Isn't 400 dollars for a hour too much for New York standards?

[Skip]

gosh this thread is getting tiresome. It has gone on so long that at 7% curent inflation the amoutn we are talking about being supposedly outreageous would now be $425... We should have locked in a $400 rate on some sort of a lease arrangment so it didn't go up 

And as for the tax discussion... shouldn't we be paying health insurance? And are we matching on any 401(k) contributions? 

A lot of moving parts here. 

[Basset Favor]

@Beancounter You didn't read the IRS website at all, now did you?

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File Form 1099-MISC, Miscellaneous Income, for each person in the course of your business to whom you have paid the following during the year

 

[cany10011]

14 hours ago, Beancounter said:

While it would be advantageous for escorts to report all of their income on Schedule C you may rest assured the VAST majority of escorts report little to none of their cash income on their tax returns.  You are one of a very few who does.  
 

If I spend $600 with an escort and ask for his SSN and address so I can provide him with a 1099-MISC, how many escorts would fork over that information?  Precious few.  Let’s not kid ourselves here guys.  This is for the most part a cash and carry profession.  Precious little is reported as taxable income.  

I spent 45-50 last year on this hobby primarily on 2 regulars and have never been asked to issue any 1099s... lol

Edited March 12, 2022 by cany10011

[Skip]

2 hours ago, cany10011 said:

I spent 45-50 last year on this hobby primarily on 2 regulars and have never been asked to issue any 1099s... lol

Finally someone that can chime in, if you can't spend in the thousands per year and not have it matter...you should be watching porn. And for those of you that don't get it, Cany is talking about forty to fifty thousand dollars.  I don't add mine up but it's more than twenty for sure. This is not a poor man's sport. It wasn't cheap in Oscar Wilde's day and it isn't now. Stop complaining about $400.  OK guys, jump on.. I have officially asked for it 

[xyz48B]

58 minutes ago, Skip said:

Finally someone that can chime in, if you can't spend in the thousands per year and not have it matter...you should be watching porn. And for those of you that don't get it, Cany is talking about forty to fifty thousand dollars.  I don't add mine up but it's more than twenty for sure. This is not a poor man's sport. It wasn't cheap in Oscar Wilde's day and it isn't now. Stop complaining about $400.  OK guys, jump on.. I have officially asked for it 

That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it. Why gang up on you if you disagree?

[+ goosh69]

4 hours ago, Skip said:

gosh this thread is getting tiresome. It has gone on so long that at 7% curent inflation the amoutn we are talking about being supposedly outreageous would now be $425... We should have locked in a $400 rate on some sort of a lease arrangment so it didn't go up 

And as for the tax discussion... shouldn't we be paying health insurance? And are we matching on any 401(k) contributions? 

A lot of moving parts here. 

Escort futures contracts traded on the CME.

Edited March 12, 2022 by goosh69

[Kevin Slater]

1 minute ago, goosh69 said:

Escort futures contracts traded on the CME.

Talk about being treated like a commodity.   

Kevin Slater

[guru68]

2 hours ago, goosh69 said:

Escort futures contracts traded on the CME.

We must immediately develop an escort-specific movie version of "Trading Places".

[mike carey]

Brazenly stolen from a twitter post of one of our escort members here. He didn't take credit for it.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

10 hours ago, mike carey said:

Brazenly stolen from a twitter post of one of our escort members here. He didn't take credit for it.

I'd charge 20% more for being asked in a grammatically incorrect way. 

[mike carey]

6 hours ago, Benjamin_Nicholas said:

I'd charge 20% more for being asked in a grammatically incorrect way. 

I was contemplating whether I should add that he neglected to say, 'You mean "are"'. I thought you might point it out.

[+ José Soplanucas]

5 minutes ago, mike carey said:

I was contemplating whether I should add that he neglected to say, 'You mean "are"'. I thought you might point it out.

He is going for  20% discount

[guru68]

10 hours ago, latbear4blk said:

He is going for  20% discount

The best plan is to work on claiming the visit on your insurance as a "chiropractic adjustment". 

[Alex93108]

Thankfully this is not the typical London rate, but I thought I would share . And as a point of reference most people in the UK don’t earn as much as Americans do ( there are exceptions of course ) . Cost of living is comparable to New York easily . 

He came recommended though . 

£350 is about 460 dollars on a good day 

 

 

[DMICS]

I'd definitely do that £350 for any one of Andy Lee, Billy Essex, Big Liam, or Hard Valentine (Tom Sutcliffe) in the U.K. haha.

