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MscleLovr got a reaction from Peter Eater in Limiting to One Provider
Yes, it first happened to me 20 years ago. He was very much my physical ideal and ultra-discreet.
Best of all, emotionally, he was happy to play as a sub bottom to my dominant top.
The sex was intense.
Though he was younger than me, he was very experienced. He liked that, with my relative inexperience, I was happy to try new things in bed (tying him up, edging him, trios, 4gies, mild SM etc)
My nature is that I’m a serial monogamist. When I hired, it was always for the full BFE that I wanted with a fit, handsome guy.
It worked well, generally.
In the first instance, it lasted for about 5 years. The sex was intense in the first 2-3 years. We’d have sex 3x overnight (before and after dinner and oral sex on waking) but over time, this declined (first with him not fellating me to completion in the morning; in the final year, him not wanting to get pounded more than once a night).
The second was an Abercrombie model and wannabe musician/actor in LA. After a couple of very successful dates, I commuted monthly to LA and always stayed in his apartment. That lasted for just over a year.
The third was an amateur, a personal trainer supplementing his income. It was very good for 3 years, but declined amicably when he met another man.
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MscleLovr got a reaction from Moke in 411 on HotAfTwink
Not my type…But I think NIL upfront and 100% after full satisfaction would be smartest
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MscleLovr got a reaction from Nue2thegame in Limiting to One Provider
Yes, it first happened to me 20 years ago. He was very much my physical ideal and ultra-discreet.
Best of all, emotionally, he was happy to play as a sub bottom to my dominant top.
The sex was intense.
Though he was younger than me, he was very experienced. He liked that, with my relative inexperience, I was happy to try new things in bed (tying him up, edging him, trios, 4gies, mild SM etc)
My nature is that I’m a serial monogamist. When I hired, it was always for the full BFE that I wanted with a fit, handsome guy.
It worked well, generally.
In the first instance, it lasted for about 5 years. The sex was intense in the first 2-3 years. We’d have sex 3x overnight (before and after dinner and oral sex on waking) but over time, this declined (first with him not fellating me to completion in the morning; in the final year, him not wanting to get pounded more than once a night).
The second was an Abercrombie model and wannabe musician/actor in LA. After a couple of very successful dates, I commuted monthly to LA and always stayed in his apartment. That lasted for just over a year.
The third was an amateur, a personal trainer supplementing his income. It was very good for 3 years, but declined amicably when he met another man.
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MscleLovr reacted to jackcali in Limiting to One Provider
I think having a regular who you see exclusively (or almost exclusively) is great. That's my regular arrangement with my hires. If I find someone I like a lot, I see them every week or two when we're available. Many of my arrangements have lasted several months and a few have lasted between one and three years.
BUT, as always, there are some caveats. Some are mentioned in other comments, and I'm sure others will be added. Here are the ones I've experienced:
1. Don't forget that it's an arrangement. It's not a romance. While I guess it's possible that it develops into something more emotionally committed (there are many stories -- mostly in fiction -- about a man falling in love with a whore and making an honest woman out of her), it's not likely. You'll be better off remembering at all times it's a transactional relationship, however close or emotionally intimate it becomes.
2. These arrangements usually have a lifespan. On the escort side, he may get into a relationship that precludes his continuing to escort (one of my regulars got married and his husband objected to his seeing me), his career circumstances may change so he either doesn't have the time or need the money to continue the arrangement, or he may just move away. Or he may get bored with the arrangement or start to take it for granted, and if you're at all perceptive you'll notice the change right away.
3. Exclusivity on my part doesn't apply when the escort is unavailable for an extended period or if I'm traveling for more than a couple of days. Exclusivity on an escort's part is not expected, of course, though I've had arrangements with non-pros who have told me that I'm their only client. I have no way of knowing if that's true and honestly don't care that much as long as it doesn't interfere with our arrangement.
