What Makes you STOP Responding to Client's Messages?

[sjmuktop]

2 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

The “PnP” aka party and play scene (Chemsex just sounds like some sort of bioengineered sex lol) is big in just about every major gay scene in America too. 
 

 

We don't really say 'PnP' this side of the pond. I think that's more an American thing. 'HnH' is the term used here, which means "high and horny". You see it mainly on Grindr profiles. When I used to have Grindr on my phone, I would always block anyone who messaged me with 'HnH' in their profile. 

[maninsoma]

10 hours ago, sjmuktop said:

Most of my sessions with escorts are for just one hour, or sometimes 2 or 3. 

I don't really do overnights. In fact, I think I've only had 2 or 3 overnight sessions in the whole 15 years I've been hiring.

Most clients only book an hour or two max (if reviews on RentMen are anything to go by). But there are those who really love the longer and/or overnight sessions, and these tend to be the guys who are involved in the whole chemsex scene. As @Jamie21rightly says, this is a really big scene in London and there are plenty of escorts who are more than happy (and even prefer) to use chems while they are with clients. It is not uncommon for an escort to ask me, during our initial communication over WhatsApp prior to meeting, if I'm "into chems?".

The chemsex scene is HUGE in the London gay community/gay world, but I should add that it is not always problematic (though I should state that, as a non-user of chems, I am not defending chems). Many of the escorts who use chems only do so with clients who want them to do that, and are not addicted junkies who need the chems in order to have a good time. I actually think most of the escorts who do the chems will only do so if the client requests it and are not addicts. That said,  sadly the G and "Tina" addicts do exist, and I could tell you a few names on RentMen to avoid if you were ever in London and were looking to hire but wanted to avoid the druggies (but I won't do so on here).

 

 

I wonder what percentage of overnight or longer hires are for PnP versus just being clients who are looking for more of a "boyfriend experience" who can afford a longer session.  I only have a sample of me and some knowledge of someone I used to hire regularly and I'd say his overnight and longer appointments were definitely the latter.

[Alex93108]

2 hours ago, maninsoma said:

I wonder what percentage of overnight or longer hires are for PnP versus just being clients who are looking for more of a "boyfriend experience" who can afford a longer session.  I only have a sample of me and some knowledge of someone I used to hire regularly and I'd say his overnight and longer appointments were definitely the latter.

And I wonder , do the providers actually  get paid for the chemsex / PNP or is the drugs payment ? 

I would imagine in a state of high the client would forget that the meter is running and the provider would be to high to care 

 

 

Edited September 30, 2021 by jetlow

[+ DrownedBoy]

3 hours ago, jetlow said:

I would imagine in a state of high the client would forget that the meter is running and the provider would be to high to care 

 

 

That's what I was wondering.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

9 hours ago, jetlow said:

And I wonder , do the providers actually  get paid for the chemsex / PNP or is the drugs payment ? 

I would imagine in a state of high the client would forget that the meter is running and the provider would be to high to care 

 

 

The latter you're talking about, if someone having sex in exchange for drugs...that's not a provider. That's what we call in America: a crack ho. 

Not that is funny or meant to be demeaning, but it's a serious issue and a part of the negative stigma often given to sex workers in movies and crime sitcoms. So, don't even go there.

[Alex93108]

8 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

The latter you're talking about, if someone having sex in exchange for drugs...that's not a provider. That's what we call in America: a crack ho. 

Not that is funny or meant to be demeaning, but it's a serious issue and a part of the negative stigma often given to sex workers in movies and crime sitcoms. So, don't even go there.

 

Ok thats low. Thanks, @Jarrod_Uncut for keeping it real.

In an update, finally got over the bad sex in London with fantastic sex bad back in he US. 

I just need the memory of this bad boy erased the next time i am back in London, will be doing more dillgent hiring ( with hopefully a great provider)  when I back in there in a few months  otherwise I will tainted with his memory .  I am sure London has a fantastic top I can find attractive ?  Or even playful bottom. To be continued. 

Great sex cancels out bad sex. Bad appointments are costly, because that means I will need another one to correct the experience. 

 

Edited October 1, 2021 by jetlow

[marylander1940]

On 9/25/2021 at 8:30 PM, jetlow said:

 

My favorite provider in Brazil went through his entire savings and stopped taking clients . He’s planning a trip back to Europe as soon as Brazilians are allowed back in. 

He probably gets lots of business - and it’s a number game . Move on to the next one . If there is no business forthcoming expect no reply 

South American escorts have their shit together, didn't play raw before PrEP, behave responsibly and have their shit together. 

Sorry for taking this off subject. 

On 9/30/2021 at 3:18 AM, Jamie21 said:

There is a scene in London where clients want providers to use party drugs with them during the session. These are longer appointments. I guess if you’re easily influenced and mix with wrong people it can be easy to fall into (basically you get paid to party…you can see how that might sound appealing at first). Once you’re in that scene it’s almost impossible to escape. 
But yes it’s possible to have longer appointments here outside of that scene. I don’t do them (I’ve friends who do) because I don’t have time and it’s not my market anyway. I think London has everything and a regular supply of international visitors…I walk through the city and think “ah yes I saw x client at that hotel….and him at that hotel” 😂

Sounds like drug pushing sessions... later on their money will dry out, their dick die and they'll never have a long escorting career like you. 

 

[marylander1940]

On 9/15/2021 at 4:38 PM, lonely_john said:

Release your stress and frustration Providers!

Back to subject:

when texts make no sense... most escorts have a 6th sense unfortunately with texting is more difficult to realize if someone is serious. 

Also when is noticeable the client haven't even read the ad of the escort or can't even tell where is he located, etc. 

