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I recently had an eperience with this masseur and unfortunately I can report that it was a mediocre experience at best. Here’s my honest assessment. I recognize that my experience is not consistent with many of the reviews on here, so take it for what it’s worth.
 
Pro: The masseur had a great body, was good looking, and friendly. The room also was perfectly fine (building is in great location right on USQ).
 
Con: The massage was half-hearted and disinterested. I have had plenty of massages by non-professionals who have compensated for their lack of technical training by adding in connected sensual elements. However, the masseur’s sensual elements were as half-hearted as the massage and few and far between. Thirty-five minutes of massaging my back was followed by flipping me over and doing a quick vigorous HE. I quickly released to get it over with. After that the masseur said, “ You still have ten minutes left.” To which I replied, “I’m good.” In actuality there were twenty minutes left. All in all I would never repeat. I have been fortunate to have had many many amazing massages with men discussed on here. In addition my experiences usually align with the experiences of others discussed on here. This one was an exception.
 
About Me: I am in my mid-40’s (look younger), in shape, and have been told I am a good looking guy. I don’t go into a massage expecting or feel that I am entitled to any extras, but I have found my “mileage” generally goes very far.

I think the conflicting take on Pasha is coming from people who are looking for different things from the massage experience.
 
For those looking for a massage with technical skills and a happy end (albeit a somewhat detached HE) then Pasha checks all the necessary boxes. For those looking for a massage experience that incorporates a more fluid playful sensual experience with a masseur who is also engaging and friendly, then Pasha will likely be found lacking.
 
For many people on this site, it’s not simply the massage that they are seeking but rather the more subtler connection with the masseur. I have been to Pasha a few times, and while I have found him to be excellent in many areas, overall he is not the experience I was looking for.

For what it’s worth: I have never had a massage with him, but have met him a few times (use to work out of a massage studio on 14th and still may). He’s a very nice guy and works independently (i.e., not part of the any Russo-Ukro-East Euro massage cartel).

I recently met up with him. He’s nice and handsome (with a guy next store vibe) who is new to this but earnest in his desire to provide a good massage and relaxing experience. While not trained he naturally has good hands (i.,e., strong), and I personally thought his touch was quite good. He was physically my type (natural toned body without being bulked up), super cute, friendly, and eager to please. That said his a very new to this and not completely confident or sure how to navigate this nuances of these types of massage.
 
Depending on what you are looking for, he might be good experience. While he not yet experienced or polished in his delivery, I found him sincere and refreshing after a few recent experiences with masseurs who seemed to be going through the motions.
 
(N.B. He has a table but we worked on his bed. I usually don’t like bed massages but I sensed that this would be better given then layout of the room. )

Wonderful idea @Rocca. I say Go for it, provided you can afford the costly trip. A week in Maui with an obliging masseur sounds terrific. But as others have said, you must be explicit and detailed about what you are offering to him.
 
FWIW I once took a swimming coach away with me, not to Maui but to an equally lovely longhaul destination. The coach was fit, mid 20s and had a very good body. I had a real crush on him so I took him out for coffee or lunch after lessons 2x a week. After a few weeks, we were showering together after the lesson when he suggested I would enjoy using the sauna (he serviced me orally and I gave him a handjob). That became an enjoyable routine.
 
When I thought about going away for some Winter sun, I asked him out for dinner to discuss my idea. Luckily I had thought out all the details (as previously I’d hired fit young men for trips). I told him I’d pay for the flights and the hotel as well as all the meals and drinks, and I said I’d want a lesson each day before breakfast and again probably late afternoon. I emphasised we’d have breakfast together and then he’d be free for most of the day until we had the 2nd lesson and dinner together.
 
He was interested and asked questions. I was a bit surprised at his questions. He didn’t mention money. He did ask if he’d have his own room. I said No, we‘d share a room. And added that the hotel beds are king sized. He asked me if I was gay and I said I was. He then asked about sex. And I said I enjoyed getting oral to completion, and I liked seeing him come…and I was totally OK if that was all he wanted to do. (I’d met some of his friends and they all seemed very fit and str8). I did spell out that I enjoyed having sex every night.
 
He agreed there and then. But I followed up with a phone call the next day to confirm the dates etc. Again he didn’t ask about money. He did say he was a little worried that he didn’t have the right clothes for a 5* hotel. So I took him shopping which was good fun. I then raised the question of money. He asked if I was really going to pay for everything and when I confirmed that, he said I won’t need $$$ as it’s totally free.
 
Overall, we had a really great time on the trip. He was excited on the flight out and he seemed relaxed at the hotel (where they knew I was gay and obviously saw him as my young man). He did spend almost all the time with me. He worked out in the gym every day but wanted to come with me on excursions and hikes.
 
He initiated sex the first night and told me we could try more than the usual stuff. During the week, I got him to bottom 2x for me but I had the feeling he really wasn’t into it, so I told him full oral was just fine for me. During our last breakfast, I told him I’d had a good time with him. He countered that it had been his best vacation ever, and he’d had an amazing time with me. I raised the topic of money but he commented he hadn’t been able to spend any and “we had the best food” all week. I knew his income was small and erratic, so when we got back to the room to pack, I insisted on giving him $1000. He refused the $$$ but was so grateful when I insisted, that we had good sex to end the vacation on a high.

He advertises as a bottom on the Mintboys website.

I know that he is working in real estate now. He is a great guy, excellent masseur, wish him well.

You'll get better service at Daddy's Retreat downstairs

I recently met up with him. He’s nice and handsome (with a guy next store vibe) who is new to this but earnest in his desire to provide a good massage and relaxing experience. While not trained he naturally has good hands (i.,e., strong), and I personally thought his touch was quite good. He was physically my type (natural toned body without being bulked up), super cute, friendly, and eager to please. That said his a very new to this and not completely confident or sure how to navigate this nuances of these types of massage.
 
