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That definitely sounds nice. But on the other spectrum: I lived in Arizona for 2 months and did find the continuous sunny weather to get a bit: weird lol. And I spent time in SoCal and only seen it rain like once. BUT: after a few Midwest winters I see now why majority of my classmates in grade school in Florida were from Michigan, Illinois, Connecticut, New York, Ohio, etc. I was barely able to get out of Kentucky because the roads were like skiing trails. Lot of people probably couldn’t leave town for Christmas. I was getting alerts from this all night yesterday: If I ever do move back to a year round warm place…I will never complain about Sunny weather again. I got to feel the sun burning on my face today while driving (even though it was only 10 degrees outside) for the first time in weeks 😆

Other thing too: All of the north becomes a big bowl of Frosted Flakes when the weather doesn’t cooperate. The snow from this week threw off most all my possibilities for the weekend in several cities. Squeezed in a few meets before the weather turned to shit, but now that it’s come and dumped on everyone, everything is dead. My RentMen messenger is just people requesting private pics unlocked only. And keep getting the same request to a hotel in town, from guys who won’t respond back. Winter is the devil. Even Florida is sounding real good right now 😆

Very common in L.A. Add that to the flaky city list. But I think that’s common in big cities. Idk what it is. I know that dealing with paid ventures online tends to inaccurate portray the possibilities of a city. Sometimes I do better off just going to a club and meeting someone, but without sex work being the intent more as a backdrop. I know the intent is good, but Idk if I would say that you met with another provider. Though it is honest and can help someone take other opportunities, not sure when that would be the best time to mention. What if the other provider flakes last minute? Then you have to go back to the other guy and say that fell thru and to come over? I think as I’ve mentioned in the past, I still think deposits could help clients and provider. Something like, “I can send you a deposit to confirm our session, but if you have to cancel it…can you send it back?” That way it gives them option to decide if they can actually duly accept the booking or not. Of course, this is assuming perfect world and that everyone is not playing games. I know that can be hard to tell.

It is, you’re right. But Grindr isn’t sex work. If I used Grindr solely to earn money, I would be in bad shape. It’s hard enough getting it for free, even harder to get it paid. And even when I do strike it lucky and meet someone, the quality of the meet is often low. Grindr is mostly an illusion cloaked in possibilities. You can spend way more time chatting to 20 people, than just 1 person booking a session. Plus it’s (mostly) all free. And free means anybody with no intentions can sign up and: waste people’s time 👏🏽 Also many people are on Grindr for the wrong reasons. I don’t believe it should be used as a free instant brothel service like many guys do. I don’t go on, “because I’m suddenly horny” like @Jamie21 mentioned some guys do. That’s what porn is for. The occasional times I do go on, it’s more like: “I want to see what compatible guy is in this area. And hopefully we can connect and enjoy each other’s company at some point” The times I’ve gone on trying to get laid, is rarely ever satisfying. I get better results paying for ads and meeting clients who have a true appreciation for my talent. I used to have better luck at nightclubs, blackplanet, adam4adam, and even the PHONE CHAT lines like megaphone back in the early 2000s 😆

Special request to where? Please elaborate…

sounds intricate, but could have been a way to make that workout somehow. Perhaps as described within that time frame, however “a la carting” them in that manner I think probably seemed a bit much. If you’re going to hire a couple, hire them both. Or one or the other. Payment stuff aside, I’ve learned how couples work over the years. I don’t usually approach them to begin with BUT, when they approach me I already know: it’s rare to have one without the other in the precise manner you want to have them. Unless the other is a woman and other party is 💯 gay. Partly why I don’t really seek them out. One isn’t going to let you sneak off with the other, or meet with the other first and then join in midway. The hiring separate part is moreso a COMPLETE separate thing, not necessarily to be done halfway thru the movie