4. There is no way in my experience for the relationship NOT to become 'routine' after a time. 'Routine' can mean boring or it can mean comfortable, and you don't know which it will be until it happens. If you're often excited by the new new thing, boredom can happen pretty fast. If I'm feeling an arrangement is no longer providing what I want from it, I sometimes find it difficult to extricate myself, especially if I'm seeing a non-pro, as I worry that they're dependent on my patronage.
To the OP, give it a try and see how it feels. It's not like you're getting married and need to worry about financial or other consequences if it doesn't work out, but see him exclusively as long as the exclusivity makes you happy. It often has with me.
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MscleLovr reacted to Rand in 411 on DaddiesToyBoy
It’s not that hard to get. I know bi guys who are tops with women and bottoms with men. They get from one what they can’t get from the other. Simple.
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MscleLovr reacted to + tassojunior in *PRAGUE
The bar was Escape where they always had 20 to 30 of the world's best looking guys stripping, having public sex shows , private group sex behind curtains that would pull across part of the club, and of course, private lapdances. Gay men would routinely fly in from all over the world. I'm sure one of those met was "Velvety", Prague's number one, a hockey player turned escort/model. Carl models in Vietnam now. Last I heard from little Rikki he was living in France.
The hotel you stayed at was the Alcorn across the street from Escape. An ArtDeco 5 star with Michelin's top rated restaurant in Prague. (It was the Radisson Alcorn then). Escape was closed by police after too many young guys were found working there later. The sign is still on the building; sacred ground.
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MscleLovr got a reaction from + Vegas_Millennial in LA or San Diego - what do you guys recommend to do?
My opinion will seem harsh….but I feel someone has to give you a reality check.
You're the same poster @BlackSheep who mentioned in the Personal Finance section that you’re heavily indebted, losing money on your side-business and part-financing a relative overseas.
At the same time, you have friends who want their short-term personal loans to you repaid quickly.
You’re an adult and you don’t need a break in LA or San Diego.
You simply need to knuckle down and face reality.
Once you start dealing with your financial problems, you will feel more in control of your life. I think then your mental issues will reduce.
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MscleLovr got a reaction from Rod Hagen in I am in a bad spot - again
Me too.
I’ve been asked for loans several times by different people - maybe a total of 6x in 40 years.
If it seems worthwhile or helpful to them, I give the money outright.
Over the years, I’ve only been let down twice (by false friends who requested funds and then let contact lapse).
My advice to the OP is to clear your debts.
Paying people back and reducing the debt will ease your mental anxiety.
Stop subsidising others (as mentioned above); you can’t afford it.
And stop comparing yourself to rich friends; you’re broke and it’s unhelpful.
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MscleLovr got a reaction from marylander1940 in I am in a bad spot - again
Me too.
I’ve been asked for loans several times by different people - maybe a total of 6x in 40 years.
If it seems worthwhile or helpful to them, I give the money outright.
Over the years, I’ve only been let down twice (by false friends who requested funds and then let contact lapse).
My advice to the OP is to clear your debts.
Paying people back and reducing the debt will ease your mental anxiety.
Stop subsidising others (as mentioned above); you can’t afford it.
And stop comparing yourself to rich friends; you’re broke and it’s unhelpful.
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MscleLovr got a reaction from jackcali in Safety issues on RM
I too am open about being gay. I have been since my early 20s when I got my first job on Wall St.
I would still advise people to be reticent about sharing that they hire. Many jurisdictions view hiring for sexual activity as illegal.
Of course, that does not prevent others from trying to blackmail you.
An individual once tried to extort me as I live in a fancy co-op (that is wrongly regarded as snooty). I said Go Ahead, everyone knows I’m gay.
I followed the advice of the Duke of Wellington.
He was asked by his younger (female) lover to pay her money to keep his name out of her memoirs; he famously replied “Publish and be damned!”
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MscleLovr reacted to McWilson in I am in a bad spot - again
That’s why I never loan money to friends or family. I have bern burnt so many times that i finally learned my lesson. Pay the loaner back at all costs. You may need that person again....
