Jamie21

This. Ask for what you want, don’t expect it to happen by chance. Book the time with him.

The latest thing seems to be a subscription service. Pay $x per month to be a member or to receive discounts or faster service etc. Like Amazon Prime. Perhaps you could have clients subscribe to you for $50 a month? Call it JarrodDirect. If they’re a subscriber they get direct access to you via a special WhatsApp, regular emails from you including personalised action pics (am thinking suggestions for their next session), plus priority booking and discounts off products you endorse (dildo of your cock etc). If the subscriber messes around by cancelling sessions then they have to pay a higher subscription but regular clients who are reliable could pay the lowest rate and get a loyalty bonus. This subscription model builds loyalty in your client base and gives you a regular steady income. It also obviates the need to get deposits.

For me to lay on while he’s busy with his tongue 😉

I provide everything, whether hosting at my studio or an outcall. Sometimes on outcall I’ll ask the client to provide a towel.

I’m always surprised at the complaints over pricing. If you can’t afford it don’t buy it. No one is forcing you to buy the service.

I’d rather know the truth if it’s that they’re no longer horny or they have cold feet. It’s usually evident when they book the session that they’re booking when horny or are anxious / exploring so when the ‘inevitable’ “sorry I’m sick” message comes through I’m not surprised. Signs of booking when horny: - Lots of pictures sent (of cock or ass). - sex chat as part of the booking. - requests for all sorts of activities. - requests for pics / videos of me (beyond what’s on my website). - and the classic “it’s a surprise for my wife” scenario which I always decline anyway before anything gets booked 🙄 Signs of booking when anxious or exploring: - “I’ve never done this before”. - Questions about discretion and sexual health etc (more than what is on my website). - detailed explanation about why they’re booking (which is actually quite helpful to know if the session does actually happen). If any or all of these are present in the booking then I know with 90% accuracy that he will ‘call sick’ on the day (or the day before in response to my day before confirmation message). I’d rather know the real reason but it makes no difference to how I respond. The horny booker is given one more chance, the anxious booker is asked next time they make contact (if indeed they do try again) to be 100% sure they’re ready and I try to reassure them I’m not going to be horrible!! The anxious/ inexperienced clients are sometimes the most pleasurable to help so I try to be understanding. Everyone starts their journey at some point and I like to be the person they choose to do that with. So they get more latitude about booking.

Everyone does silly things when they think with their cock.

Sometimes yes. In the sense that I begin to think can I do this next year, in five years or beyond? How should I adapt? While I enjoy the work I’ll continue doing it (and as long as the phone keeps ringing). I like being non conventional. I like not having to answer to a boss. I like the people who work in the industry. So there’s lots of reasons to stay at it and few to leave. I agree with @Kevin Slater work life balance is important. I have that and it’s worth more than money. I can spend hours reading, go for a walk, sit and have a coffee in a cafe and watch people, write for fun and use the gym when it’s quiet (honestly that’s so nice not having to wait to use a piece of equipment while someone sits there on it looking at their phone!).

Well as you appear to have made your mind up you’ll never know what he thinks will you!

Not much…and this is possibly why: I’m very careful about initiating contact with clients after their session. I assume people want discretion and not to have their provider send an unsolicited message…even if it is to say “thanks for the tip”. Golden rule…never contact clients unless they have contacted you and expect a response. Your guy was probably being discreet for you.

I can only speak for myself and I’m not insulted by the absence of a tip. I’m delighted to receive one of course but it’s never expected. In fact what makes me more happy is a message afterwards from my client saying they enjoyed the session or a good review on Rentmasseur and best of all if they come back as repeat clients. Those are the biggest indications for me that I’m doing something right, not a tip (but they’re always welcome!).

Great advice 🙂. I like the direct question approach for work. If it’s a work situation directness (without being rude or coming across blunt) is much the best approach, both on the part of the hirer and the provider. I made the Grindr mistake when I was new to the work… I’ve wised up since! Clients who hire through apps are generally not the kind of client I’m after. Those won through recommendation or via my advertising or website are those who have generally made a more considered decision to hire.

Happened to me. I was on Grindr for non work purposes although I hardly ever used it unless I was travelling: It seemed to be useful for a hookup if I happened to be in a new place. I guess being ‘fresh meat’ in a new town makes you more interesting so I’d had a few nice encounters but I never found it worthwhile to use mainly because I try to keep my sexual energy for my work. Most of the interactions I’d had on Grindr were from time wasters or guys I wasn’t interested in or solicitation from professionals. There was a time on the app when these pro profiles had a kind of diamond symbol as code that they were pro’s without having to say so explicitly because that would have banned them. Of course it was clear from their opening conversation that they were looking for business. I think it’s ok to do that as long as you’re clear up front that it’s a paid service (Grindr could enable this and take paid adverts from pro’s but they won’t because I guess it wouldn’t be lawful across all jurisdictions). Anyway, I always ignored the professional approaches and I engaged with interesting approaches from other guys….interesting as in those that engaged in some conversation as opposed to just saying “accom?” or “fuck now”…that’s just boring. I need some chat foreplay! Anyway someone from one of these chats recognised my pics from my adverts and asked me about work. I answered him with details and linked him to my website. Unfortunately he got annoyed at having to pay my rate for a massage when I declined to discount it. He reckoned that if I included sex as part of the massage then I could do it free or cheaper because “if we hooked up I’d have fucked him anyway”!! I told him massage was my work and if he wanted to hire me professionally then he’d have to pay my rate. That pissed him off and he complained to Grindr so I got a ban. Annoying. So I now never use Grindr.

