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@prof, I LOVE that answer. @MrMattBig I think we found your new answer.
 

Yes, there is. Most people simply are not very good communicators. How many times do we see Forum members ask whether escorts will do this or escorts do that? How the hell are we supposed to know? Ask the freakin' escort!

100% of the time I state what I get into and ask whether the escort is into the same. There are three reasons for doing this:

I want to know whether the escort and I are a match
I want the escort to know whether he and I are a match
Many guys don't want to tie payment to specific acts. This approach states what I am looking for and requests an opinion from the escort.


Mainly, honest answers. If a guy is into everything I am then "Wow, that sounds hot" or "Sounds good to me" is perfectly fine. If a guy is into some, but not all, that I am then "I'm not so into mashed potatoes but love string beans" is spot-on. If a guy isn't into anything I am then "Hey, man, I don't think we are a match" works quite well.

To me, it all depends on signals, and I'm usually very bad at reading signals. You'd have to straight up tell me you find me attractive for me to realize it.
 
One time I was at a cafe with coworkers, and the (very cute) barista chats me up. We talk about the weather, my plans for the day and how his shift is going. I get my order and we leave.
Coworkers swore the barista was very much into me, how he was flirting and laughing at what I said. I'm 100% sure he was just being friendly.
 
That very night, on a dating app I'm on, I recognize that same guy! Thinking about what my coworkers said, I message him, saying it was nice chatting with him earlier today, offering to go grab drinks sometime. And then he blocks me.
 
So, yeah. He was not into me.
 
Signals can get very confusing coming from customer service employees, since ITS THEIR JOB to be nice to customers. If you've worked retail, you know. Unless they made an obvious pass at you, or you meet them outside their work environment, don't attempt it.

It’s difficult in the context and setting you’ve mentioned. In CA an employee can claim sexual harassment against a customer, and he’d have your email. You don’t really have any way for any give and take conversation, unless you can chat him up outside, on his break?
 
These situations are often fun to pursue. Waiters, bartenders, valets, bellboys, I’ve had my mixed results. Proceed with caution.

I had an exceptional time with this gentleman this past spring:
 
https://rent.men/Hotmascmuscle
 
he is working on his English-language skills, but it was the most intimate sexual experience I believe I have ever had with a provider; he was sweet, sexy and delightful

You'll probably get a lot more and better suggestions if you tell us a bit more what you like-physique type-average, defined, athletic, or muscular; kisser or non; vanilla/wild; straight/bi/gay (as much as we can tell); top/bottom/versatile; etc; etc; & etc.
 
Gman

Personally, I'm always upfront about my body size. I figured that if they're going to reject me, I'd rather know it beforehand than go into the trouble of setting up a meeting, getting ready for the encounter, and being faced with that awkward humiliation in person. That hurts so much more than being told "No thanks" (or simply ignored) over email or text.
 
There will always be the guys who won't want me as a client because I'm fat. I've accepted that. So I weed them out early with the information. Meeting up with them would not have been fun anyway.
 
It doesn't have to be fancy either. My messages say something like: "I'm an overweight guy, but I take hygiene seriously and I don't expect acrobatics." That seems to have been enough information to make them decide. Some have indeed told me they'll pass. But then I was able to go through with the ones for whom it wasn't an issue.

I'm so bad at small talk that the less I have to do it, the better it is for everyone...
 
But really, I already have conversations at home, so I'd rather if we get into the fun stuff right away. So that's what I ask for: I would prefer if the action started soon after removing my shoes (or them theirs), then the session can be filled cuddling and chatting at the end. Works very well.
 
Communication!

I'm so bad at small talk that the less I have to do it, the better it is for everyone...
 
But really, I already have conversations at home, so I'd rather if we get into the fun stuff right away. So that's what I ask for: I would prefer if the action started soon after removing my shoes (or them theirs), then the session can be filled cuddling and chatting at the end. Works very well.
 
Communication!

And I thought I couldn't like Mike Gaite any more than I did.

Oh, Mike Mike, Mike . . .
How could you ever feel rejected?
You are wonderful and sexy and sexy and wonderful and on and on!

I’ve hired escorts when I was fat and I’ve hired escorts when I had a six pack.
 
Guess what....I had better experiences when I was fat.
 
I‘m sure the reasons are myriad....including the escorts’ brains being as fickle
and screwed up as mine. Yes, I’ve had great (and bad) experiences regardless
of my body, but my batting average of “incredible” hires was higher when I was
fat.
 
Now get that self defeating crap out of your head. Get of there. And ”Play Ball”!

Fat guy here too. Not much experience with men, only began to hire in 2015, also older (60's). I communicate that to potential hires.
 
I'm happy to say that the majority of my few hires have looked beyond appearance, and have been great to me, making me feel special, and so much better about myself when leaving than when I arrived. Unfortunately, a couple of times, it didn't happen, despite all the glowing reviews they had (YMMV).
 
