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I’ve always stayed in hotels on numerous visits to Latin America. I like having the hotel services and getting extra towels, clean sheets etc whenever I need them (and Yes, the local housekeepers really appreciate getting tips - especially in dollars). I’m not sure why some guys dislike registering their guests at Reception. I’ve never had a problem doing that; if traveling alone, I just book a room for 2. I feel it’s good security too in that Reception checks the guy’s ID (so you know he’s of legal age) and it avoids potential problems of robbery etc. If you’re nervous about taking a guy back to your room, then consider using a sex-hotel (or ‘telo’ in BA) for a first date. Gays and heterosexuals use sex-hotels readily. I can’t comment on SP but there is a useful generalization that Argentines like to talk a lot about sex while Brazilians like to have a lot of sex. (It was first told to me by a young blond Argentine). So in BA be prepared to chat to an attractive guy, invite him for coffee or a drink etc. I found it was easy to meet attractive guys on the street, in dance-clubs but the best place was in the gym (Megatlon being seen as ‘upmarket’ and the branch in Alta Palermo Shopping, a popular mall, was quite cruisy).

So true @jeezifonly I like my guy in tight white briefs. So I can explore his bulge with my tongue - probe, lick and even lightly bite - to get them excited before I strip them. I only have one request that I routinely make: suck me slow and lovingly, suck me dry, take all my load and swallow, now lick my cock clean Some men might consider it unusual, but I’m environmentally aware and I like guys to recycle.

That’s a shame @davebk Talking afterwards while relaxing is fine by me, but I too find a ‘chatty Cathy’ to be a passion-killer. San Diego has always mystified me somewhat. Lots of attractive young men around - I’ve had good dates with several ‘amateurs’ and newbies - but I feel there ought to be more reliable guys working there.

That’s true @DTCG82 in general terms, especially comparing to US rates. If you’re a visitor, it helps to speak Spanish well if you are to negotiate politely. Argentine men are often attractive but those with model good looks and great bodies will ask much higher rates. On my various visits, I dated two muscle gods and a local heart-throb several times - I was asked for and paid US rates, but in return I received full service for 2-3x the time that would usually buy in the US.

In my view, that’s a very generous interpretation @Leyte2019. I’d take it at face value when he stated: I knew of someone very similar a couple of years ago. I was friendly with a hot personal trainer (I was interested in him but hadn’t done anything). I mentioned him casually and a friend of mine confirmed he was ‘gay for pay’ but cautioned that the trainer had said that he found “having sex with old men repulsive”. There are too many guys, not just on OF, who don’t want to work hard but expect others to pay their bills. I’ve no problem with a hot young man trying to monetize his physique, but he better be very friendly and perform well if he wants my money.

I can’t help you @Andy2 but for me, the most appealing manoeuvre by a gymnast is when he tucks his ankles behind his ears.

You have not read, or you have misconstrued, what I wrote @Unicorn. I was NOT discussing the appropriate dosage for pain relief in a medical setting. I simply stated my surprise that such a tiny amount as 2 milligrams of fentanyl is potentially fatal if ingested or inhaled. 2/1000ths of a gram is a tiny amount; 1 gram = 0.0022 of a pound. I quote the DEA website: “Producing illicit fentanyl is not an exact science. Two milligrams of fentanyl can be lethal depending on a person’s body size, tolerance and past usage.” Also, to put that in perspective “Drug trafficking organizations typically distribute fentanyl by the kilogram. One kilogram of fentanyl has the potential to kill 500,000 people.”

I was startled to learn (from the longer article in NY Post that I read) that a tiny amount, just 2 milligrams, of fentanyl can prove fatal if inhaled or ingested.

To my certain knowledge, rates in several countries where sex work is legal (and there’s gay equality) were rather low compared to rates prevailing in the US and Europe. Of course, I have no knowledge of how those rates might have been in the years before sex work was legalized. My feeling, @DrownedBoy in answer to your question, is that if the US were to legalize sex work, rates would fall due to an influx of newbies and part-timers seeking extra income.

No @xyz48B I thought you might answer my (rhetorical) question. I genuinely hoped you might accept some advice to view life and its vicissitudes more joyfully. Your many complaints here about others suggest that you are miserable.

My old-fashioned parents were sticklers for good manners and etiquette. One of the rules they drummed into me was “Not every thought has to be voiced”. Have you ever considered @xyz48B that life would be easier for you, and those around you, if you were not always so sanctimonious?

His stage name was Yves Carradine. He was on a working vacation in London with another guy.