[+ José Soplanucas]

Thanks for the inspiration.

https://ilikepinga.com/2022/03/26/power-trip-clients/

[jtwalker]

In any service industry, providers may charge whatever people are willing to pay.  If they charge too much, they either adjust or go broke.

Consumers get to decide how much they are willing to pay.

I don't know why this question keeps coming up, its not complicated.

[MikeBiDude]

14 minutes ago, jtwalker said:

I don't know why this question keeps coming up, its not complicated.

Plus 1, this

[+ José Soplanucas]

25 minutes ago, jtwalker said:

I don't know why this question keeps coming up, its not complicated.

Because Karens are immortal, tireless, and ubiquitous. 

Edited March 27, 2022 by latbear4blk

[+ bigjoey]

Decades ago, when I first discovered The Gaiety in NYC, I recall the “old timers” complaining that it was outrageous that the dancers wanted $100-$150 for a “private” time when they use to pay $25😱.  These periodic discussions on this site remind me of those years.😀

Some people just live in the past.😥.  Sorry, time to move on and accept the reality of the present.👍

[+ José Soplanucas]

31 minutes ago, bigjoey said:

Decades ago, when I first discovered The Gaiety in NYC, I recall the “old timers” complaining that it was outrageous that the dancers wanted $100-$150 for a “private” time when they use to pay $25😱.  These periodic discussions on this site remind me of those years.😀

Some people just live in the past.😥.  Sorry, time to move on and accept the reality of the present.👍

I understand your point, but I do not think it is the root cause of this recurrent issue. I think too many clients are self centered whining bitches and feel a deep despise for sex work and sex workers. That is the root issue, IMHO. 

[+ bigjoey]

1 hour ago, latbear4blk said:

I understand your point, but I do not think it is the root cause of this recurrent issue. I think too many clients are self centered whining bitches and feel a deep despise for sex work and sex workers. That is the root issue, IMHO. 

The two things are not mutually exclusive.

[Midtownguy99]

On 3/1/2022 at 10:51 PM, lionbrown said:

$400 might be worth it, but its the 'send an uber' crap that annoys me. If you need to build in cost of transportation to your rate, just do that. Don't nickle and dime me. You're becoming a bad airline.

It’s not necessarily nickel and diming. I’ve been told by many the reason they request the Uber, is because some of us guys like to play games and request them in the middle of the night when no one’s there. So I think they more so do it for safety purposes and added confirmation that we are serious about the appointment. 
 

I usually will send a deposit if they travel to me and they can figure out how they want to get to me. Some drive, some take Uber, some take the train. 

[Midtownguy99]

On 3/3/2022 at 12:45 AM, xyz48B said:

Insensitive remark.

Were guys charging $300/hr in 2002? That was the pre-COVID rate for some. In 2002, I wasn’t even sure I knew what masturbation was, so I definitely wasn’t up on the rack rate for escorts. But something tells me it wasn’t $300/hr.

I heard guys were charging $300 even before 2000. They said the reason the rate stuck for so long was because years ago there only used to be only 20 providers in NYC. And now there are 200, so the market is saturated with more options. Something along those lines. 

[Midtownguy99]

On 3/3/2022 at 1:14 PM, jetlow said:

I'll end on this note. It's a piece of wisdom my former manager imparted on me some years ago. 

i was a young impressionable 23 year old who had just moved to New York at the time.  [ Looking back I wish I had more sex too - I was far too proper and conservative] .

 I was living in a partially subsidized apartment in Manhattan with roommates. At the time, my starting salary was VERY LOW - and nearly panicked when I walked into a supermarket [ The Food Emporium?] to look at the price of milk and orange juice.  How is this going to work?

I was working in  a job that was part salary + part bonus + part commission - and i was concerned about how I was going to live ( I frankly I thought the salary component was unrealistic). I voiced these concerns to my manager who I was close friends with. 

I thought maybe I need to cut back and trim expenses. 

His answer

"You shouldn't be worried that milk costs X and orange juice costs Y etc.  Cutting back is not the solution"

You see the solution, Jetlow…….is to just make more money. That will solve all of your problems.   Its the New York solution to all problems really -  just go make more money.

 

So for those cringing at NY rates either

1) Make more money

2) Hire elsewhere 

3) Pass

 

Perfectly said 👏