Don't blame, or fear a bad experience based on your appearance. We're all human. Sometimes, we're Just not a good match, or it's chemistry, or a bad day, or you were at the end of long line of other guys that day. Know yourself, and be comfortable with your choice of whom to hire when you're ready.

Just want to chime in, in case it could still help.
 
I met with him recently while he was traveling, and I was impressed. I had never done anything remotely like this before, so I had no idea what I was getting myself into. He was great. His pictures are recent, and he's indeed very handsome. On top of that, he's so very friendly. Definitely recommend him.

I've always had an issue with "a real man". It implies that some things a man can do will make them less of a man.
 
"Be a man!" as if men can't be vulnerable. "You throw like a girl", as if at birth, all men are draft candidates for the MLB (which acronym I just had to Google...). "Stop being a pussy", as if being a human with female body parts makes you less than. To me, if you're a man, you're automatically a "real man".
 

That's what I prefer as well. I have no patience for people who put on a show, who are a character of themselves. Because so few of those super macho dudes or super effeminate guys act like that when they're alone. I prefer guys who act the same, whether they're alone or with different groups of friends.

All very good points. I guess it does not matter. As you said, I probably put too much stock into him being pleased with the encounter. I will keep that in mind.
 
Thank you for your kind response.

All very good points. I guess it does not matter. As you said, I probably put too much stock into him being pleased with the encounter. I will keep that in mind.
 
Thank you for your kind response.

All very good points. I guess it does not matter. As you said, I probably put too much stock into him being pleased with the encounter. I will keep that in mind.
 
Thank you for your kind response.

This read very peculiar to me for a number of reasons. The question at hand and what you wrote don’t really correlate. I hope you don’t mind I ask a few questions:
 
If you hired him for an hour and he gave you the time you paid for, and you tipped him (signifying you somewhat enjoyed the experience). Does it matter?
 
If this was not a bareback session and you were not seeking to collect his load. Does it matter?
 
Did you finish? If so, does it matter?
 
How do you even know he “faked” it?
 
We are hired to get YOU off, and while that’s “courteous” of clients to keep our pleasure in mind..it is for you more than it is for us. If you did not communicate to your provider that him having an orgasm (a real one) was of importance to you, then whether or not he faked it really has no significance. You hired him to get you off. He didn’t hire you to get him off. We’re here for your pleasure and if your pleasure is reliant on the escort having an orgasm, you must communicate it.
 
Speaking personally. I take all my sessions seriously, regardless of time. One hour clients are not looked down upon. Some escorts prefer longer, some do not. Same goes with clients: some want a very quick session, others want an extended experience. You wanting one hour doesn’t make you a cheapskate, it means you want one hour. You’re overthinking.

My two cents: You may be over-thinking it.
 
Reading what you actually wrote, I wonder if it’s not the time-span that matters but rather the lack of cum. If his orgasm and/or seeing him climax are important to you, say so when you hire. If you don’t state what is important to you, an escort cannot know but only guess.

@Mocha It does seem that you are very unhappy and frustrated with this business but as @maninsoma wisely stated this might be a wrong way to go about it. You seem to be confusing inquires with confirmed bookings. Expecting that every text will result in a booking is setting yourself up for a failure. Think about how many times you went into a store and ended up not buying anything. You probably even tried a few or a plethora of shirts on and still left empty handed. I know I had, in spite of having every intention of buying something. And to clarify I'm not saying that clients should try you and stiff you at the end, but rather that the time a sales person spends in a store with a customer is somewhat equivalent to the time you might spend texting with someone. I think politeness and positive attitude are the key, but not a guarantee, for success.
 
I can only speak from my point of view but when I send a text the only thing that means is that I'm interested and have an intention of booking an appointment. I'm not for endless texting, but I do need to see how I vibe with the guy. My actions or willingness to book at that point are entirely dependent on his responses. If I sense that he's too pushy, not listening or not responding to a question but rather pushing his agenda I will politely thank him for his time and move on. And again I'm not for endless texting, but a 5-10 minute text exchange needs to happen for both of us to figure out if we're compatible.
 
I get a feeling that what pisses you off the most is the lack of explanation to why they stop texting you. I blame this on various apps, and the common saying "no response is a response". It's quite rude. However this happens on both ends of the equation. There have been numerous times that my initial inquires have been unanswered. There have been times when after a few text exchanges the guy stopped responding. Maybe he was unavailable at the time I suggested. Maybe he wasn't into one of my requests. Maybe he got another booking. Whatever his "maybe" may be I simply don't and won't ever know and I have to take it as a "no response is a response", no matter how much I dislike and disagree with that phrase. I know it's tough and as this is your business you probably get this a lot more than us clients, and when your livelihood depends on it, it's that much more frustrating. However it comes with the territory. Naming names and exposing contacts won't make it stop. The only thing it might certainly do is alienate the clients who might have an actual intent of hiring you.

