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It is a great song @Charlie. I’ve always liked the lyrics by Blane (Martin was the composer). I’m very fond of the song. I first heard it in full many years ago, when it was sung at a party by a dashing young teacher at Williams College. He finished it by standing in front of me. How could I resist? 😎

The English version is attributed to a famous cricketer who, being teased in the changing room about his big butt, said “You need a big hammer to drive a big nail”

Interesting thread @uclablueyes Are you reminiscing or just thinking about ‘guys who got away’? I was introduced to Greg years ago by a mutual friend at the Abbey. IIRC Greg was then a personal trainer. My friend suggested that Greg was available (then) as a working guy, but I was deterred by certain things Greg had said (made me feel it might endanger my good health). He certainly is now prolific as a porn provider. As for this, I recall two very pleasurable encounters with Scott Adler who lived nearby. Presumably Scott was also a near-neighbour to you?

Just my 2 cents…I agree with @nycman about Athens and Mykonos but disagree about Santorini. My views on Athens date from 2004 (the Olympics) when I toured with an old friend based there, who’s a fluent Greek speaker. It was tiring to stay alert to all the attempted rip-offs. My most recent experiences of Mykonos and Santorini were in 2018 (so pre-pandemic). Mykonos is wildly overpriced; think more expensive than the South of France or St Barth’s in high season. I enjoyed Santorini, thinking to myself that it was a one-time visit. My much younger partner enjoyed the overall trip (we went on a Seabourn cruise) but he surprised me later by saying ‘Never again’ about Santorini.

There’s no such thing as a “going rate”. And I must say I’m perplexed @xyz48B by your response to @goosh69’s answer to your earlier question. It’s a process to find a boyfriend and it’s not as simple as hiring a guy for a date. I was on Seeking some years ago and it worked out well for me. I had a lot of messages and before it became serious, I took the contact with guys offsite using WhatsApp and email. I had numerous dates with a series of attractive young men. Some had inflated ideas of what their company was ‘worth’ but I’d argue that those who are serious (about meeting an older man, and wanting more than a date) were realistic in their demands. I invited a lot of guys to dinner and a few stayed for breakfast. I also took the most promising guys on trips for a long weekend at first, then overseas. Over time, I must have spent thousands. But I have money to spare, and I had a great time with some handsome young men with nice bodies so I don’t regret my spending. But if you must have a specific figure @xyz48B I’d say that Seeking and a ‘sugar-baby’ are not for you unless you have a spare $25-50k a year to spend on this process.

Let’s hope it leads to @NYCgymfitNEW having an affectionate and very stiff “good time”.

Wow, he is very tall and big @ross06 I wonder how many tall clients there might be. For a few years, I was friendly with a similar blond giant who was a power bottom. After the first time I topped him (he was 6ft 4 and 200lbs), I felt like a successful mountaineer.

I really don’t want to think of him as a “member of our tribe”. I much prefer to see him as a raging heterosexual who slept with a lot of pretty, stupid and greedy women.

I’m sure the ‘Visit PV tourism office’ would applaud this thread…but the OP is asking about working men - seeking BFE with uncut tops. Surely some posters here can help him?

I only saw him dance a couple of times. (Baryshnikov was my favourite, “must-see” dancer) I spoke to Nureyev in the sauna, just ’small talk’, but he seemed happy to engage. Strangely both times, he was sitting alone. He had a good body and was well-hung so I didn’t understand why he wasn’t approached more.

I have no opinion on your preference @WilliamM but Nureyev certainly had an impressive cock. I encountered him naked, twice in a sauna (once in London, once in Paris).

You’re right @purplekow that is the easy option. I find it intriguing, however, that so rarely does the older man do that once the relationship turns sour. In this regard, I think especially of the ex-chief of BP, John Browne. Shortly before he was due to retire from BP, news emerged in the media of his escort-boyfriend. The young man had returned to Canada and being short of funds, he was interested in the offer by a major newspaper to pay for his ‘story’. Instead of helping him, Browne took legal action to prevent publication. In the course of this, Browne was found to have lied to the Court. He had to resign in disgrace from various boards, forfeited millions in stock options and bonus pay from BP etc. Yet if he had helped the young man to make a new life in Canada (by renting an apartment for him, giving him an allowance for a year, paying his tuition fees etc), it would have cost him only a few thousand.