[jcarper]

Hey, speaking of bad vibes, any of you LA guys also get first texts like:

1. Are you into bondage?
2. Can I tie you up?
3. U wanna have a 3sum with my dog?

I'd be interested to know what your "ignore ratio" is. Out of every ten clients, how many do you ignore on average due to bad vibes?

[+ E.T.Bass]

A communications instructor emphasized over and over to us how emails and texting are not nearly as effective as talking to someone on the phone or in person. In fact, misunderstandings are frequent, for specific reasons.  So be careful what you type and don't assume too much.   I try to keep it real and to be positive and polite.  And never use sarcasm or come across as smarmy, queeny or bitchy.

I didn't realize providers could rate clients.  Does that include massage clients, such as on rentmasseur.com?

The notion of blocking clients makes sense.  I wish there was a way to filter out certain providers on rentmasseur.com, ones I know I will never hire again, and so on.

[lonely_john]

17 hours ago, E.T.Bass said:

I wish there was a way to filter out certain providers on rentmasseur.com, ones I know I will never hire again, and so on.

I don't think there is any way to make them disappear from your screen. Even if you block them you will see them if they appear on the home page of your city, or if they are available. It's probably also not very useful as there are so called "providers" who are serial name changers, so if there was a way to make them disappear from your screen with their old name, they would soon reappear with their new name.

[xyz48B]

On 10/1/2021 at 11:01 AM, marylander1940 said:

Back to subject:

when texts make no sense... most escorts have a 6th sense unfortunately with texting is more difficult to realize if someone is serious. 

Also when is noticeable the client haven't even read the ad of the escort or can't even tell where is he located, etc. 

I didn’t realize you were a provider, @marylander1940!

[lonely_john]

3 hours ago, xyz48B said:

I didn’t realize you were a provider, @marylander1940!

My theory is that Marylander is a client, but secretly a daddy escort for young boys 🙈

[Pd1_jap]

This text chain happened over the course of two months. 

[Jamie21]

This one was uplifting…

[Alex93108]

12 minutes ago, Pd1_jap said:

This text chain happened over the course of two months. 

I asked a local provider feedback on my communication - it came across as concise and to the point . 

I travel a lot internationally , and some people don’t do English so well - this might be a language problem 

[Pd1_jap]

38 minutes ago, jetlow said:

I asked a local provider feedback on my communication - it came across as concise and to the point . 

I travel a lot internationally , and some people don’t do English so well - this might be a language problem 

TBH, the ad I replied to had photos of a quasi-famous Instagram influencer/fashion designer. I suspect it was a scammer trying to use his pics. However, the Instagram influencer is so hot I had to try. 

[Pd1_jap]

On 10/1/2021 at 8:01 AM, marylander1940 said:

Back to subject:

when texts make no sense... most escorts have a 6th sense unfortunately with texting is more difficult to realize if someone is serious. 

Also when is noticeable the client haven't even read the ad of the escort or can't even tell where is he located, etc. 

This isn't exclusive to escorting. Imagine all the wanna be homeowners texting real estate agents. 

[marylander1940]

4 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

This one was uplifting…

I have a feeling that potential client doesn't play well with others and has lots of issues

[xyz48B]

2 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

I have a feeling that potential client doesn't play well with others and has lots of issues

Why?

[Jamie21]

7 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

I have a feeling that potential client doesn't play well with others and has lots of issues

I’m sure if he’s have booked a session I could have had him liking cock 🙂

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

On 10/5/2021 at 1:56 PM, Pd1_jap said:

This isn't exclusive to escorting. Imagine all the wanna be homeowners texting real estate agents. 

True, but what agents today have going for them is their ability to say 'show me the cash or have your bank give me a call' before wasting too much of their time.  

Especially in this real estate market, a flake lookie-loo doesn't last long.  The sniff test is getting tougher.

[WolfCompanion]

I only stop replying to clients who are rude to me. I reply to every single message and I'm cool with chatting with anyone even if he's not planning on meeting soon. But once they do not respect my time or me, then it's over.

[Storm4U]

I’m going to add one more thing because this just occurred this evening. If somebody sends me a text that just says “hi” or “hey”, I do not respond because that suggests to me that it is going to be a longwinded back and forth that may not even go anywhere, and it also suggests that he is indecisive, since he could’ve just said, “Hi, Im looking for a 60 minute massage this evening. Are you available between 8:00 pm and 10:00 pm?”...all in 1 text. Being direct and saving time is tremendously underrated.

Edited November 1, 2021 by Storm4U

[Jamie21]

On 10/31/2021 at 4:53 AM, Storm4U said:

I’m going to add one more thing because this just occurred this evening. If somebody sends me a text that just says “hi” or “hey”, I do not respond because that suggests to me that it is going to be a longwinded back and forth that may not even go anywhere, and it also suggests that he is indecisive, since he could’ve just said, “Hi, Im looking for a 60 minute massage this evening. Are you available between 8:00 pm and 10:00 pm?”...all in 1 text. Being direct and saving time is tremendously underrated.

I agree. “Hi” is an annoying opening and rarely results in a booking. I do respond because I don’t want to be difficult but if the conversation goes nowhere I very quickly just direct them to my website for answers (there’s an FAQ) and end the chat with something like “if you’d like to book let me know, have a good day, bye” which is usually enough to make them realise I’m not going to engage in a sex conversation or try to persuade them to make up their mind.

These guys are usually either just wanting some chat to get off or they’re unsure about booking in which case I’m not inclined to engage because 9 times out of 10 they’ll book and then not show up or cancel it the day before when the reality of what they’ve got themselves into hits home.

The correct approach is “hi, I’d like to book x massage on the day/time, I’ll pay by card/cash”. Then we’re good to confirm the booking and discuss other details. It’s simple…you see my website, like the proposition, make the arrangements. No fuss, no messing about.