Lots of people are still hooking up

[instudiocity]

Lol haha need to edit. Cocking...that's a entirely different matter?... Since it's just myself I just go for the steamer bags from freezer section instead of a rice cooker. Just annoying on me and amazement for others, especially 2 clients in particular who have cooked rice on the stove with a regular pot and lid in front of me while I entertain them with my stories of burnt rice or rice mush lol

You can do the cocking while I cook the rice in my InstaPot, just pour in rice & water, put the lid on, correctly, and enjoy the cocking while the InstaPot cooks the rice perfectly.

[+ Italiano]

NY is a lot more packed together population wise, and during the workday it's even more so. There's really nothing else in the US that is comparable to the NYC subway in scale and terms of sheer numbers of people passing through the same low-air-circulation space. CA way more people exercise outdoors as opposed to in crowded gym, etc.

I DO believe too that the super packed NYC subway has contributed a lot to the current situation...

[DMICS]

I think the high-rise buildings here in Chicago all have rules about no guests (including family), no food delivery beyond the lobby, no cleaning ladies, no renovation work, etc. Their workout rooms, pools, and public areas all closed.

 

Makes sense to me.

 

It's the same for some Condos here.

 

NY is a lot more packed together population wise, and during the workday it's even more so. There's really nothing else in the US that is comparable to the NYC subway in scale and terms of sheer numbers of people passing through the same low-air-circulation space. CA way more people exercise outdoors as opposed to in crowded gym, etc.

 

Nowhere in North America compares to that place right now. It's a high density city with very low green space, heavy congestion and way over populated. You have a lot of people paying $3k rent to live in a closet, being told to stay inside pretty much 24/7. So because of tight living spaces, 2-3-4 roommates, people are going outside for fresh air and packing the major parks etc.

 

No rent relief so many are forces to go to work using a subway system thats been on reduced service since the city was ordered to shut down. It's just a sad situation all around. For the most part most of my people over there are working from home or laid-off but surviving.

[+ bashful]

Here in Chicago, I’m beginning to wonder whether all this will slow down the trend of corporate relocations into the city, and suburban office parks will rebound.

[borgerback]

Any knowledge of how Hollywood Blvd was mid March? To my knowledge DC, Chicago, and LA too started talking about closing bars and restaurants at the early start of closures and that idea started to spread. I know NYC followed at least a day or two after DC in dining room/bar closures, as I traveled between both cities at that time. I was shocked seeing Spiderman and a few others still trying to get pictures taken around Times Square while I was there. Makes me wonder about the LA equivalent on the Walk of Fame

No. I'm too far south of Hollywerid. I'm behind the 'Orange Curtain' and we're probably still close to 50% suburban with yards of our own to frolic in. We did have an interesting day of confusion where the Director of Orange County Public Health issued an order that was stay-at-home for almost everyone, and then 'walked it back' the next day . . . It was a very interesting case of 'I never said that' but she did. https://www.newsbreak.com/news/0OSybNpZ/update-orange-county-walks-back-strict-health-order

[+ sniper]

Here in Chicago, I’m beginning to wonder whether all this will slow down the trend of corporate relocations into the city, and suburban office parks will rebound.

I think what will happen is this is going to go on long enough for businesses to figure out that a lot of stuff can be handled remotely, and commercial real estate is going to take a nosedive, which may spill over into residential rents falling and conversion of office space into residential, resulting in both more remote workers and more people living in the city - or more people living anywhere in the country and telecommuting to the cities where the headquarters will still be.

[+ RJD]

I think what will happen is this is going to go on long enough for businesses to figure out that a lot of stuff can be handled remotely, and commercial real estate is going to take a nosedive, which may spill over into residential rents falling and conversion of office space into residential, resulting in both more remote workers and more people living in the city - or more people living anywhere in the country and telecommuting to the cities where the headquarters will still be.

 

I’ve been saying this since the lockdown started. Everyone who can is working remotely and effectively getting their work done. Corporations/senior managers are going to realize the savings that can be realized, especially in an effort to minimize expenses during this economic downturn, and be much more receptive to the idea of permanent telecommuting. Rent/lease payments can be ridiculously expensive depending on location.

