Shawn Monroe

Yeah it really isn’t hard on both sides. To add to what everyone has said, COMMUNICATE WHAT YOURE LOOKING FOR AND DONT LIE. (Coming off that thread last week).  
 

Yeah it really isn’t hard on both sides. To add to what everyone has said, COMMUNICATE WHAT YOURE LOOKING FOR AND DONT LIE. (Coming off that thread last week).  
 

Yeah it really isn’t hard on both sides. To add to what everyone has said, COMMUNICATE WHAT YOURE LOOKING FOR AND DONT LIE. (Coming off that thread last week).  
 

I would suggest you find someone you like.
Book a massage with them.
Leave a nice tip and then ...
ASK.

Yeah it really isn’t hard on both sides. To add to what everyone has said, COMMUNICATE WHAT YOURE LOOKING FOR AND DONT LIE. (Coming off that thread last week).  
 

^Thank you for this.
Given this was for massage so a bit more straightforward than escort inquiries, but still was pleasantly surprised to have this brief, direct text exchange:
[address and details, photos]

a first contact from client to provider should include a brief greeting, where you saw the ad, a request for hourly rate & if they do incall and/or outcall and the city they are located.  I then give them an idea of when I’m looking to hire and if not same day, I make that clear.  I’ll let them know what I’m looking to get from the session without getting graphic or sexting.  I’ll close with giving them my first name.  If they have an online presence and I’ve seen it, I’ll let them know.  
I find it usually requires only 2 texts from me max to get all the information I need to decide if I want to schedule.  Anything after that is just working out a time/place.
For providers that don’t respond within 2-3 hours, I probably wouldn’t hire bc they don’t seem customer focused in my view.  I also measure the tone & how how the provider responds - I’m looking for a professional that knows how to communicate & understands they are running a client service business.  one-word answers/evasive answers/ignoring relevant questions or pressure is an automatic no
I approach the men as busy professionals and I like to be treated as a valued client.  I’m also aware that most of the guys get inundated with inquiries that will never happen and many from people who just get off making contact.  My contact has to stand apart & show that I’m serious. Works every time.   
I don’t tend to hire or contact traveling providers because my experience has been it’s way too complicated. And I don’t want to be client #5 that day.
 

$$$$, be on time, brush your teeth, and wash yer ass.
It’s simple really. 

Well thanks very much for your kind remarks.   Certainly wise as well.    As a provider,  mutual respect is essential.    Respect by a provider is shown in numerous ways and it starts before the provider ever meets a client.    When the respect is mutual,  the end result is successful time spent by both parties (literally).

Just want to say everyone should respect respect and privacy. As a consumer I respect providers. I couldn't do their job. There are a few who are exemplary in their service to us consumers. And a lot who do a really great job providing physical, intellectual.,social, emotional, etc satisfaction with ease and a smile and hug. Feeling Thankful!!! 
 

I don’t necessarily have similar direct experience with migrant providers, however I know there’s some other “literature” out there that references similar topic:

 
So, with that said: we don’t always know the full background for each individual person’s situation. I know the language barrier could be easier for someone fluent in Spanish, but I have heard from a (White) client personally who mentioned to me about someone he met communicating in how you describe, and that he didn’t expect it. So for some that might be an issue. 
 
The risks may be different in Denver versus a place like say Oklahoma, Texas, or Las Vegas. 
 
I know for me personally escort or not an escort: I’d be concerned about safety and privacy when visiting someone where there’s multiple guys doing sex work in one place. I don’t even like to do that outside of sex work just because the potential drugs and/or drama that could invite. One might have a client coming, another have a client going. And all the activity might set off 🤨 depending upon the layout of wherever you going. Maybe hosting would be advantageous.
I did have a great time with a guy in Chicago who was mixed with Guatemalan American and had the same (real) first name as me.
 
Everyone can see who they wish to see, however with so much going on at the border and uncertainty with it all: It’s important to be a bit discerning versus looking thru the horny goggles 🥽 so to speak lol.

I usually start in underwear or a jock or sometimes at the client’s request I’ll wear speedos. Part way through the massage I’ll be naked, unless they want me naked from the start. Some clients like to do a lot of touching and as @Shawn Monroe said earlier they like to get me off. 

Sometimes I feel we can never please everybody. Half are leery because of a rate too low, others pass up because the rate is too high.
Why do people make our lives rocket science? A price is a price. It’s no need to be gaslit or cross examined over it every time. 
 