You can add Kansas City and St. Louis to that list. It’s one of the areas with the most bad reports, and the same time wasters hit me up over and over and over again. I thought I blocked them, change phones and show up again. One in St. Louis, I sent a $1,000 cash app request to after he tried to book me again after flaking 4-5 other times. He seemed shocked. I wonder why 🤔 Hopefully this time he stays away for good. And being in KC, it’s just people who can never coordinate anything. Someone contacted me today asking if I’m available for him to come over tonight. I send him the instructions to book me if I host and he’s like, “next time”. I’m like, well if you can host and have hotel info to verify I can do it that way also. He’s like, “I am in hotel but can’t host”. They rarely do things conducive to booking a session. They’re always expecting last minute accommodations, but have the least flexibility. But also; some cities change. My first trip to Phoenix years ago (maybe 2012ish), I cancelled halfway there because everybody on my follow up list flaked. But then it took a few trips over the months before it finally started working out (I was living in Denver and the closest place to escape winter was either Phoenix or Las Vegas) However, I’ve seen it go back and forth between dragging and being lucrative on different visits. Hard to tell when. Like, some cities you have to “play” over and over again and hit it at the right season. Kind of how football teams do, hint hint @BuffaloKyle lol

Who knows. Best to just have your protective policy in place. Whether that be deposits, confirmation and instructions by a certain time, etc. Also Austin is just a pocket of liberal in a much bigger surrounding. I was thinking it’s the “biggest little city” but that’s actually Reno I was thinking of (which also is flaky as fuck city). Again, gay acceptance and visibility don’t always mean much and can actually work against the cause. It can also translate to: “Yeah we’re gay and open and proud, and I will give you my goods for free! You should do the same!”

For me it depends. I live in an area where I’m not interested in majority of the guys who reach out to me for hookups. So when I’m home I’m usually just escorting. Not trying to hook up with the ever-horny White guys who don’t believe in paying, but just want to trade nudes all day and take forever to actually meet (not to pull the race card but that’s just the truth in certain areas of the Midwest). I’m not one who hooks up just to get off. I have to feel there’s a purpose or story behind it. Even if it’s spontaneous, there can still be some sort of interesting lead to it. I hooked up with 3 guys at a Nude resort/camp last year, but each one were just funny and cool and they actually had more to say than just, “hung?” and a bunch of ass/dick pics. Hookups can be more satisfying in the short run but escorting is more fulfilling to me overall. I know our business favors the no strings approach, but in my personal life I look for a little more involved.

I was discussing this elsewhere about Nashville. I rarely make visits there much except once a year for a couple days. But the market there is definitely bottoms up (no pun intended). Being that you included Austin, in my experience it seems it’s often the “entertainment” cities that have this issue the most. Las Vegas, Miami included. Also towns that have experienced housing crisis/shortages like Nashville and Austin are also prone to it. And then when you add the fact that there’s more escorts than the city can actually accommodate (when I lived in Nashville and was doing somewhat decent for myself, there were only like 5 escorts. Even then it was feast and famine. Now there’s like 50 and it’s fell off completely). That said, it’s so many places that are becoming like that lately. I haven’t really found any 1 flake proof city these days. I have pretty much had to run the same policy in every city. However it is hard when some places with very conservative demographics don’t want to pay deposits or anything. Had that happen in one town, and since neither wanted to send a deposit and wanted the same time: I booked them both in case one flaked, and they both showed up. Literally. Not something I’d normally do or recommend, but it was quite the adventure 😆

I haven’t heard of a week prior cancellation policy before though. Was this a resort/vacation home? Considering there’s no travel bans or quarantine laws anymore, there’s no reason to cancel because of Covid and can’t imagine they would.

Which do you find to get more biz for you? Idk if some clients are shy to say RentMen, but it seems many of my bookings are coming from RentMasseur. Which is surprising considering it’s where nudes can’t be posted. However I also feel most of the contacts from RentMasseur are low expectations (last minute, flaky, only available 1 day etc.) compared to RentMen, but overall I just get fewer inquiries. I feel it’s hard for me to run one without the other though. However, it does contribute to extra expense especially when they tend to be due in the same week. And it’s not likely that when I renew: I’ll have a new client from it right away always. I know some of it may be market dependent. As I’ve said before, my markets in the Midwest where I’ve been based, have been pretty dead lately anyway on all the platforms.