Edited April 13, 2020 by RJD

[handiacefailure]

I think what will happen is this is going to go on long enough for businesses to figure out that a lot of stuff can be handled remotely, and commercial real estate is going to take a nosedive, which may spill over into residential rents falling and conversion of office space into residential, resulting in both more remote workers and more people living in the city - or more people living anywhere in the country and telecommuting to the cities where the headquarters will still be.

 

Being employed in property management I hope that isn't the case. Fortunately we have a lot of long term leases.

 

I'm finding it to be a real pain telecommuting to be a real pain and still have to go into the office a couple days a week and finding it a even bigger pain not having any support staff to help me out.

 

A lot of our tenants are lawyers who are complaining about working remotely since they don't like doing teleconferences with clients and need to go to the courthouses and government offices to get things filed.

 

I'm hoping our restaurants can make it. Almost every restaurant tenant we have asked for rent breaks or total defferements and I'm bopping our mortgage companies are going to allow us to defer mortgage payments by four months. One good thing our governor did last week is allowing restaurants to serve two to-go cocktails with any food purchase. Part of our problem is the area where a lot of our restaurants are, they are in the CBD area and depend on a large lunch weekday crowd and even though a lot of their business was carryout to begin with, seeing most people are working remotely their business is really suffering.

[handiacefailure]

I was talking to my friend the other day, he told me his doorman was reporting guys who had “late night male visitors”. I never thought that people would be hooking up these days. Another friend told me they have a “no visitor” policy during the pandemic. I‘m on my building’s condo board, and we have never even thought about instituting this type of policy yet...believing that most residents would do the responsible thing. But, there are a lot of gays in this building. I just don‘t want any retribution...

 

I'm on our condo board and we talked about putting a rule like that into place but wasn't sure if it is legal and also no way to enforce it since we don't have a doorman but there is a camera at the locked main entrance but none of us want to babysit it. We have a couple medical professionals living here putting in long hours and they have to have someone walk and care for their dogs and have another guy who is recovering from bladder cancer who has a home health aid and physical therapist come in and also requires a cleaning lady since he is only able to use a walker.

 

I haven't had anyone in my unit since this has started. As much as I want my cleaning lady to still come, it isn't worth putting my health in danger.

 

We did send out an email asking residents to only have necessary visitors and to exercise good common sense as to who is in the building. We have a small work out area and are going to try to keep that open and have a rule of only person in there at a time and to wipe down all equipment before and after using it and it's strictly limited to residents living in the building (the owner occupied units have been great but have had a couple renters inviting their friends over to us the workout room since all the gyms are closed and another owner of a rental unit coming over and using the workout room). We also are only allowing people living in the building to use our rooftop deck and grill. I think these things are all common sense myself.

[+ sniper]

Being employed in property management I hope that isn't the case. Fortunately we have a lot of long term leases.

 

I'm finding it to be a real pain telecommuting to be a real pain and still have to go into the office a couple days a week and finding it a even bigger pain not having any support staff to help me out.

 

A lot of our tenants are lawyers who are complaining about working remotely since they don't like doing teleconferences with clients and need to go to the courthouses and government offices to get things filed.

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It's going to be industry by industry for sure. Your business and lawyers come to mind as needing physical presence for the majority of staff. But insurance back-office, which is the bulk of the employment? They can do 90% of their work from home. Agencies are a different matter. I envision corporations headquarters being for training new hires and the like, with some additional space. Maybe they reduce their foot print and have people each come in 1 day per week by department for meetings etc. It's certainly true that meetings are better in person, but it's also true that a hell of a lot of meetings could be avoided if people just read their emails...

[+ RJD]

It's certainly true that meetings are better in person, but it's also true that a hell of a lot of meetings could be avoided if people just read their emails...

 

[orville]

My sense is that most understand that this is a necessary hiatus and they’re maintaining their ads for when things return to the “new” normal. I certainly hope to help some of them out when the coast is clear.

It is refreshing to see that more escorts are starting to take the lockdown seriously, and not taking appointments to hook up with anyone, for the greater good. Some didn't wait too long and moved onto other lines of work even if part time as soon as they could (because government assistance is never enough), hoping that this won't last until past October.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Um, how about simply replacing "gay men" with "people"? Last I checked, one either likes to cook or they don't, but it has nothing to do with what gender you sleep with.