Whatever his age, isn’t he severely underweight at 115lbs/52kg?

Again, thinking back to my late teens/early 20s, I was encouraged to enjoy alcohol with food and in the company of others. So for me, alcoholism is not just drinking to excess but also connoted by drinking in secret, drinking alone, drinking instead of eating etc

Fair question @MikeBiDude Over the years, I’ve known several as acquaintances and socially met a couple. A few have confided in me and I’ve witnessed the messy behavior of others. I know it’s an addiction but I just do not want to be involved with them.

I agree with @augustus but I simply avoid spending any time with alcoholics. As to the other behavior cited by the OP, I’m grateful now that the maxim “moderation in all things” was drummed into me by my old-fashioned parents. It was also lucky for me that (with them being quite middle-aged when I was born) their habits became ingrained in me: eating regular meals at the dining table, no eating between meals, a healthy diet of fish, meat, fruit and vegetables with sugary items being limited, and no eating outside the house except in proper restaurants. As the sage writer on food, Michael Pollan advised “eat only food that your grandmother would recognize”.

If I were suffering as you are @Big Sur, I’d visit an excellent chiropractor. S/he may be able to resolve the problem in a few visits, but at least their interventions will lessen your pain.

No info…but you have good taste @Kevin Slate

Strangely @lop23 (using the link provided) on the section “About Me” he says ‘NO’ to Kissing 🤨

I blame that Netflix series on the subject (of which I was previously unaware). The young man was foolish to be in such a hurry - he should have waited until he’d had a trust fund established in his favour. Good to see that “old money” still has clout. Tell me @robberbaron4u has this story been picked up yet by The New York Post?

From his profile: “I have the memorial affect on people. I create memorial moments with anyone that crosses paths with me.“ From the first sentence, I assume he’s stony-faced. From the second sentence, I assume he has a Dick of Death.

I heard that once too. The guy had a great physique and had been the cover model on 2 fitness magazines. He was versatile and he’d sucked me off to completion. We were talking in bed afterwards when he suggested I could invite him for a weekend away. I described what I expect and asked if that was all OK. He replied he hated sex in the mornings; I countered with ‘then let’s play each day before lunch’. He said ‘No, evenings were best’. I actually voiced, politely, what @HoseMaster thought. I appreciate your point of view as I too value the BFE. But it’s why I prefer a short ‘test drive’ before a longer engagement. I’ve slept with a lot of good looking men, some magnificent physical specimens, but I’ve found that some guys cannot make conversation and lack any interest in cultural/intellectual matters. A short date with its emphasis on sex is fine with those men but a longer date would have strained my patience mightily.

Both profiles now suggest he’s in the LA area.

I never hired a guy for an overnight without first having a couple of short dates with him. Before inviting him to stay overnight, I need to know that he and I are sexually compatible and that he can readily meet my physical needs. And @Luv2play is correct: dynamics differ on an overnight date - is conversation easy over dinner, does he snore in his sleep, does he jump out of bed on waking to quickly shower and freshen his breath before we have morning sex? Like @tassojunior I’ve had this experience. I had very successful short dates, 2-3 hours, with a goodlooking blond muscleboy 23 (a greedy bottom and an avid cocksucker) before asking about an overnight. He quoted a very high rate. I asked why. It turned out that he had done only 1 overnight date before….with a 30year old who fucked him 5x with only snatches of sleep. He knew I was top-only, fit and in my 50s so I explained my ideal date - full sex session before eating dinner in a good restaurant, shorter session before bed, sleep for 7hours, and getting oral to completion before breakfast. He immediately lowered his rate to a normal level, and we had a very good time together.

I very much agree as @Pensant’s experiences mirror my own. Physically glorious young men, who were eager and versatile in bed, charged upto $350 an hour back then. I did not haggle as they readily offered lower prices for longer sessions. $1000-1500 for an overnight was generally appreciated. Once I even paid $3000 for a week of fun with a young guy as the two of us really connected.