Well that’s a great example of why I don’t like to play around on deposits: Those same unwavering hotel policies get dished out to us as well. That said, I wish RentMen would display our rates. I’m barely even getting enough bookings from RM much in my area. Most everybody is calling from RentMasseur asking for a massage instead of escort service. My RM ad is due and I am debating when I’ll be able to renew it. Not worth getting Basic unless it’s just very few people in your city.

https://www.hotelengine.com/hotel-room-pricing/ Clients may get shocked when announcing a price change or update. I especially think it’s unreasonable when some think 2-3-10 years later: The price they paid back then, is sufficient now. And by all means: that’s different than say, wanting a more basic service than before where a discount may be customary. Since providers are similar in ways to travel and accommodations (flights, rental cars do the same thing of course), it matters. Sometimes I want to charge more for incalls when I’m in my home town because it’s more involved, or I may want to charge more for outcalls when I’m traveling and have to leave the hotel I’ve already booked. But when I want to switch it around, some try to make it seem like greed. So let it be known: Booking a companion could be like booking a hotel. Today’s deal, is not yesterday’s deal☝

The hard part, is convincing some of the more attractive Middle aged men to get the idea. I sent a guy who I met some years ago in Nashville a video with my RentMen watermark (and for the record, idk why there’s dozens of escorts advertising in that town anymore. I used to go and book up clients, now I’m lucky to get 1 or 2 bookings and all the clients have a shitty attitude). He’s like, what’s RentMen? So some of these people aren’t even aware. Then when I mention the content I sell he throws some catty comment about “maybe charging me to come over”. I told him what he didn’t want to hear and must have hurt his lil feelings because haven’t heard from him since lol. So I haven’t met him since like 3-4 years ago, but he wants me to keep exchanging more pics/vids for free? And here’s the kicker: he’s like, “I’m not looking to hookup 🤦🏾‍♂️ But he just wants to use me for free material trading.

If paid sex goes out of business, then so would drugs, alcohol, weed and sporting events. I think what does affect more than anything, is peoples perceptions. One reason I am finding hookup apps more repulsive, is the majority in there have an expected perception that gay sex should be free. Anytime someone does differently, it bruises their fragile ego. They want free pics, free vids, free time, free everything. And it’s not that free is bad IF it’s balanced. It’s their lack of appreciation and entitlement is fucked up. (I have known guys who hookup with men who are much better off financially, yet leave empty handed). Also let’s be real: I know of many clients who have their “free sex” options, but they still come around and spend for what they want. I understand economy talks but, I think things need to be taken more into consideration. Remember how many guys were dropping out during the initial Covid lockdowns and such? Well: that actually happened to be some of my best months. Hotels were cheap, clients were out of work or if they had businesses they closed them to get their hands on “other” things 😆

I thought we were already been in a recession technically since the summer. But I guess not: https://www.forbes.com/advisor/investing/are-we-in-a-recession/ It’s seems we’ve been back and forth in a recession ever since Covid, when Tr**p got elected, When B**en got elected, etc. Recessions seem to happen every year. And in our biz it’s almost like every month there’s a recession depending on who does or doesn’t gets paid 😆 Idk exactly what recession everyone is speculating on. If talking about a big housing market crash type of recession, then…idk. Maybe that’ll be a good thing if it can lower rents back down to Pre-2016 levels when everything seemed to have went berserk. Get those 2003 rent prices back, and maybe then I’ll consider charging only $150 😆

I can agree with the personal website thing, (having one myself obviously) but idk about the employment into part. A deposit and name should be ample enough. That’s like a hotel asking for employment info. I’m staying for a night, not a year lol. There are a handful of guys, more than 2 who have their own website. I think if it’s less common is because many only view it as a side hustle thing and rely on just the main sites.