 

Not necessarily, because I’m not just talking about people. I’m talking specifically about gay men, and how it pertains to our daily lives. If I wanted to hear about people, I could sit and watch the news and hear about all the “people” who are affected. But fact of the matter is, single “non-married” people without families, which include most gay guys, don’t cook.

 

There was even a post on Twitter by a guy who was saying Wendy’s turned him and another guy away, because their lobby was closed and it was drive in only. Compound that with the fact many gay guys in the certain cities may not drive...

 

It wasn’t meant to be stereotypical or “gay-ist” in any way. I’m speaking based on the fact I’ve known many guys, who happen to be gay, who don’t cook. Their refrigerators are filled with microwavables and drinks. I’ve known guys who eat out 2-3 times a day. Whether they know how to cook, or do so for convenience is not necessarily relevant. I know for ME, when I travel I don’t cook at all, except once in a blue when there’s a hotel with a kitchenette. So when the restaurants started not allowing people to sit down, that was a big deal for me. I had to eat most of my meals in the car, and when traveling...inconvenient would be an understatement.

 

If we’re going to talk about real issues, I’m going to say it specifically as it pertains to us. I’m not going to sugarcoat it, because the news is only going to tell you what you want to hear. I’m going to say it like it actually is. And gay guys who don’t know how to cook, and who hook up during a social distancing order, is how it actually is lol.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

I never thought I’d agree with one of your posts, ever... but today, I do ☺️??

 

And I truly empathize with everyone out here trying to earn a living, during this pandemic disaster.

 

However, what made me give Jarrod the “side eye,” was the cavalier attitude of “Hey, if you are my client and you catch the Coronavirus from me, well that ain’t my problem...” I just think that’s shady as hell. ?

 

Had he said something along the lines of “look, I have bills to pay, and although I understand the risks, I’m trying my best to secure the week being of myself and my clients.” I would have given him less grief.

 

Now don’t go putting words in my mouth. I said in response to a hypothetical scenario, that it would not be my fault...and it wouldn’t. In that scenario, did I knock on someones door and walk in uninvited, or did someone contact me and ask me to come over/or come over themselves?

 

And that even assumes the escort tested positive for it, was contagious, and the client didn’t visit anyone else: friends/family coming over or grocery shopping themselves. So yeah, I still call BS on it...and I’m going to keep calling BS on it everytime it comes up. The scenario is 1 sided, because it assumes someone meeting is doing so:

 

1. With ill intent.

2. The escort is the one infected, but not the client.

3. That it’s a forced meeting

4. He is knowingly infected

5. The virus is actually existent (in either person)

 

It’s about as ridiculous as the stigmatizing and blame that would exist towards a gay man who’s HIV positive (omg how dare he exchange numbers with me and not tell me he’s HIV positive!). Which I’m glad over the years, seems to be fading. But now we have something new to stigmatize people over ?

Edited April 14, 2020 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Jarrod_Uncut]

I'm late coming into this thread. A lot of people are condemning @Jarrod_Uncut for continuing to work. Jarrod defends himself by making a lot of analogies (which don't quite work, but I won't get into it) and by citing financial necessity (which I sympathize with).

 

The point I'd like to make is that plenty of people, already millions and tens of millions more to come, are in Jarrod's situation. Government assistance isn't enough for many to get by. Government protections (e.g., deferred student loan payments, bans on evictions) will help for the time being, but you still owe the money. Sure you can wag your finger & reprimand them for not saving more, but that doesn't change their current situation.

 

In other words, financial desperation is real and spreading like wildfire. Do I wish everyone would respect social distancing? Of course. But I won't judge anyone who breaks social distancing because they need to survive. These aren't a bunch of Florida spring-breakers.

 

Thankyou for understanding. But honestly whether people here approve or “try” to condemn me is of least concern. If so, the anger is misdirected, considering there’s a vast majority of people all over who are still making themselves available to hook up (I’m on prep has been replaced by, COVID-19 negative). And as I’ve said before, there’s still no law around saying 2 people can’t meet in the comfort of their own home. People are over-applying the orders, with no gavel or a heaven or hell to put me in lol.