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MscleLovr reacted to coriolis888 in I am in a bad spot - again
A famous proverb says:
"Neither a borrower nor a lender be"
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MscleLovr reacted to BigDMike in Abercrombie and ex-CEO sued over sex trafficking accusations
"Choudhury pointed to a recorded phone call, where Jeffries told Smith that he was concerned about going to trial and that, if he were found guilty, “they’ll take all our money away.”
It “will be a disaster for us in terms of time, effort, money, every way you can say it,” Jeffries said in another call to Smith, according to the ruling."
Dementia....yeah right! 🤣
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MscleLovr reacted to + azdr0710 in Abercrombie and ex-CEO sued over sex trafficking accusations
I didn't know this case was still going on......
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/former-abercrombie-fitch-ceo-michael-jeffries-competent-face-sex-traff-rcna593713
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MscleLovr got a reaction from Mr.Peach in Abercrombie and ex-CEO sued over sex trafficking accusations
Very true @azdr0710 I first heard about their parties with male models some 13-15 years ago from a guy I was dating in LA.
The BBC has publicized its 2year(!) investigation which was broadcast in October and is streaming as “The Abercrombie Guys: The Dark Side Of Cool”. There’s also a podcast. Both David Bradberry (DB) and Barrett Pall (BP) were interviewed and made these claims.
I watched the investigation. I’d already heard the allegations by BP as he’d aired them freely on social media, but I’d not heard of DB at all. (I was surprised that DB was considered goodlooking enough to be a male model). There was a lot of detail but almost no contemporary evidence.
I’m trying to be objective about this. It seems to me that both men complained about their poor decision-making when they were young. It was unclear what each man did by way of sexual activity, but they alleged that they felt the pressure to perform if they wanted a lucrative modelling contract. Both men said a third party, the ‘talent scout” for Abercrombie, wanted sex before putting their names forward to Abercrombie. IIRC DB said that guy wanted oral sex while BP said that he “performed fellatio” on him.
Neither man was forced to have sex with the CEO. Neither man was forced to join in when there were afternoon sex-parties at the CEO’s weekend house in the Hamptons. One guy alleged that the CEO suggested he have sex with another attractive young man at the party, so that he could watch them. Other men joined in with the pair who did not object. There were staff present throughout the party and no-one suggested any activity was forced.
Each man was free to leave the room where the sex-party took place. Each man was free to leave the house. Both guys were driven separately back to NYC afterwards. Each man talked of being given an envelope filled with $2500 in cash for their time that afternoon. (I was surprised at the amount for some 3-4 hours of work)
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MscleLovr got a reaction from Peter Eater in Shilohreed in Santa Rosa, CA?
Please will you divulge what this attractive young man may have said about his bedroom skills and preferences that excited your interest @glutes
I once had a similar experience to what you suggest above.
I had a date with a handsome young man, a musician, years ago. After we talked easily and well for a long time, he came home with me.
He readily stripped naked to reveal a marvellous muscled physique. And he got into bed and lay there…and lay there unmoving.
It was like making love to a Greek marble statue.
I found that the ‘key’ to his sexuality was that I could do whatever I wanted to his body.
He’d kiss and respond to my actions, but he’d not initiate anything.
So I just had to put him to good, hard use.
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MscleLovr got a reaction from Wanderoz in Shilohreed in Santa Rosa, CA?
Please will you divulge what this attractive young man may have said about his bedroom skills and preferences that excited your interest @glutes
I once had a similar experience to what you suggest above.
I had a date with a handsome young man, a musician, years ago. After we talked easily and well for a long time, he came home with me.
He readily stripped naked to reveal a marvellous muscled physique. And he got into bed and lay there…and lay there unmoving.
It was like making love to a Greek marble statue.
I found that the ‘key’ to his sexuality was that I could do whatever I wanted to his body.
He’d kiss and respond to my actions, but he’d not initiate anything.
So I just had to put him to good, hard use.
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MscleLovr reacted to pubic_assistance in Newbie HotGymBroNYC
No offense taken.
