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Hmm…meh 🫤 I mean, it is what it is. I don’t think it’s much point in resurfacing a situation with someone that never received proper closure. At the end of the day: sorry that it happened regardless, but who knows what the actual reason could have been. Of course, it sounds like a different time. We weren't dating, we were just fucking. But at the same time, that’s the whole point I’m addressing. It doesn’t have to be dating to get respect. I’m “just fucking” people all the time, but it doesn’t mean I can’t set some level of boundaries. And that includes: no private calls, no appointments without exchanging numbers, no (new or me having to host) appointments without deposits. And not too much showing up at the last minute without informing me. I understand that sounds like being an insufferable bitch 😆 But it’s really not. It’s simply that I’ve done all that in the past, on more than 1 occasion, and concluded that settling for those situations don’t lead to healthy boundaries. I already have to settle with A LOT of shit already, but I do have my limits. I used to f**k a (bi-discreet) married guy years ago. I still used to come over to his place, know where he worked, and had his number. All basic things to ensure either of us wouldn’t be untraceable had we been missing lol. We just made it work.

Not really because as far as I know: it’s not a “sex workers” disease any more than it’s a “gay” disease. I feel if someone leaves or reduces biz because of whatever the latest virus in circulation comes up: then they should hold the same standards to hookup apps or other gay spaces as well. But as far as I know: people are still frequenting those platforms as well.

I hear what you’re saying, but here’s the thing: y’all were fuck buddies. Meaning you guys had a regular thing going and probably had a bit of a conditioning that it was okay to hookup on short notice. In quote: “if I happened to be home when he called and he asked to come over within the half hour, my answer was never no. Why would it be when he was so damned hot?” I’ll tell you why (in fact I’m think you said it): because the very last time we met I returned his call via *69. He answered but seemed angry that I had found out where he worked by returning his call, and even though he came over that afternoon and we had fun I never saw him again. See the disrespect? He was all fine and dandy long as he had the say in when to connect. Once you attempted the terms, suddenly it wasn’t okay…and he cut the connection. That’s why you should have said no. That’s why I say no. It can’t be just all about them just because it’s a paid session. It has to be a mutual thing. Idk why some people don’t get it. I understand sex can be spontaneous. That’s not the problem. In fact, with this client mentioned, I gave him a same day/last minute apppintment the 1st time we met. The problem comes when I give a person 1 chance to do something unplanned: then they do it again, and again. And have no respect for my time if I can’t do it in that moment. And when I try to schedule them any later/sooner than NOW, they can’t do it. Well too bad. Should of planned better. Why is it suddenly my problem that they horny 14 months after the last time we met, but you can’t host and/or travel and can’t meet past 3 pm? It’s that type of stuff, I just don’t get. I want things to go smoothly, and have a good time and enjoy: but I can’t do it if I’m being stressed and pressured by people to do things that are simply inconvenient. I’m not a huge planner myself, I get it. But at least allude to the provider (without making no show bookings) that you intend to see them in the future. Idk why it’s so hard to say: “hey Jarrod, I can’t book you now but I am eyeing your ad and will be in contact with you one of these days. It might not be much notice, but I will shoot you a text the day before/morning of if I think I can swing it. Hope to meet soon!” Then that alone will help avoid unnecessary false starts or “ignorant” surprises.

It’s ridiculous. Some days it’s nothing but people jumping at the idea of an appointment, but non actually going thru with anything. I’m especially tired of these last minute, can’t host MoFos who have to meet by 3 p.m. That’s why I know guys who are working regular gigs aren’t seeing many clients because, if you can’t see clients before 5 p.m. in many areas: you pretty much won’t even get anything at all. It seems like the evening business men at the hotel crowd is non existent in many markets. All it is, are just guys who have 1 hour to sneak away, and they never know or plan ahead: Fortunently, some people learn to get it. I had to lecture 1 client multiple times: I don’t care if you live 1 block from me: You can’t just hit me up out the blue, when you feel like coming over and then only give me 45 minutes beforehand. EVERY TIME. Send deposit, and arrange a day or 2 ahead. Last week I was in a different area and had no problem doing that. (Most) Escorts are not stores. We are individual people just like family and friends who have lives too. Some of these people either have no common sense, or do it out of spite. It’s one or the other. Would they be ready if I just called them up and asked to come over? I already know the answer: never. So don’t EVER expect me to lol.

