited June 30, 2022 by Vegas_nw1982

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

4 hours ago, BeamerBikes said:

Beware of old currency styles.  Paper money lifetime is measured in years.  Older style of 20s,50s, 100s are extremely hard to find in normal circulation.  

This may depend on the location within the US.  In Las Vegas, about half of the $100 notes I receive from the bank are pre-2010 and do not contain a hologram.  About 1 in 20 of the $100 bills I find are pre-1996, with the older smaller portrait of Ben Franklin.

About 0.01% of the $2 notes I find are pre-1976, and have the Jefferson Memorial on the reverse side instead of the Signing of the Declaration of Independence.

[BeamerBikes]

1 hour ago, Vegas_nw1982 said:

This may depend on the location within the US.  In Las Vegas, about half of the $100 notes I receive from the bank are pre-2010 and do not contain a hologram.  About 1 in 20 of the $100 bills I find are pre-1996, with the older smaller portrait of Ben Franklin.

About 0.01% of the $2 notes I find are pre-1976, and have the Jefferson Memorial on the reverse side instead of the Signing of the Declaration of Independence.

Yeah by denomination $100s avg life is 20 years.  The latest style came out in 2013 so that tracks.  Link below includes other signs to check for validity by year.   

By feel is still my favorite quick check.

https://www.uscurrency.gov/denominations/100

[+ DrownedBoy]

Didn't this topic come up earlier? I believe several providers mentioned cheap pens to check for counterfeits.

However, I agree with clients who say that counting the cash is tacky. Whenever a provider counts money in front of me, it turns out to be a crappy or fake session. And I'm old fashioned enough to be insulted by it.

[Guest]

I once got one fake $20 out of a payment of several hundred all in 20s. That's in Canada where fakes are hilariously obvious. I was more amused than anything. The client worked in cash-forward business as well, if you take my drift, and I don't think he even realized he'd put a fake in. If he did intend to scam me for those 20$....then well played, I guess. 

[Jamie21]

This is the risk if you’ve not familiar with the notes. I’ve been paid in foreign currency in the past (€ or $) and that’s fine, I prefer £ but if the client doesn’t want to use GBP it’s cool, I’ll accept these other currencies but I’m not so familiar with what fakes look like, especially US$. It’s useful to have a website you can look at to check them although I definitely wouldn’t do it in front of my client. 

When I worked in a bank we were taught to put all notes of same denomination the same way around in a pile and count them by peeling off a corner and pulling it back. You can count hundreds of notes quickly and because they’re all oriented the same you quickly notice if one feels or looks different. I still do that today….all the notes facing the same way and in same denominations (or maybe it’s my OCD?). 

[+ keroscenefire]

On 6/30/2022 at 5:48 AM, maninsoma said:

 

I did underpay a regular once.  He told me about it after he left since he never counted my payment in front of me, and I made good on my "balance due" the next time I saw him.

This happened to me one time too. I accidentally gave the provider a  $20 instead of a $50 so was $30 short. I felt so bad and made it up to him on Venmo. I've actually gotten in the habit now of keeping the money in a separate pocket completely out of my wallet so I don't mix up my wallet money with my provider money. 

[Luv2play]

In Canada I always pay with 50s or 100s. I don't like using 20s since there are usually too many to be efficient in counting. .

I also always use a bank envelope made expressly for bank notes. I slip the envelope to the provider when he is preparing to leave. In most cases they just put it in their backpack or in their pocket without looking in it. 

Sometimes it will contain over $2000 but I guess I have an honest face. Lol