Right, and even beyond a service industry: it should also be viewed as similar to planning things with family and friends. I know most wouldn’t accept some lousy half assed invite without raising a brow. Especially the person in the original post, it’s like why bother to inform me of plans if you’re just going to do everything your way with no input from me? And then get upset when it doesn’t work out. I know some things can/can’t be avoided, but shitty invites, leads to shitty planning. Luckily I had 1 sponsor and another regular who was able to make up for it. That client has been permanently filed to the shit pile 🚮

Or worse: go to bed hungry! lol And what really got me was: this client was like, “well I told you yesterday I was traveling to xxx city today”. Ummmmmm, sir, you only told me, when I contacted you first. And telling me the day before, for a location in another STATE is not ample notice. Especially when he told me Saturday he could be in 2 different cities on 2 different days, and waited until Wednesday to say which one. Like Gordon Ramsay would say: GTFO 🦶🏾 out! Last week Thanksgiving weekend (it’s an American thing, that once had a dark colonial beginning but now everyone expected to be happy and cheerful around annoying family members they don’t always like…still don’t know why they do it 500 years later lol), but anyway yeah; it’s a 4 or 5 day holiday in America. I had 3 clients, made decent money but: they all wanted to meet the same day they contacted. BUT, they gave somewhat decent notice and weren’t pushed for time. One did push us to the next morning, due to weather and I was okay with that. However, one was like: “hurry”. I said no: I asked you hours ago to confirm and send the deposit and you didn’t. And I told him, I’m not even getting dressed until I receive the deposit or room information. He understood.

I’m beginning to feel a need to stop accepting many of these types. It seems troublesome to try and book visits. No offense to anyone who fits these attributes. I’m referring to the ones who can’t compromise on time, always busy with work/travel/family affairs, can only ever offer one limited option to meet, despite me willing to being flexible (usually just have 1 day at 1 time available, etc). The “I can only meet between 1 and 2 p.m.” types. Ran into this with a return client I haven’t seen in awhile. Partly because most times we try to meet, it’s always something he has to work around. We were trying to meet in the same city, and he gave me 2 date possibilities in 2 different cities. But no confirmation of either. When I contact a few days to follow back up to see what’s he considering, he’s like: “I’m going to xxx tomorrow, and I have a room booked”. I’m thinking, WOW that’s a day earlier than planned (and I couldn’t leave that same day because I had doctor visit/packing to do). I thought he would check with me first, and coordinate which day/location would be best. But because of something that changed on his end, he decided to go earlier. Long story short: he gets to the city before me, and then can only stay 1 night only. I’m like, okay…but it’s going to need to be no pressures on arriving by a certain time. However, he seemed impatient like he can’t meet too late, and wants to get on his way home first thing in the morning. On the way, I end up with a punctured tire: which equated to a 3 hour delay. Of course he canceled. I ask if he can stay an extra day, he started being a bitch about it like he can’t, blah blah blah. I’m thinking to myself: this is just too much drama. I like clients who are flexible, aren’t always trying to cram a million things in and book an escort at the same time. Sure they have things to do but if I miss them one day, they’re always open to extend to the next or following. High Maintenance clients often seem to be under the erroneous impression that booking an escort means it should be easy as in: making them revolve around their schedule. Some like to say, “this is more complicated than I thought”. No…you are unavailable but expecting to include another life and schedule to work around it. THAT is complicated. Then, they get attitude at me and make me feel like I’m to blame, when in reality: they never had the basic courtesy to ASK ME and work with each OTHERS schedule in the first place. They just expect to plan things haphazardly, on their time, and expect it to all work out. It doesn’t. I understand this isn’t all clients, and I know this is especially common with the married clients. But: how am I to plan and be ready for something, that I’m not being given sufficient notice to expect to begin with? I texted my client from earlier: “If you trying to meet in a different city, it’s not going to work if everything is only on 1 person’s time demands. You’re not just dealing with 1 person.” Unless of course, a person wants to go f**k theirselves 😆

I’m talking in general: moreso the pics in my ad.