You’re correct, and I’ll clarify: I generally do state that it means I’m available TODAY, not necessarily “now”. However, if someone sees “available now” it’s no reason to be redundant and ask if I’m available. That is ignorant. At least have common sense to form an actual conversation that doesn’t start with asking if I’m available. Like, “hey it’s so and so and we met last year, I see you’re available and I can be as well. Can we arrange to meet again?” All this sloppy lazy shit lately in certain cities, I’m so fed up with. I’m cancelling my line and switching to just a number with bare minimum texts or call features to it. No point in paying all this money a month just to have my time wasted on the weekly 😤

Lol, that gave me a laugh. I have to admit many of my pictures aren’t smiling. Why? Because photographers often make us NOT smile lol. It can tend to look cheesy and tacky. Don’t ask me why, but even if you look at certain model shoots, you will OFTEN (but not always) find someone Not smiling. Example: I don’t smile in all of my pics because it can be hard to strike that balance of “sexy smirk/smile” without looking like a weirdo lol.

And notice also: even though it’s $1,500 a night, if it’s split between 25 people: that’s only $60 a night. With 40 people, that’s only $37.50 a night. Much less than the $150, 200, $400 a night places many cities have gotten to. Just get everyone to put in their share before the time and everything turn out great.

I think I need to make the step too. Even previously met clients are turning out to be assholes and time wasters. Like just today: a client I met last year in June contacts me asking if I have availability today (sometimes I wonder if they do that to be ignorant because it said I’m “available now”). I was available, but I ask if he can host. He’s like, no I can’t host this time. I tell him what I need in order to confirm hosting sessions. Then he’s like, oh I can’t do it today. Can I do it Monday. I’m like, yea I can. No response I reply back again, it’ll just need to be confirmed the day before because it’s a holiday. Then he’s like, oh I can’t do that day I forgot it was a holiday. All the while not offering any alternative. It’s that type of stupidity I can’t be bothered with. I gave him a brief lecture and put a report under his number. Why the fuck someone ask me for a session today, if he can’t do it today? Then they aren’t flexible, ask on the day of out the blue after having not contacted me in over a year, and then can’t be bothered to follow the most basic instructions. If they can’t host, then they need to be willing to work around what that person requires to be allowed into their space. You don’t just assume you can barge into my space after not having spoken to me in a year. Fool. Some of these people are idiots.

On the other spectrum of this, is the G***r app (I have to bleep out the name because I despise it that much, despite being on there and now only using it to network “potential” clients (because let’s face it, I feel that app has affected the market to a degree, and I’ve stopped using it to find decent men anymore because most on there just want a free escort). But yeah, the ones who usually only have 1 or 2 pics and ESPECIALLY faceless pics (even if they send a face pic privately) are 99% flakes. So I would imagine it would be better to meet those who give an ample window of themselves. At the same time, it sometimes starts to feel like it’s gone beyond trying to get clients, and more towards who has the best picture port. Like an x rated version of model mayhem (which I recently got banned from after years on the platform for uploading nudes).

One thing I’ve noticed in many guys ads lately, especially the ones who seem to pop up out of nowhere: it’s often there’s only no more than 10 pictures in the ad. RentMen does allow like 50 in the main ad and I think 100 between private and public. It has me wondering because I knew someone couple years ago (who hired me) state something like, “maybe you have too many pictures, and people are seeing everything they need and are less likely to be serious” (even though I don’t particularly buy that philosophy, as it sounds a bit assuming). Plus, I often see some of the longest term providers who have a multiple portfolio of pics across their site. But it is making me consider though. Why are some guys using only 8-10 pictures? Some even aren’t showing nudes. However, something about it gives me a idea that those types have “flake potential”. When I read up on clients being stood up, I am curious to know whether anybody has seen any correlation in the amount of pics one may have over the other. Does fewer pic usually result in flake, or does more pics? Is there a sweet spot? I personally put out only 20-25 pictures at a time. Since I have the portfolio to share. But I’m now thinking of dropping that number a bit…wondering if I’m just doing “too much”. It becomes a point where, am I actually needing to advertise this much, considering most clients only ever send 1 or 2 pics (if any) of themselves? Maybe the RentMen market is just becoming too much of an overload on potential clients 😞 That’s why I was amazed the Craigslist 1 picture in erotic section years ago, was the best thing because I would get so many hits off just 1 picture.