The only way I’ve found to fix this, long time ago: Is have more than 1 rate. And then have a menu that outlines clearly what it is. One price doesn’t fit all. I respect some clients want a $150 session, others want a $400 session. I can’t attempt to appease both by charging the same thing hoping it’s what they want to hear.
On the flip side, having 1 rates exclusively will cut all the bullshit and make it very non negotiable, which I could see the appeal of that too. 

This is it exactly as @Jarrod_Uncutsays. The price is the price, it relates to the value the guy puts on his time and service. If you think that matches your budget and expectations of value then hire him. If you don’t think it’s value then don’t hire him (and don’t try to negotiate down…that’s no way to initiate a great meeting). Of course if the services included are vague then ask directly what’s the deal.
Unfortunately I realise in some backward places (yes, you USA) these things can’t be discussed openly but in normal countries grown up people can have conversations about sexual services…. so ask him about it! 

Just want to back up @Shawn Monroe on this one.
One approach is to hire for massage only and then discuss. Sometimes that works, but often it doesn’t. I accommodate them whenever possible, but sometimes I can’t for purely practical reasons, if nothing else.
Your masseur isn’t expecting to have sex with you. He may be unprepared to offer you optimal service. Maybe he jerked off an hour before your appointment. Maybe he came while servicing another client right before you. He likely isn’t freshly prepared to receive anal sex either. Maybe he doesn’t offer the sex role you want or entertain the things you’re into. Who knows if you brought enough cash to pay the rate he quotes you in person after you indicate you want more. Maybe he has a client after you and has no extra time to extend, or he has to sexually perform for that client. You never know. That’s why it’s best to discuss well beforehand.
I hear @pubic_assistance’s point that you don’t always know you want to have sex with a masseur until you meet him. Chemistry matters. Also, checking that the guy looks in person the way you expect based on his photos is reasonable too. Once your massage only session concludes, inquire about more services and rates afterward. When he can accommodate you right then and there, great. When he can’t, postpone further activities for the next session. 
I concur with other comments regarding provider reputation. You have very low risk of problems - legal or otherwise- seeing well-known, well-reviewed providers. Those with a reputation here on CoM are more trustworthy.

While true in theory, nothing is more difficult than trying to give a massage, and someone expecting more without talking about it beforehand. 
Or hiring a provider, they offer something you aren’t looking for (or the opposite). 
or not bringing enough money. 
nothing is worse than trying to provide something for someone and they don’t communicate what they want. 

My ads were off for a year, because I was going through significant health issues (still going through them but less now).
someone messaged me and said “great ad, but why has it been over a year since you’ve had a review?” 
Besides the health issues, reviews are SIGNIFICANTLY hard to come by unless you literally beg for them. So they’re not the be all end all. 

you may want to consider using a Burner app on your phone for this hobby to keep your personal number separate......also, only pay cash and never pay a deposit......politely inform the provider that you'll pay at the end, that you don't want to discuss money during the meet, and get an 'ok' from them on these......never discuss sex and money in the same conversation.......and you may not want to use your own home for a meet (get a hotel room or go to his place if he allows)
please look over this forum for other hints and threads on safety......rentmen is almost the only game in the US and is usually fine to use.....the greater problem is fraudulent profiles there....and making sure you click with a potential provider during the in-person meet......

Just never say anything that translates to "I'll pay you money for sex" and most legal problems are gone. Also, few cops are willing to French kiss for a collar.
Like they said, the main problem is fraudulent providers. Do due diligence. That's what The Deli section is.

This is probably one of those situations where I’ll get talked over and we probably won’t reach a common ground so I’ll see myself out. 

This is probably one of those situations where I’ll get talked over and we probably won’t reach a common ground so I’ll see myself out. 

While true in theory, nothing is more difficult than trying to give a massage, and someone expecting more without talking about it beforehand. 
Or hiring a provider, they offer something you aren’t looking for (or the opposite). 
or not bringing enough money. 
nothing is worse than trying to provide something for someone and they don’t communicate what they want. 

This is probably one of those situations where I’ll get talked over and we probably won’t reach a common ground so I’ll see myself out. 

While true in theory, nothing is more difficult than trying to give a massage, and someone expecting more without talking about it beforehand. 
Or hiring a provider, they offer something you aren’t looking for (or the opposite). 
or not bringing enough money. 
nothing is worse than trying to provide something for someone and they don’t communicate what they want. 

While true in theory, nothing is more difficult than trying to give a massage, and someone expecting more without talking about it beforehand. 
Or hiring a provider, they offer something you aren’t looking for (or the opposite). 
or not bringing enough money. 
nothing is worse than trying to provide something for someone and they don’t communicate what they want.