Well I know one thing: I’ve decided that because of this, I’m going back to limiting how much free “material” I’m putting out there. If someone hasn’t booked an appointment, then they really shouldn’t be seeing all of what I offer anyway. I don’t want for things to revert to what men4rent once did (disallowed any nude pics in ads), however: I’m seeing less merit in “barring it all” on my ads. RentMasseur already has it set up that way, and I seem to get more clients from it sometimes than RentMen. I even wrote an email to them sharing my opinion. I’ve said long time ago we should get some form of “credit” whenever clients look at our private pics. Their paying for a membership doesn’t necessarily put money in our pockets. And having nude pics out waiting around for people to book appointments, is too much of a stipulation. Sometimes, I feel we are moreso advertising to each other versus actual clients. Escorts are getting frustrated at potential clients because they are seeing the goods, without actually having to book an appointment, and that’s just not fair. That’s why I’m getting out of the rat race. People are booking appointments, and then cancelling on us for shit reasons that don’t have anything to do with us. Meanwhile, we get paid $0 for the content that we put out. That’s why I just don’t have time for the bullshit. The idea of getting less clients with deposits does get uncomfortable especially during slow times. But trying to win over dudes who aren’t committed to booking, is time consuming.

hmm, hmm… I just know from my personal experience having been to many cities in the US. Now San Francisco has often been a good place because it is a large market AND a large GB population as well. My experience is NOT small town, let’s back up and be clear on that. I’ve been to every major city in the country except for New York, and I actually did go there but I didn’t set up shop because I wasn’t really getting the hits I wanted. I’m not making shit up in my head. I’ve been to small cities and popped 4 clients in one day. I’ve been to big cities like Chicago and Atlanta, most times I’ve gone I only get 1 maybe 2 clients if I’m lucky within a 2-3 day period and that’s it. The only major cities I’ve found to have steady hits have been San Francisco and Washington DC, and occasionally Phoenix and Milwaukee for smaller markets. But L.A., Miami, etc. haven’t been good since maybe 2008 when things were less expensive and it wasn’t as saturated with guys. I’m not saying someone or myself can’t go to those cities and still make a decent amount or meet any clients, but it’s not like I’m ever like: “let me plan a trip to this big city, and make $10,000 “. Because I know 50 other guys are going with the same aspirations, and at any given time there may only be a handful clients actively booking. That’s where things get scientific. You have to think bigger than just population numbers, and think real time logistics.

Well, in fact I do: but after a recent experience last week, I feel I may step back from spending time on clients who aren’t booking. I reached out to one guy who seemed like he was going to book me, but never seemed to be able to take the step. Would say, “work is busy, maybe/hopefully sometime this week, blah blah blah”. I reach out to him a few weeks later, he finally is able to squeeze in a time, the same day I contacted him. But then, he gets in the hotel room, doesn’t know what he wants, then decides to end the session 10 minutes in. Make it worse: charges back the amount he paid me shortly after. And I actually ASKED HIM to pay me the rest of the amount with cash. In which he nearly cancelled the visit, saying he could only pay with card. So now, I’m going to consider those type of people red flags. I want to work with people, but it seems in this biz: hesitation breeds contempt. And I can’t be bothered with people like that, because their motives are sketchy. I hear this out 100%, and I’m seeing evident now that small towns with few/no escorts aren’t all opportunity as it seems. There’s one city I normally do great in, located in the Midwest: The past 2 visits have been dismal, and I’ve had other visits like that as well over the past year. I almost considered moving there, but glad I didn’t because it’s proven to only be a place to visit once or twice a year. Going regularly has started becoming less profitable. I’m definitely growing bored of smaller towns. However it’s hard to tell which bigger cities with lots of escorts can work out. Some places like Dallas and Atlanta have too many guys advertising than what the client pool can offer. I think most of the United States is too saturated with guys escorting in most all the larger cities. That’s why I have been gravitating to smaller towns, but the above situation is an example of someone from a smaller town: sometimes small town fucks like to try and scam providers out of money because they harbor racist or homophobic tendencies of their own. As far as it being YOU, as in ME: I can’t necessarily say one way or the other. Maybe it is me: I know I have burned bridges with a few clients in my area: But only if they were regularly inflexible, wouldn’t keep their word whenever they reached out, cancelled last minute/short notice, always wanted to book last minute/short notice, wouldn’t ever give me any advance notice even when asked, etc etc. That said, I’m definitely trying to find a bigger market regardless. I just can’t stay where I currently am working Kansas City and St. Louis. I’m literally relying on just 2 or 3 regulars. And even the surrounding areas I travel to haven’t been performing well lately. So I need a whole new regional change from this area.