I think the idea of a “regional” meetup that’s centered around the idea of the gathering in Coachella valley could also be a good way to get more involved. In the Midwest, there’s even a few locations. Eureka Springs, Arkansas could serve as a nice spot with a “outdoor/hiking” theme to it. I’ve also suggested the idea of renting Reunion homes or “cabins” (which in some areas, a cabin is basically a reunion home in the woods) versus fussing with separate accommodations: however that probably won’t be the best fit if there’s more than 12-20 people attending. That said: Part of what makes the PS event work is the expanse of hotels and resorts, restaurants, nightlife and climate. It’s also small enough to be close to everything. Having the option to move around is good. I recall last year I was at a nude campground in Dade City for a few days. Though you really didn’t need to leave the campground for anything, I think everyone had a bit “cabin feverish” by the end of it all because unless you drove, you were pretty much stuck in that space (nothing was in walking distance outside of the park). But it also made for the opportunity to stay focused on the event, because we didn’t have outside distractions. Speaking of which: here’s a good example of reunion home I had in mind:

Well after arguing for almost an hour or so and me having to escalate the situation: I finally got him to agree to pay half of what was “probably” going to happen. I think one thing that should be added to our list of “wish I would have known” is, “must have prior debt collection experience”. Because these mother foers be almost adamant that they don’t owe anything. Like, they just ordered a whole entree+appetizers and never came by to pay for it. And funny thing is, since he seen me before (over a year ago) he claims he never read my profile. Which includes very pertinent info to book the session. It’s good that he understood why there was an expectation, but I just don’t be having time for the BS. If I’m going to leave my number up on any of these sites, I’m just going to have to send one text explaining everything and what to do, and see who follows thru. I’ve already done it like 2-3 times today. A professional written response with simple instructions: many don’t reply. For all I know, they’re probably contacting everybody. Half the time they don’t even offer any details or info off the top. Like this message: That says absolutely nothing. I have no idea a name, city (I advertise in more than 1). And once again that word: “probably”. Travel to me where??? You don’t even know where I am at, nor do I know where he is at 🤦🏽‍♂️ Then they wonder why they get a pre-written template response. I had to send those out like 3 times today, and they don’t bother to respond. If they can’t even get the first step handled, how can I trust and believe they can get any further than that?

Right. And they definitely do slip thru. Case in point: This guy said he was going to let me know a day, and send the deposit. And nothing. Nothing until after the fact when I ASKED. This is why I don’t even want to do deposits to “confirm” because confirm may never happen, and time/hopes/desires still gets wasted.

Thats not always the case. There’s times when I have had clients follow thru when it’s been asked for. At least the genuine ones. I think the only leverage I do have, is to pretty much ask that they make an initial startup to set up the visit. Which I detail on my website, but for some reason people don’t read. If they read, they would know what to do. Even with doing just “deposits”, it’s not worth the “wait and see” if they don’t send it after spending x amount of time going over/discussing the visit.

Though this can apply to different scenarios, I specifically speak of situations where you and the client discussed a booking, they said they would pay you an amount (even a deposit if mentioned), but then for whatever reason that only him and God knows: the booking falls thru. They may not have “confirmed” in their eyes, but to you: you expected to have a session go thru. Even though there was no actual booking that took place, it still seems like it was expected to happen. What’s the best course of action to take? And this is not just someone who “flaked”: I’m talking about someone you either met before (risk destroying the return biz) or someone you talked to throughout the day: and they pull a ghost technique. Or, they cancel and suggest meeting next day (or you may say you’re aren’t available today but can be tomorrow, and they agree), only to go radio silent and not respond. This seems to be far too common lately on the Rent Man. Where is the integrity?