I do not feel that I have a "fixation" as much as I just find it ridiculous how some of these providers feel that their customers are completely oblivious to aging. There are multiple escorts on Rent.men who have been "32" for over 10 years and others who claim to be "39" that are clearly over 50.
When I am shopping for groceries, I expect the expiration date to be accurate. I feel the same way about escorts.
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MscleLovr reacted to + BOZO T CLOWN in *United Healthcare CEO killed
Probably not as tough as it is for Brian Thomson, now rotting in his grave. And probably not as tough as it is for his 2 children, who will now go through the rest of their lives without their father thanks to Mangione.
Luigi Mangione had a privileged life, born into a rich family and with classic good looks. He grew up in a wealthy, leafy Maryland suburb, went to prep schools and an Ivy League university. Rather than be a productive member of society, he chose to stalk and target an innocent man because of some perceived grievance. He shot him multiple times in the back, killing him. It was a cold-blooded murder.
There should be a picture of Mangione in every on-line and paperback dictionary under the definition of "coward".
It is sickening to watch his supporters, and especially his fangirls shout out their love and affection for this lowlife.
Since the death penalty was taken off the table, one can only hope that he will not be released until he is a very old man.
BTC
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MscleLovr reacted to + Vegas_Millennial in *Only rich and good looking clients
I find it queer that a grown man would base his moral compass on stares in Provincetown. 😆
Know the truth: most men are staring because they envy that relationship 😍
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MscleLovr got a reaction from ACluelessGent in Shilohreed in Santa Rosa, CA?
Please will you divulge what this attractive young man may have said about his bedroom skills and preferences that excited your interest @glutes
I once had a similar experience to what you suggest above.
I had a date with a handsome young man, a musician, years ago. After we talked easily and well for a long time, he came home with me.
He readily stripped naked to reveal a marvellous muscled physique. And he got into bed and lay there…and lay there unmoving.
It was like making love to a Greek marble statue.
I found that the ‘key’ to his sexuality was that I could do whatever I wanted to his body.
He’d kiss and respond to my actions, but he’d not initiate anything.
So I just had to put him to good, hard use.
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MscleLovr reacted to pubic_assistance in Shilohreed in Santa Rosa, CA?
One is a massage profile. The other is an escort profile.
I am always happy to know someone offers BOTH services.
I prefer to MEET for erotic massage and then book more intimate services AFTER I spend sometime with them first. I prefer to catch a vibe with someone before I stick my dick in them.
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MscleLovr reacted to nomad in *Only rich and good looking clients
I guess this would be true if you cared about those things. I don't. I had a date with a 23 yo who is younger than my own son by a decade. Did I care what people thought? Who gives an crying F. We sat in the middle of Le Bernardin (a 3 Michelin star restaurant in NYC) together having a wonderful time. Talked about the state of the world, AI, immigration, eàst vs west coast, what makes a great service experience when dining, wine culture in upper state NY, etc. It was a 3 hour menu tasting so we had lots of time to talk about lots of things of shared interests. We were dressed better than most of the other tables. None of the other tables cared. If anyone stared at us, I didn't notice and frankly I didn't care. The serving team treated us like all their other guests. Attentive but stayed the hell out of our personal business between courses. We were one of the last tables to leave. Walked back down to Park Avenue to the hotel. The hotel staff couldn't care less. Doorman held the door open and welcomed us back just after 1am. All this wasted energy on what others might think. Do what brings you personal joy. Everyone else can bugger off.
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MscleLovr reacted to + PhileasFogg in *Only rich and good looking clients
I spent last week with a 20 yr old in PTown. We’ve seen each other regularly for nine months. First meeting, he told me he’d not accept anything from me. But I talked him into allowing me to pay for this trip EVERYthing we discuss is academic - from genetics to the vagaries of economic theory
Honest comment: After a 10 mile bike ride on the very hilly trail through the Provincelands dunes “Phileas! I couldn’t keep up with you on those hills!!”
He’s precious and one of the most kind hearted guys you can imagine. I think young men who know who they are and what they want are incredibly fun to be with.