 

The orders are simply meant to keep down on large groups of public gatherings.

 

In my case, I’m not necessarily taking clients out of desperation, but I’m doing so to prevent me from getting to that point. I don’t want to have to be desperate. I’ve been there, and don’t want to go back.

 

Right now is an opportune time because I’ve noticed timewasters are down, and people are actually scheduling appointments like they’re supposed to. When they see we’re out here taking risks, it’s serious. It’s not a game. There’s no unemployment checks, there’s no business bailout loans. If and when that $1,200 stimulus check arrives, it’s going straight to the relocation expenses I’ve not been able to set aside this year.

 

I definitely can’t “stay home” considering my “home” environment is far from ideal, and my current base town wasn’t great biz wise even before COVID-19. So I usually travel 1 to 2 times month, even if it’s just 3 hours away. To be frank, I consider myself quasi-homeless by design at the moment, because I really can’t tolerate being “home” for more than a week straight, before things start getting hostile.

 

At this point, keeping my sanity is of greater concern, than the fear of a virus and it’s accompanying “what if’s”. I sat in a hospital room for 5 days straight last month, not attributed to COVID-19 (and I’m pretty sure the virus has come and gone thru my system by now, before social distancing orders were announced, considering the amount of crowds I’ve been exposed to, hotels I’ve stayed in, states I’ve traveled to since Super Bowl weekend), I’ll be damned to sit around confined, and be empty handed; week, after week, after week. I’d rather die, than to not be able to live my life. That’s like being in hostage or detained with no idea of when you’re getting out, aka prisoner in your own home.

 

But again, that’s what the news isn’t going to tell people. I’ve already read somewhere domestic violence has gone up 40% since this. But the news not going to tell you the whole story behind why some home environments are toxic, and compound that with financial trouble. Last thing some people may want to do is stay inside...

Edited April 14, 2020 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Guest JakeAsherXXX]

I honestly can't wait until I get stuffed again. Seriously.

[bostonman]

I honestly can't wait until I get stuffed again. Seriously.

 

I'm not really into "getting stuffed," but I do miss intimacy big time.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

I honestly can't wait until I get stuffed again. Seriously.

 

Taxidermy is truly a great hobby.

[AJ Doyle]

I blacklisted those with their rentmen ads on, not using the freeze or covid19 options. There are some who are even traveling. It’s frankly irresponsible and insulting to clients.

I froze my ad but I still get requests. I try to be nice but a few times I've Not and messaged back..."Did Gavin lift the stay at home order and Forget to Tell Me!??" LOL

[AJ Doyle]

Maybe this doesn't belong on this thread, but has any escort tried applying for unemployment in their state? In theory, "gig workers" should be eligible, subject to having some kind of documentation of income. I assume most escorts are like me, and filed taxes for years as a self-employed whatever. That solves the short-term income problem, in theory.

CA is making us wait till April 28 to apply as self employed gig workers, but we will be getting back pay.

[+ RJD]

Taxidermy is truly a great hobby.

 

Someone with a great sense of humor is a huge turn-on for me and is one of the reasons I want to meet @Benjamin_Nicholas at some point. I needed a good laugh this morning.

[RealAvalon]

Is this in the USA as well? Grindr has removed 'ethnicity' as one of it's filters. No more screening out white guys (I'm being ironic).

[RealAvalon]

Is this in the USA as well? Grindr has removed 'ethnicity' as one of it's filters. No more screening out white guys (I'm being ironic).

[Rudynate]

Darwin was correct, The fittest mindS survive....

 

 

"Survival of the Wisest," as Jonas Salk said.

[+ DynamicUno]

Is this in the USA as well? Grindr has removed 'ethnicity' as one of it's filters. No more screening out white guys (I'm being ironic).

 

I don't have Grindr premium, but the option is still there on Android in the list of paid filter options. Maybe it is in the works but hasn't been pushed out yet. Scruff has removed the 'ethnicity' filter which they announced several days ago.

 

Now if only they could do something about all those guys 'from [insert city, state] in the army on peacekeeping assignment in [insert country name] desperately seeking a serious committed relationship and just want to talk on google Hangouts'.