I accept the arithmetic of @xyz48B but I find it irrelevant to the question posed in this thread’s title. Also I did just read some earlier posts by @HoseMaster and @xyz48B asking about rates in NYC 20 years ago and I can help there. As it happens, I first hired in NYC in 2000. At that time, rates were generally shown on Rentboy (the predecessor to Rentmen) and $200 was the common rate. Amateurs/newbies and guys with full-time jobs often asked for less, such as $100-120. Handsome guys with muscled bodies asked for more, about $250-300. I recall meeting in 2000-2002 a handsome young actor with a very good physique. He NEVER advertised but he had what he termed “a select group of discreet regulars”. His rate then was $300. Similarly in London, the common rate was £100-120 ($200-220 then) in 2000. Amateurs et al charged £50-80 but gym-gods and porn-actors asked £150-200 (about $400). I met a guy in London who worked for BelAmi at that time and he asked for £150 (and was a very good date). And as regards an escort’s income, this may interest some. I had several dates in LA in 2005/2006 with a wannabe actor/model. He was short but darkly handsome and beautifully muscled. He advertised with an asking rate of $350. Because we got on well together (and I’d take him out to dinner) he charged me $300. Interestingly he discussed his approach to escorting with me one night. He disclosed what his target income was each month. As soon as he hit that target, he took his advert offline and he didn’t answer his ‘work’ phone. The monthly income he wanted was $6000. Some months he achieved that within 10 days, generally it took him about 2-3 weeks, but he never ran his ad for the whole month.

Just an aside @big-n-tall but would compliance with that request be enough to protect him if a supposed client turned out to be law enforcement?

Obviously @purplekow, given your predilection, he should have addressed you as Master or at the very least as Sir

I lived in San Francisco years ago and I was often in LA, but I’ve never heard of them @jeffla Did they offer a similar service to that of Dave (at Man2Man IIRC) who straightforwardly arranged dates with compatible nice guys? I used Dave’s services a few times and was always pleased with the dates. PS was it Stephen or Stefan Lacoste? I last heard of him a few years ago; he’d retired and was then in Las Vegas.

I agree with @Epigonos but also it has become hazardous for gay men, as well as women, walking singly at night. Swedish friends living there have told me of this. Sadly, the same is true of Geneva which has changed over the last 8-10 years. I know of 2 cases where a man was attacked in the evening.

I’m astounded by this, tho I don’t doubt your veracity @HoseMaster. I thought social security in the US was not so generous that there’d be money to spare for hiring.

Not to equate escorts with consumables, but to illustrate my approach to spending my money… I’ve paid more than $400 for a wonderful meal. I’ve done that in NYC, Paris and London. I have no regrets. But I wouldn’t pay that for an ordinary meal each day. Similarly I’ve paid much more than $400 for a night’s stay in numerous 5* hotels around the world. But I’d never pay that to bed down in a 2/3* hotel. Personally I enjoy sex regularly and I generally like the BFE. Over the years, I’ve been fortunate to have some really nice, handsome guys as my boyfriend. But when I’ve been “between boyfriends”, I’ve hired. Price was never my main concern. What I wanted was a guy with model good looks and a muscled body who was sexually compatible with me. If I were to calculate the number of orgasms versus the cost, I’d guess that I’ve often had great sex for less than $400 an hour, sometimes much less. I’ve also had great sex for more than $400, just as I’ve had merely adequate sex on a few occasions. With the general cost of living in NYC, and the rate of current inflation, I’m not surprised that enterprising young men now ask $400.

I agree @dutchal. I recognize the pics (of D0m Bl@nch@rd who’s on Insta). I’d be very surprised if he is actually advertising so openly as he’s very careful about what he posts and shows online (eg he’s shown his butt online but not his cock).

It’s somewhat notorious. Many female prostitutes work out of the small apartments in the building.

I’ve done this in the past, and I enjoyed it greatly @Rudynate. That said, it does take a lot of organizing. I have some thoughts for you: 1. People have different wishes/desires/preferences and you have to ensure compatibility in advance…unless you don’t mind wasting money and having a less than exciting time. 2. Book a 2bed, 2bath suite in the hotel. That way, you have space and you can play in 1 bedroom and retreat to the other when you want to rest/sleep. 3. If you plan to hire for this party, it helps to have good physical specimens who are versatile. And it helps to have test-driven each of them separately. Discuss openly with them how you want it to work in a “party” setting (eg do you want all the guys to play in a group? will you be unhappy if guys couple separately? do you want to see each guy climax?) 4. Organize the beverages and snacks from Room Service and extra towels from Housekeeping in advance. No one wants play interrupted by supplies being delivered.

It’s true that it was announced earlier that Charles has Covid. But it’s also been reported that Andrew has visited HM several times this last week (always in the evening to avoid being photographed). Perhaps Andrew has spread the infection; he’s hardly a responsible citizen…

Truly @tassojunior it’s astounding what you can study at university nowadays.

I mean no disrespect @KensingtonHomo but that’s perhaps inevitable when you hire a couple of guys for some group action. Years ago I had a boyfriend who was a gym-god, and I occasionally hired guys for a 3some or fourgy to spice things up. When I made the arrangements, I’d mention that my boyfriend was very hot, and that I was older but with a very nice cock and a thick wallet so I wanted equal attention. The guys often chuckled but I was never neglected.