If I’m travelling it’s for a holiday so I’m not working while I’m away. My market in London is busy enough not to need to travel for clients fortunately. It seems that mostly clients travel to London and arrange their sessions with providers while they’re visiting the city. Many of my clients are from overseas. What I will do whilst away is look for guys who might want to film to collaborate on fans site movies. If I can set up a filming session while away then that’s good for content on my justforfans. Or I’ll just take some scenery shots and solo scenes in nice locations if I can’t find someone to collaborate with.

Massage on a bed is more challenging to provide. When I see clients in their hotel I always offer to bring my table because I think it’s a better massage experience. The table allows me to move freely around it and to exert pressure in the right places etc. However it’s all about what the client wants so if they ask for the bed then that’s fine, I’ll work on the bed. You can get attachments that fit on the bed so that the client can put his head in the same style head support as used on a table so that helps. I saw a regular client a couple of weeks ago at his hotel and he prefers to use the bed. We had a large King size so it was possible to move around a lot and use various positions. That session was more focused on fucking etc than massage which is what the client wanted so the bed was fine for that type of session.

I remain 25 mentally! Thank you

I use the DayUse app to rent hotels by the hour. It’s excellent. You can rent daytime for up to about 8 hours. It’s also possible to cancel without charge up to the last minute.

Then please keep visiting us over on the permissive side of the pond! I love my clients from the States, such gentlemen and extremely sexy.

So is buying and selling sexual services! Those who think it’s morally unacceptable are usually those in absolutely no position to judge others. Absolutely nothing wrong with it and it’s legal where I live. I accept cash or credit card.

I take it daily. If I’m not working for any period of time then I stop (as in during the pandemic I didn’t see any clients for months…I didn’t see anyone for months!!). I agree with @KensingtonHomo it’s to protect me. Anyone engaging in natural sex should take it. I much prefer to fuck naturally but if I’m receiving then I don’t mind if he chooses to wear a condom. However it’s always the client’s choice.

I’ve made lots of massage videos. I started out performing on a site that made soft porn type videos (no shots of anything being inserted, nothing too explicit) but I got bored of that so started to make more explicit films showing everything. The explicit films are more fun to perform in because anything goes. I can also self publish them on my Justforfans site. I think massage porn is popular because one can imagine oneself on the masseur’s table and the massage getting hot. It’s a very familiar situation for many people.

It’s inevitable rates will rise. My costs have gone up. The rental for the studio where I work has increased, fuel is more, so is advertising. All direct costs have risen. My rates are in line with the quality market for London, there’s cheaper sensual masseurs but those are the ‘here today gone tomorrow’ variety who pick and choose their clients (it’s a hobby for them) or they’re doing a ‘rub and tug’ and ‘you’re not allowed to touch me’ kind of service. I put up my rate last year for my 1 hour session by a small amount to test the market and there was no discernible impact on demand. I can see I’ll have to increase rates across the board soon though. I don’t charge for extra services, it’s all time based, but I do like to provide a full service and a proper thorough massage so I think this helps me keep busy even though there’s lots of cheaper guys in the London market. As always it’s the value that is relevant to consider, not just the price.

Interesting! I must be in the 1 to 2% then who prefer clients to book in advance. If you text me for right now it’s always a “no”. I’m not laying around in bed all day waiting for clients to text. I got stuff to do! A day’s notice is needed usually, or longer if you definitely want me to be available.

Wow those are some scary stories. Everyone should be ultra careful when hiring. If there’s even a hint that your provider is on drugs, or looks too good to be true then trust your instincts and not your cock and avoid him. Look for guys who’ve been around a while, are ok to talk and engage with you, with a website or professional looking pictures and good reviews. There’s no one single thing that is a guarantee but the whole package and proposal should stack up and feel legitimate. Unfortunately there’s a lot of unprofessional chancers in the industry. But I guess that means those of us who take the work seriously will stand out.

He asked ‘I’m interested what you like not what you think others like’ so that’s how I answered. When I said I don’t need pics unless it pertains to how I should treat you then that means I need to know of any injuries or conditions because that affects how I’d treat my client. Example if he has varicose veins in legs then I’m not going to massage his legs. I’ve disabled clients, one is profoundly deaf…I need to know that, another has cerebral palsy so I need to understand that too. But what I mean is I don’t care about physical shape or looks, no need to send pictures for that. Just be healthy, clean and respectful.