But remember...regardless of prep or what other guys willingly do, prep doesn’t protect you from the other nasties: HPV, Hepatitis B and Hepatitis C, Gonorreah, Syphlis, Chlamydia. Not sure if you’re top or bottom, but if you’re a bottom you could have some without recognizing the symptoms.
 
People throw prep around as if it’s a force field and all around vaccination for everything. It’s not. And like @Keenan said, clients and gay men in general can’t just have their own pleasure and preferences in mind, without thinking about the health ramifications. And each time a person gets a venereal disease, that’s 1 to 2 weeks without sex. Aka, no money for a sex worker.
 
When you do bareback, you don’t know what the guys you meet are doing outside of your appointment. They could be fucking women bareback, fucking men bareback...you never know.
 
I recently had a discussion with a favorite client of mine, and I was happy I was able to give him a broad perspective, because you really have to think of the big picture.
 
For the record: I’m not being judgmental on anyone who does bareback. Hell, I ain’t gonna sit here and lie and say I haven’t either. However, clients who ask me to bareback before I even meet them...I generally don’t see them. It’s just kinda tacky and if I feel like it’s something they regularly ask for, it just seems too risky.
 
Point is: People need to stop parading “prep” around like its some cure all, which allows them the green light to talk of how much bareback sex they have.

Hello, gentlemen! (And all)
 
It would appear that the rumours of my demise have been greatly exaggerated.
 
Thank you for your kind words, and for all your opinions. Yes, I have been away from this forum for a year. A kind soul told me that there were a few questions being asked about me, so I thought I'd stop by and answer them to the best of my ability.
 
Yes, I am happily now living in the realm of the fully grown man. I am no spring chicken, nor I want to be, but I would imagine that if you want a young boy, you would not hire a 40 year old man. (You'd think).
 
If you like grown men with lots of experience, I might be a good match for you, though.
 
Even though it might feel vaguely flattering to think that some of you feel that me and my pictures have been in your lives for up to 20 years, I have only been escorting for 14 years, which I realize, in Hooker years it makes me 150.
 
While two dick pictures in my profile are indeed very old, I have kept them thinking my dick looks exactly the same. (It must be all that dick botox). If you saw pictures of me older than 6 years ago you would find it hard to believe I am the same person. (I am not. I was a boy with a boy body then, now I am a man).
 
One third of my pics are from this year. The other third from last year. The rest are as old as two years old. (exception made of those two dick pics) As soon as I stop looking the same, I discontinue them but like to keep oldish pics just to create continuity in my visual identity. If you want to see pictures that are less than one week old, please refer to the ones at the bottom of this message.
 
I realize that for some of you I will still be 75 years old, using pictures from the early daguerrotype days. I have to make my peace with that. In this time in which factual information has no weight, I am not shocked to see this also applies to escorts.
 
Also, I include PNP in my ad because I am perfectly comfortable if my client is partaking in relaxing stuff. I am not comfortable around clients doing the harsh chemicals. Personally, the risks far outweighs the pay off. All hail Pot and Poppers! Mostly my client partakes, while I take care of him sober.
 
Lastly, BabyBoomer, I didn't delete that post. I am glad you shared it. Thank you! I still stand for every word in it. My guess is that the powers that be might have disliked the unflattering portrait I painted of this community and some of its members, and decided to take it down. Truth is I don't know.
 
On a different note... Yes, Thor is an entirely beautiful man all around. If I had to choose who to fuck between me and him I would also choose him, which I did. He is very happily retired and has absolutely no interest in any kind of proposal. Thanks for your kind words about him.
 
Without much further ado, I again thank you for your kind words. I wish you are all well and happy, and I hope everyone will treat you with the same kindness you show others.
 
Should you have any other question about my services, please feel free to email me at juanbruno@me.com.
 
Hugs and good wishes,
 
Juan Bruno
 
www.rentmen.com/juanbruno
 

with a nod to the first three rules of real estate, communicate, communicate, communicate

"does that outcall rate include your time getting here?"
"if you're driving yourself here, I'd be glad to cover your parking or valet"
"what is your policy for your time spent getting here?"

Tim Hortons.

I've been to a bath house several times in recent years. It's been a great experience overall, but can be extremely hit or miss.
 
I'm overweight, but was otherwise young and cute enough, so I attracted mostly older men, which was fine with me. I was chased by a lot of Asians too. Every time was different. One time, nobody was very interested in me, so I ended up jerking off while watching two guys make out.
 
The key, as was said, is to not have expectations. You're going there to get off. But how entirely depends on who's there when you go.