Depending on what you are looking for, he might be good experience. While he not yet experienced or polished in his delivery, I found him sincere and refreshing after a few recent experiences with masseurs who seemed to be going through the motions.
 
(N.B. He has a table but we worked on his bed. I usually don’t like bed massages but I sensed that this would be better given then layout of the room. )

I am following CDC and NY guidelines.
 
like I said I get tested regularly and follow the laws and rules to reopen. I use clean linens, disinfect all surfaces, and regular wash my hands. My massage therapy business is a real business that I pay taxes on. I treat my clients with respect and their safety is very important to me.
 
Mandatory
• OSHA recommendations for health and safety in salons as well as the hygiene and sanitation requirements of Article 27 of the General Business Law, 19 NYCRR 160.19, 160.20, 160.21, 160.22 and 160.24 are followed.
Facilities offering massage therapy and spa services must:
• Provide accommodations for clean and disinfected face coverings during massage in prone position (e.g. cotton pillowcase draped in face cradle) or avoid such positions altogether. Employees may perform massages on customers in prone positions if the employee is equipped with both a face covering and face shield or eye protection. Ensure that customers don face covering when switching from prone to side or supine position.
• Ensure that all linens are changed between clients and laundered appropriately and that they are stored in appropriate containers between use.

I have only been to him once and thought it was a good experience. I could see why he would check a lot of boxes for most guys, but not sure if I would necessarily return. Maybe he is an “acquired taste” in which case a repeat may be in order. :-)

As a massage therapist, I’ve been experiencing so many no shows lately. Please just give us the courtesy of telling us you’re not coming. It’s a waste of not only our time, but our income. ❤️❤️

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It is my prerogative to keep on promoting these guys cause they are not just good bodyworkers however also very good friends.

 
 
This right here is why you’re getting the feedback you’re getting. In these forums, people trust the integrity of their experiences with massage therapists, masseurs and other types of providers, because they are coming from a place of authenticity. Your friendship with these two massage therapists weakens the authenticity of your claims because there is a bias (although a positive one), formed from the foundation of your friendship to them.
 
I think it’s fair to say that reviews and ratings from friends wouldn’t seem as credible as a joe blow off the street, as there’s an existing relationship there.
That goes for any type of business.
 
For example....
I have a friend who is a realtor, and I recommend him all the time. Not one of my home purchases were made through him, and although I respect his capabilities, a positive referral from someone who actually used his services, and do not have a personal affiliation with him, far outweighs mine.
 
Now I’ve had a massage from Eli, and I can attest that he’s highly skilled. As I have no personal friendship with him, my assessment of his skills would outweigh yours...
 
I hope you can understand that.

I recently met up with him. He’s nice and handsome (with a guy next store vibe) who is new to this but earnest in his desire to provide a good massage and relaxing experience. While not trained he naturally has good hands (i.,e., strong), and I personally thought his touch was quite good. He was physically my type (natural toned body without being bulked up), super cute, friendly, and eager to please. That said his a very new to this and not completely confident or sure how to navigate this nuances of these types of massage.
 
Depending on what you are looking for, he might be good experience. While he not yet experienced or polished in his delivery, I found him sincere and refreshing after a few recent experiences with masseurs who seemed to be going through the motions.
 
(N.B. He has a table but we worked on his bed. I usually don’t like bed massages but I sensed that this would be better given then layout of the room. )

I recently met up with him. He’s nice and handsome (with a guy next store vibe) who is new to this but earnest in his desire to provide a good massage and relaxing experience. While not trained he naturally has good hands (i.,e., strong), and I personally thought his touch was quite good. He was physically my type (natural toned body without being bulked up), super cute, friendly, and eager to please. That said his a very new to this and not completely confident or sure how to navigate this nuances of these types of massage.
 
Depending on what you are looking for, he might be good experience. While he not yet experienced or polished in his delivery, I found him sincere and refreshing after a few recent experiences with masseurs who seemed to be going through the motions.
 
(N.B. He has a table but we worked on his bed. I usually don’t like bed massages but I sensed that this would be better given then layout of the room. )

I personally charge $145 for 60 mins or $185 for 90 mins. I have hired guys in the past and I am always disappointed that they charge more then me and their massage sucks.
 
I live in NYC now and there is a lot of competition but I am happy with my prices and have no plans of ever raising my prices. I feel about $160 for 60 mins clients wants more of a escort like service which I don’t do. I do give MT and HE of course.

Bureaucracy in service of lobbyists for massage schools, and the banks that provide student loans to pay for it. Credential inflation in much professional training is rampant and big bucks for the business of education.

I feel the same. Nothing kills the massage for me more than an upsell. It’s only actually happened a few times, usually overseas. For me, I go into the massage not expecting anything but open for more (and I’ll tip according afterwards). However, an upsell during a massage just totally ruins it for me.

I feel the same. Nothing kills the massage for me more than an upsell. It’s only actually happened a few times, usually overseas. For me, I go into the massage not expecting anything but open for more (and I’ll tip according afterwards). However, an upsell during a massage just totally ruins it for me.

Somebody give jjwentworth or krakerwood whatever a Xanax he needs to chill

Or maybe he just wants to get groomed

There's a Masseur in NYC like that. Don't get me wrong. I enjoy him a lot. But there's only about 10 min of 'massage' involved.

I took the plunge. Very nice guy, with good massage skills. And sexy. Will repeat.

Nice guy. Very nice and accommodating. Massage, so so.

I just had a massage by Orental. I can also attest to the fact that he's a nice guy, friendly, and a good masseur. I will repeat too..