In quote to the 2 together: I think the possibilities are there. It can and does happen. I had a client the other day recently tell me he was once in a “legacy” relationship. If that can work, then so can probably a client/escort arrangement. I understand it shouldn’t be the goal to develop a traditional/conventional relationship going into things. But, I feel if there’s a connection that exists, why not. Even if it goes from hiring to friends with benefits to full on relationship. Maybe the situation can transition from a paid to a non-transactional arrangement. However: I feel the escort should have the initiation in doing that, not the client (because every escort knows the worst offer is a guy who alludes that he wants the service, but doesn’t FEEL a need to pay for it). I actually think there’s nothing wrong with being open to love and romance on the platforms. RentMen is a very “fluid” website. It’s bad in some ways, but in other ways: there’s no “rules” or “guidelines”. Hell, without rates you could make it a free thing (but which is also why I started charging consultation fees/deposits to engage, because I feel people have treated RentMen TOO MUCH like a chat line, versus an actual escort service: which is technically not even a word broadcast on the site). But point is, you want to date, date. There’s really nothing in the water to prevent romance from taking place, any less than using some crappy hookup app where most the users are ghosters or in open relationships. I have actually made good friends, clients and FWBs from RentMen. You may not get to “fall in love”, but you can appreciate a situation for what it is. Is the chemistry is mutual and there’s a desire to transition: by all means. At the end of the day, I think most will just appreciate having a reliable regular. If business falls out the equation, that may feel like a bad move.

I thrive in the summer, with the longer days and warmer temps. However, the bugs in general make it close to miserable 😖 Especially in the Midwest and South. But pretty much everywhere. Even in the mountain west, I’ve had to chase moths and stink bugs out during the summer. Where I live now, the house/stable flies are insanity. It’s hard to enjoy a BBQ at ground level. I can put out a fly trap that catches 10,000 flies supposedly, and it’ll be full within a week or 2. Friends who have Outdoor spaces on rooftops seem to avoid bugs. Not to mention the mosquitoes. For a couple days I was worried I may be coming down with monkey pox. But nope, just skeeter syndrome. It can certainly be a nuisance.

First paragraph spot on. Not to mention: the ones who were interested but couldn’t follow thru, some on multiple occasions. I like the hub idea, but it’s still a factor of herding the bookings at the right time. Like right now: I usually base out of St. Louis or Kansas City. There’s cities (albeit small market/conservative/or concentrated wealth) within 3-4 hours drive like you mentioned: but most of the time, I can’t catch people because they wait too late to confirm or expect me to just already be there the minute I move my ad to the area. Lately, I’ve just been going to cities where I can stay at a friend’s place for a couple nights and wait for bookings to line up. But to just go to a city, book a hotel, pay upfront (all the things captain @Kevin Slater told us not to do), it’s not been as busy to do that. Unless I have a client who’s confirmed and send deposit, then I can go and actually be there. I already had that twice this month: tried to go to the next town nearby, but wasn’t given enough notice or they waited hours to get to the point. I’m telling them: confirm now/send details. They don’t, and then when they finally do, half the day goes by, and they expect me to be ready and available. No. And posting cities as travel doesn’t work as well as actually moving the ad there because, RentMen only shows the list of guys in each city who have it set as their home location. You have to click on the City and scroll thru the list. So oftentimes I’ll just move it to the area I want to go to for half the day, and then back to where I am for the other half of the day. But even with that, idk if it’s just confusing people more or what. Unless I just say first thing: “I am in (city) currently now”. But then when I do that, people still don’t get it. End up with a lot of, “when are you going to be in…?” I’m not trying to do all that back and forth anymore either. Tired of that. I just want people to send me the deposit and then everything else can be worked and sorted out. I’m letting deposits be valid for up to a month so, they can figure out something within a month.

