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4 hours ago, Kevin Slater said:

I arrange these frequently (see my twitter, linked below).  Sum of each guy's hourly rate x the number of hours you want him.  If you want one of the guys to do the arranging, pay him an extra hour for that as well.

If you want to stretch your budget, maybe stagger the arrival times by 30 minutes and book each guy for two hours instead of four, perhaps keeping the guy who did the arranging for the whole period.

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I'd go higher end than La Quinta, I mean you're going to spend $5k on this event so splurge a little on the room, I'd get a suite somewhere with 1 or 2 king size beds.   Doesn't have to be 5 star.  I think a big impersonal hotel would be best, pref one without elevator keycard access.   You can always call and ask for extra towels, also if there are housekeeping carts in the halls you can grab more.   A few packages of baby wipes are always good to have at a party like this 😉.

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9 hours ago, azdr0710 said:

one quick comment:  I'm wondering if a huge, busy, corporate, multi-story hotel with a huge lobby might be better for this type of scene......the guys could come and go with near-anonymity amid the crowds rather than at an exterior corridor La Quinta where things just seem so....close.....with people constantly walking right outside and the desk clerk possibly noticing lots of cars and people coming to that one room......

of course, you might need to check on keycard elevator access at that big hotel......

otherwise, make sure everybody knows the deal and what you hope to have happen.....specify no drugs (if that's important).....be honest with everybody......there won't be any cheesy porn music wafting down from the heavens (like in the movies), so you might want to set some kind of music or video up on the TV or a laptop.......have some cold water or sodas available......bring extra towels so a request to housekeeping doesn't look too suspicious??!!.......and leave a tip for the housekeeping staff, regardless of requests!......

Yeah I kinda go back and forth. I know from hiring and visiting guys at their hotels that quite a few have keycard access, which I really would rather not have. The La Quinta I'm thinking of actually hosts Bate Buddies parties where there are often dozens of guys, which is part of the reason why I think a two-queen bed at one of those could be perfect. Downtown can also be kinda crappy to park/drive to where this La Quinta is right off the highway and has its own parking lot. But I could look into some other options as well. 

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2 hours ago, Epigonos said:

You might want to consider going to RB&B, or some similar agency, and renting a nice home for the night.  This would give you privacy, the run of the place and a much larger playpen. . 

 

This right here.

These days, a hotel (or even motel) will be more cognisant of multiple guys going in and out of one particular room.

You don't want to attract too much attention, especially of the wrong kind.

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1 hour ago, Benjamin_Nicholas said:

These days, a hotel (or even motel) will be more cognisant of multiple guys going in and out of one particular room.

True. I was at the Wynn in Vegas last week and a group of 7-8 20-something hyper-masculine males were trying to get past the elevator security guard. "I don’t care if you have a room key, there’s now way I’m letting you guys in. I’m happy to call the manager for you, but the answers going to be the same." They caused a big "bro scene", and got nowhere. 
 

That’s the reason I stay at the Wynn…..Security. 

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2 hours ago, Benjamin_Nicholas said:

 

This right here.

These days, a hotel (or even motel) will be more cognisant of multiple guys going in and out of one particular room.

You don't want to attract too much attention, especially of the wrong kind.

Yeah, like hotel security. That could put a quick end to the orgy 

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49 minutes ago, nycman said:

True. I was at the Wynn in Vegas last week and a group of 7-8 20-something hyper-masculine males were trying to get past the elevator security guard. "I don’t care if you have a room key, there’s now way I’m letting you guys in. I’m happy to call the manager for you, but the answers going to be the same." They caused a big "bro scene", and got nowhere. 
 

That’s the reason I stay at the Wynn…..Security. 

Maybe those hypermasculine types were actually a bunch of tops summoned by a bottom client.🙄

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21 hours ago, Coolwave35 said:

I play this scene out monthly. Your welcome to join if you’re ever in New York. It’s a lot of fun. Next weekend I have 12 providers spending the night at my house. I enjoy the scene and recommend every single one of them. Also, I got consent from all 12 to film so I’ll share that with you as well. 
 

it takes A LOT of work to find the right mix of guys comfortable with groups. Some of my favorite one on one guys are terrible in the group setting. 
 

if you’re going to do it, take your time planning. 
 

below are the boys participating next weekend. 

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Wow, what an impressive hunkfest! Will you be participating on camera (clothed or otherwise) or just directing offscreen?

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You’ve been given good advice @keroscenefire
 

FWIW in my more frisky past, I often organised small groups for fun. Here’s what I wrote 5 years ago in response to someone asking about how to setup a group. I feel my advice applies to groups of 4 or 5 but not to a huge orgy…but then I’m greedy and always wanted to play with each guy.

“I've had many, very successful threesomes. They fall into two groups: a good friend and I have played with 1 escort or a non-working guy; and I have played with 2 escorts.

 

I've always been very open and direct about what I expect to happen in each threesome (my friend is rather shy and enjoys me being dominant and taking the lead). I like to host and I set a relaxed tone by first opening a bottle of wine and having us all talk to get acquainted and discuss what we are going to do. 

 

When the threesome has comprised 2 escorts, I discuss beforehand what I enjoy, what I expect to do and what I like to have done to me. On the evening, again I like to set a relaxed tone with wine and chat first. I do this for no more than 15 minutes before leaning in to kiss whichever escort seems more keen to start. I find that setting an example and being confident always help. 

 

You are of course right to say that communication is key. I would add, however, that it is essential to have a very large bed with good sheets and pillows. And it helps to have on hand bottles of cold water in the bedroom along with plenty of condoms, lube and towels.”

