Jamie21

22 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said:

We see a bi provider whose partner is a woman and also a sex worker. He told us that her vetting process is extensive: 

• MrNumber search
• Asks for references from other escorts
• No face pics
• Non-negotiable 50% deposit (and her rates are three times the average gay escort) 

And there's some stuff I can't remember. 

I'm not saying we should feel bad for straight guys hiring but, for me, it helps to have a broader sense of the field. 

Women providers I know seem to have to be much more careful with their vetting process than I do. It’s understandable. 

I don’t really do much vetting atall except if during the booking exchange they seem weird or want to use drugs etc then they get declined. If it’s an out call I’ll check the area out and will decline if it’s to a bad area. 
 

I’m mostly top who likes to rim (and suck) but I agree with @BenjaminNicholasit has to be for someone who has showered and has a clean hole.

I avoid rimming once something has gone in there and if it comes out it’s not squeaky clean. I find that happens with clients sometimes. It’s much less prevalent if I’m filming porn because guys bottoming tend to be really good at douching. You can do things like ass to mouth and be confident it’s all ok. 

4 minutes ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

But why?

They've always looked up to you.

Dom top vibes 

9 hours ago, RugbyBen said:

This may just be a difference in massage culture but UK masseurs mostly put ask on their profile so its never bothered me really. 

They tend to have different price points for each massage type and give you the detail of what each massage entails so I guess it makes more sense to put ask as it does depend on what type you choose. 

There's very little up selling during a massage here. 

I think this could be because sex work is legal in the UK. You don’t need to hide behind a euphemistic massage therapist label and be coy about rates and services as is necessary in the US where selling sexual services is against the law. Everything can be communicated clearly in a society where attitudes to these things is mature. 

The other reason is the restrictions of RentMasseur’s system. My rates are on my RentMasseur profile but their page doesn’t give much flexibility: just an in call and out call rate. You can’t quote for different durations or styles or services…at least not when I last updated my profile. But I quote more rate details on my website. The thing is, you can put the basics on the website, rates for the different durations etc but clients sometimes want special things like a 4 hands, or their partner to watch, or for me to play a role (e.g. sports coach massaging player after the game and…well you guessed it…the player gets feedback on their game😂) and those things can take extra so for those it’s ’ask me’. 

I look down on short people. 

9 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

An escort friend told me: "the 2 best things about aging are the accumulation of money and the increasing number of young/er guys". 

He’s right. I guess I’m one of the ‘older’ guys in the business - in the daddy category. There’s no shortage of younger guys wanting a daddy experience, and prepared to hire for it. There’s also plenty of older guys looking for things that older providers can provide that younger guys can’t or won’t do, such as intimacy, being empathetic and actually turning up on time not being hung over or high and treating their client as a person rather than just another punter (apologies to those younger guys in the business who are professional- I don’t mean to stereotype, younger reliable guys do exist but are not easy to find in the crowd!)

That’s the other thing. There’s loads of younger guys doing sex work, with a wide range of quality. There’s far fewer older guys, and those who are doing it have stuck around at it because they’re good. People hire for all sorts of reasons and age is not necessarily a factor that matters for many of those reasons. 
 

3 hours ago, soloyo215 said:

So I wasn't able to flip the Butler, but as I have always said, it doesn't hurt to ask. I asked him if he flips and he said no, but he had a few names of guys who will gladly help. Something in the back of my mind was telling me that there has to be some kind of covert activity. I'm sure there have been this type of requests in the past.

I was referred to a few local providers, two of which I chose, one Dominican, the other Haitian. They were perfect, affordable, safe and hot as hell. Had a great time last night. As everything in the DR, they were versatile in many ways, one of which was that they also sell merchandise, so I got mugs, t-shirts and other souvenirs from them.

Fabulous! I’m delighted to hear that. I expect the butler gets a referral fee 🙂. And I like the idea of selling merch…. I might take that up myself (being similarly versatile). 
So glad your vacation turned even if the butler didn’t. 

1 hour ago, soloyo215 said:

Working on it. He's hot

Keep us updated! It’s between you and the hypochondriac sister in law….surely you can’t let her win? 

See if you can turn the butler.

I think it’s strange that some commentators view bi as being ‘not really into guys’ or somehow ‘gay lite’. I’m bi and I love playing with guys, including kissing and all sorts of activities (I’m vers) that some seem to think of as gay only. I also love playing with females, indeed even better is playing with both at same time. I don’t regard one as better or more fun than the other, they’re just different. If the person or persons I’m with are relaxed about sex and open minded then it’s always a great session. 

I agree that if you come across a guy who describes himself as bi but who lists fairly vanilla activities with guys that he won’t do then that’s probably a signal that he is probably more straight but there’s also gay providers who won’t kiss for example, so orientation is not a good predictor I think.

I think it’s best to not put too much interpretation on how a guy describes himself and look more at what he will do and other signs about whether he’s doing the work because he genuinely enjoys it or is he doing it because he has to. The former should be the providers you prioritise, regardless of their stated sexual orientation. 