This hadn’t been mentioned but: perhaps it wouldn’t hurt to get a testosterone check, and/or look into test boosting supplements. Doesn’t have to be “steroids” but lots of accessible stuff at places like GNC and Vitamin Shoppe. Also everybody has different body types. Without a picture of you and height/weight proportions, I can’t tell what type of body type you are. However, it sounds like big frame/broad shoulders: you aren’t going to be a “ripped daddy” unless you’re willing to go on the show “naked and afraid” 😆 Also if you’re going to up your workouts, particularly the weight lifting type: don’t always rely on 2 meals a day. Workout days you can use more protein/calories. Add protein mixes if you have to. You can also switch up the mountains for the high school track. I have done mountain walking, and it is SUPER exhausting, but I feel it does more leg/back workout than actual fat burning unless you’re doing it daily.

I've had "clients" who have done something similar. Something like, "my regular guy who charges $60 for full f**k and massage is coming over, you're too expensive". Well knock yourself out... Bet if I offered it for free, you'd still not be able to afford it.

I also wanted to mention this, because this is important yet has a lot of variables. Some guys out here travel often, and I remember a time where I used to be confident enough to do it without any deposits. However, the way things are nowadays and having had enough “no shows” (which can be prolific in some cities moreso than others) I don’t like working without them. However, often times a client will say, “oh well don’t come all the way out here just for me” when asked for a deposit. Or they’ll say, “just let me know when you’re in the area”. As if, I’m supposed to just show up to another city for no reason at all. Some of these guys are so clueless. I wish there was a better understanding: I DO NOT GO TO YOUR CITY EXCEPT FOR APPOINTMENTS. And if I do go for other reasons, I like to still center around bookings. Like when I went to San Francisco earlier this year: I was meeting friends there, but the MAIN purpose was to tour and make some earnings. So I still collected deposits before and during the time I was there. It can sometimes be hard like the post I mentioned: outsourcing rent ads. In my case, I stay part time in a basically non-existent market where there’s usually no paying clients except within an hour or THREE hours drive. I still ask for deposits but I know that has probably cut like 50% of prospective clients. However, when I didn’t ask deposits, I was fronting money and getting stood up. However, who is comfortable with the fact that they are likely missing out on clients because they don’t want to book without a deposit? It’s a double edged sword. How do you address that? I know in your case: it sounds like you’re in a comfortable position to be in a big enough city and not have to do much outside travel. So, it bares mentioning that not all rules can apply to every circumstance.

+1,000 💥 to all of the above. I must be pretty good because I have been doing most of what you mentioned. Only thing to add to the above 🔝 I would say do that before arrival OR at least wait a few minutes in between time. Shower douche insert a lot of water that can make for more mess than if a person hadn’t.

Well in that case, sounds like a bad case of the flake. My misunderstanding. That said: apparently it is rocket science because I have to once again remove numbers from ads and make people send consultation payment upfront to book because people can’t seem to follow thru. And I get fed up wasting half a day chit texting with an inquiry, only to end up with no earning or appointment out of it.

What gets me are people who seem to be sooo busy and have all their other things planned but are so lousy when it comes to arranging a meet up. The past couple of weeks, I have been making appointment after appointment with non-escort things (doctor/car/barber etc.) and it’s hard to find anyone who offers same day appointments. So I know, that THEY know, it’s not something that’s widely done in the business world. Then when I try to arrange for the same day, they drag stuff on, wait hours to get to the point and book, and then if I can’t meet on the same day they contact, they’re just sooo busy to do it any other time. It can be hard if you aren’t limited to a small local radius in limited time windows. Most are just not reliable, especially when dealing with business travelers or locals who can’t host. Then people go on about others running late: well, there’s your answer and solution right there. How can we be on time for anyone, when people aren’t on time for us 🤷🏾‍♂️

So as mentioned: the part that I don’t like about trying to do this, is I try to post in a location within a couple hours away. Someone reaches out, but wants to meet “today” or tonight. It’s possible, but on short notice it could be a bit inconvenient or interfere with some other plans I have in mind. I’ve had instances where they just drag on the process of confirming, and I’m telling them: I don’t go anywhere until the booking is confirmed. And the longer they wait to confirm, the later I’m going to be for the appointment. When trying to schedule for the next day, they’re either leaving or going to be too busy. It’s like, how can I plan to go somewhere that involves some travel, if it’s going to be difficult or a pain in the ass to get a confirmation? Makes it hard to want to post in other cities outside of where you’re based.