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PS @keroscenefire also asked about cost and place…

Yes, I think $5000 should cover it if you’re having 4 guys join you. It depends on the action: is it for a few hours or overnight? Do you want to be the centre of the action? Or do you want each guy to be working non-stop with each other and you watching, directing and interacting?
 

I always preferred a big anonymous hotel (such as Hilton, Loew’s ie not 5* but decent) and I’d book a large suite. It’s good to have the space, and a large bathroom. I used to see if I really hit it off with one of the guys, and then I’d invite him to stay overnight (to give me a morning blowjob before breakfast)

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On 7/9/2021 at 4:49 PM, Coolwave35 said:

I play this scene out monthly. Your welcome to join if you’re ever in New York. It’s a lot of fun. Next weekend I have 12 providers spending the night at my house.

By chance it's this party?

 

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On 7/10/2021 at 9:12 AM, Coolwave35 said:

A pool and hot tub are also excellent amenities for this type of thing. Great idea! 

Sounds like a get idea but consider what the neighbours might think if a group of frolicking naked guys start making a noise. Assuming this is a rented space like an airb&b.

In a hotel pool, not cool unless a gay accomodation and then you will attract all sorts of party crashers.

Actually I see this as working best in a situation like our beloved Oliver hosts every spring in PS.

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1 hour ago, Luv2play said:

Sounds like a get idea but consider what the neighbours might think if a group of frolicking naked guys start making a noise. Assuming this is a rented space like an airb&b.

In a hotel pool, not cool unless a gay accomodation and then you will attract all sorts of party crashers.

Actually I see this as working best in a situation like our beloved Oliver hosts every spring in PS.

I rent a house in the Hollywood hills a couple times a year for this. It’s an Airbnb. The owner lives right next-door. I told her we are nudists that get together a couple times a year and she loves having us LOL she makes us take bags of lemons from her lemon tree. As you say, locale is super important. At my house, where I am hosting this weekend, I just had a row of trees planted to bolster the fence for privacy. If anyone sees us, it’s because they want to.

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1 hour ago, Coolwave35 said:

I rent a house in the Hollywood hills a couple times a year for this. It’s an Airbnb. The owner lives right next-door. I told her we are nudists that get together a couple times a year and she loves having us LOL she makes us take bags of lemons from her lemon tree. As you say, locale is super important. At my house, where I am hosting this weekend, I just had a row of trees planted to bolster the fence for privacy. If anyone sees us, it’s because they want to.

Yup, after 16 years here, that’s sounds like liberal LA living for ya, lol. 

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On 7/9/2021 at 12:31 PM, Epigonos said:

I have never done an orgy -- It takes all my strength just to make it thought a 3-way.  For someone, your age the idea sounds very appealing.  I would suggest that you start by working with a regular you know well and REALLY enjoy.  Discuss with him what you would like to do and select TOGETHER the rest of the guys, picking escorts who appeal to both of you.  I would also suggest that you work with your regular to choreograph how you want things to proceed.  If you go in blind without a plan, things might collapse and not turn out the way you would like

 

Yeah, I've never organized an orgy. I've been in attendance to a few, but I more played a voyeur/watching role. In my small experience of putting together 3-ways, most times it's a huge headache. Some have gone OK, not perfect, but most failed for various reasons.

Definitely having a regular play friend thats into that stuff helps. 

 

On 7/9/2021 at 4:49 PM, Coolwave35 said:

I play this scene out monthly. Your welcome to join if you’re ever in New York. It’s a lot of fun. Next weekend I have 12 providers spending the night at my house. I enjoy the scene and recommend every single one of them. Also, I got consent from all 12 to film so I’ll share that with you as well. 
 

it takes A LOT of work to find the right mix of guys comfortable with groups. Some of my favorite one on one guys are terrible in the group setting. 
 

if you’re going to do it, take your time planning. 
 

below are the boys participating next weekend. 

6B08382C-3887-4BFE-9E96-63F547F40EB8.jpeg

 

Wowzers. I'm jealous haha. And I see my favourite Shane Amari is there wow. I know the faces but forgot their names, the 1st guy(s) in the first two rows. 

 

On 7/10/2021 at 1:44 AM, Kevin Slater said:

I arrange these frequently (see my twitter, linked below).  Sum of each guy's hourly rate x the number of hours you want him.  If you want one of the guys to do the arranging, pay him an extra hour for that as well.

If you want to stretch your budget, maybe stagger the arrival times by 30 minutes and book each guy for two hours instead of four, perhaps keeping the guy who did the arranging for the whole period.

Kevin Slater

 

Definitely check out KS' Twitter. Love seeing the updates of epic orgies. Looks like complete bliss every time. Hopefully can arrange something when I'm back there. ;)

 

On 7/10/2021 at 1:44 AM, azdr0710 said:

one quick comment:  I'm wondering if a huge, busy, corporate, multi-story hotel with a huge lobby might be better for this type of scene......the guys could come and go with near-anonymity amid the crowds rather than at an exterior corridor La Quinta where things just seem so....close.....with people constantly walking right outside and the desk clerk possibly noticing lots of cars and people coming to that one room......

of course, you might need to check on keycard elevator access at that big hotel......

otherwise, make sure everybody knows the deal and what you hope to have happen.....specify no drugs (if that's important).....be honest with everybody......there won't be any cheesy porn music wafting down from the heavens (like in the movies), so you might want to set some kind of music or video up on the TV or a laptop.......have some cold water or sodas available......bring extra towels so a request to housekeeping doesn't look too suspicious??!!.......and leave a tip for the housekeeping staff, regardless of requests!......

 

Always the best scenario if there's no BNB involved. Especially hotels with no keycard access or lobby sign-in. 

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