 

2 hours ago, Proximusss said:

I’m not very good looking and I’m overweight. The masseur looks the complete opposite (tall, muscular, Brazilian, fantastic skin and hair). I guess that would be the catch? 😆

Ha ha that’s all in the eye of the beholder. I’d not say that’s a catch atall…it’s probably dodgy political opinions or you don’t like being rimmed. 

33 minutes ago, Proximusss said:

Thank you so much for your comment. I actually have all the things you mentioned in your first paragraph to hand already in the guest bedroom. I just bought my first flat in London last on my own so I have kitted it out with really fancy, schmancy stuff. 😁

But yes, I’ll definitely ensure everything is spotless. I also pay my masseur by bank transfer before the session (I trust him as I book him via an agency) so we don’t have to discuss money at all during the session itself. 

You sound like an ideal client…there must be a catch somewhere! 

No! 

I’d expect fresh flowers, somewhere to hang my clothes, some candles for atmosphere, music playing (something classical, I find Mahler or Debussy quite good for massage), Egyptian cotton sheets on the bed of course (not too high a thread count…I’ll judge you on that) and a phone charger should my phone be running low. Payment should be done discreetly afterwards (I find it awkward to ask so please offer it as I dress, in cash). 

Seriously though….all I look for with an out call is a clean and tidy room, space for my table (if I’ve bought it), no distractions and the possibility to shower afterwards. It sounds like you have all that and more covered! 
 

If it’s an out call to his hotel I’m very happy to include a shower or bath together. It’s a great way to begin or end a session. 

My tactics: visual inspection of clients, care about the kind of clients I take on (no last minute late night requests for ‘half hour’ sessions…that kind of thing), doxy prep occasionally, fastidious about regular check ups, vaccination (hep c, monkey pox), prep daily (obviously), mouthwash and pee afterwards, douche after bottoming (if practical), no drugs, no alcohol , no poppers (not for me anyway, clients can). But at the end of the day there’s risks with everything, I’m not going to be silly but I’m also not a monk…(happy to dress up as one and role play it though if that’s any client’s  thing 😂).

This is an important topic and one which deserves serious consideration.Thanks for raising it! 

I guess I’m having a lot more sex with different guys than someone who doesn’t do sex work so one might assume that I’d catch things. Especially because the majority of the sex I have is condom less. Most people I see don’t want to use a condom for sex and certainly in the porn I do it’s never with a condom. I think what people see on porn is what they like or want to do in sessions so that ‘no condom’ thing transfers over. Those clients that might want to use a condom because of concerns about STD’s tend to go for action that doesn’t include penetration (oral obviously doesn’t count as penetration!).

However, in the years I’ve been doing sex work I can’t think of any occasions when I’ve caught something from a client, and two occasions when I’ve caught something from another porn performer. It’s actually quite rare and in my check ups (every 3m) I’m clear. 

I think the chances of catching something are far higher when attending sex parties or sex clubs / saunas. The reason? People who do sex work are fastidious about sexual health check ups because if they catch something then they’re unable to work for 2 weeks. Guys that go to these parties and clubs are less careful and get tested less frequently.

So whatI think is that if you see a professional then it’s probably a lot safer than if you see someone off a hookup app or at a sauna or club. 

Run a mile.

But next time you book, give him a time. Vague clients are problematic.

I get messages like “Hi, are you available for massage?”

Well…yes I am because that’s what I do but when?? Now?, later?, tomorrow?, next week?… Just be clear about when you want. If I can’t do it I’ll come back with an alternative. 

7 hours ago, Maude76 said:

Are there vids of you two together? 

No, he doesn’t get filmed

1 hour ago, DunwoodyGuy said:

Are you the one wearing the socks?

Yes, that’s me. 

4 hours ago, Maude76 said:

Any Massage vids of Colin Richards in London?

I’ve been filmed by him performing in his movies many times! And I do 4 hands for clients with him. Fabulous masseur. 

3 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

In my experience, when you seem the same masseur regularly things progress naturally to the level they're comfortable. My regular guy definitely goes way further now than when I started seeing him three years ago. But we also have lovely chats, and genuine chemistry. But that unfolded over time. 

I think that’s great. I go further with regular clients than I would if he’s a new client. Firstly with a new client you don’t really know yet what he’s comfortable with, and secondly I think for it to feel right one needs to know that the client is the respectful type. It’s also rewarding for regular clients. If he’s been a few times I know he likes my massage and my company and so that naturally leads to a better connection and then to a better intimacy during the ‘extra’ elements of the massage. 

1 hour ago, Thomas_Belgium said:

 

Awesome, only a few guys who I contacted are into it.

For me it’s also about pleasing the client. He really got off on me riding him and so that got me going too. He liked the visuals of it and of course that he could just lay back and enjoy himself 😂. 

He’s being respectful of you. Thats to be valued. As a masseur I really appreciate the clients who aren’t demanding I fuck them or whatever. I suggest you take it slowly with him and if you’d like him fully naked for example then perhaps run your hand up his torso under his top when his shorts come down. He’ll get the hint and either remove his top, or your hand….

7 hours ago, Lohengrin1979 said:

Well, that tipped me over the edge @Jamie21 I’ll be planning my next trip to the UK sooner than expected . 🤣

Hey thanks! Glad you liked it. 🙂