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I had that happen to me 2x over the years. Once I was accommodating and the eventual date was so-so. With the second man, I took your approach @ButchAtl and said ‘if you have to postpone, I understand but I’ll have to see you another day’…and as you related, suddenly it was fine to go ahead as planned and we had a good date.

The second pic is an old photo @Unicorn The guy in the blue shorts is an ex of mine, Ricardo: I met him in LA maybe 18 years ago; he’s a really sweet guy and nowadays happily with a woman (and they have a young child together).

I’m surprised that you were surprised @Unicorn IME that’s a very typical attitude in LA. I guess it’s so prevalent because there’s a lot of “new money” and others want to be able to categorize newcomers.

When I hired, I always kept in mind CAVEAT EMPTOR. So, as @Epigonos and @glutes suggested, I always checked every detail ahead of a possible date. I also insisted on checking the two of us were compatible by saying how limited my skills in bed were (“I’m only a top, and I’m selfish and lazy”) and saying precisely what I enjoy (“I need you to suck me off to completion”). As a result, some hirings never resulted in a date. But overall, my success rate was high. Over the years, I only had dates with 2 scammers who obviously just wanted to get paid the maximum for doing the minimum.

Like others, I’ve always driven Mercedes cars. And in the last 3 decades, I’ve driven the sports cars (I keep each one for 10 years). Generally I’ve found that young men enjoy being driven fast in an expensive sports car after a date, especially at night with the roof down. I don’t give much thought to understanding why. Big or small, they seem to get excited and hard 😎

Seems a reasonable price to me @tassojunior. You’d probably pay a lot more for an hotel room…and then you’d have to pay him to leave 😎

Yes, Josh Weston was a fantastic muscleboy-bottom. Voracious in bed IME and like @dutchal I too am glad I played safe.

Thanks @Lucky I really enjoy reading the NY Post each day but I hadn’t seen this article. Is anyone really surprised by the findings? So in NYC, goodlooking guys with great jobs in their 30s/40s like to “play the field”. IME that’s not so different for such men who happen to be gay. And, with a shortage of heterosexual men in the 1980s, I saw the same behavior in San Francisco. I still recall fondly a great evening I had there with a young man, a trainee stockbroker (having served in the Marine Corps). I chatted to him in a bar in the Financial District as he was so handsome that I hoped he might be gay. He wasn’t but he smiled readily when I told him I am. He was so engaging that I took him to dinner, and he regaled me with stories of his dating adventures as an in-demand young heterosexual.

When I hired, I always had ‘regulars’. It was great to have fuckbuddies. The benefits for me were that I had guys I could rely on, especially when I was without a boyfriend, and I had my needs met without having to negotiate what I wanted every time. I assume the benefits for them were a steady income from a reliable “no nonsense” guy who was always polite and invited them for dinner, theatre, trips etc. And I never asked for a discount.

Do you @Jostar feel the exchange with him would have gone better if you’d simply countered with 200? Assuming that he interested you in the first place…

Well put @jeezifonly and @Skip I wonder if he’s hoping to meet a lonely septuagenarian in WeHo… When I was ‘seeking’ a boyfriend, I always insisted on taking him for a test drive before I got too involved.

There’s no accounting for taste @lonely_john. Being picky, I wouldn’t even have looked twice at her guy 🤔

Relationships come in all sorts of forms. Surely @bigjoey we should be unsurprised and welcome the different types of relations that we, as gay men, can have. BUT I don’t understand why such people feel the need to share intimate details of their lives. As long as they’re happy, I don’t care what consensual activities they enjoy. Are such people just desperate for attention and publicity? If anyone asks me what I and my young man get upto indoors, I simply smile and say “That’s none of your business”.

FWIW I’d avoid Madagascar. When I was last in Southern Africa (December 2019), there was a long-running outbreak of bubonic plague in the capital.

I so agree with @goosh69 And that’s why visiting LA is always enjoyable.

Maybe he just sucks cock and swallows the load…

I miss Expat (aka SFJeff). As he and I had the same taste in men, we often did cross-referrals 😎

I don’t understand @hwic04 why you’d stay near LAX unless you have a very early flight the next day. I feel you’d have a much more enjoyable evening and overnight if you stayed in West Hollywood. There’s more to do there. And if you are flying out very early, the journey from a WeHo hotel to LAX will be pretty quick.

To answer @marylander1940: Yes, in my opinion she wants a sugar-daddy. And she certainly seems demanding. I suspect that gay men would be much harder-headed if they were interested in a gay male model. When I looked on Seeking and dated a few guys, I only met one man who was as demanding as this woman. Funnily enough, he was probably the least goodlooking of the guys I met.

As we all know, it’s just a matter of supply and demand - the supply of fit young men and the demand of horny gay men for a particular physique, good looks and versatility in bed.

“I feel Harry and Meghan are sincere and truthful” The reason why: I find their moralizing attitude (‘do as we say, not as we do’) reprehensible as they are basically parasitic, making money from Harry’s inherited position while Meghan, a minor actress, used innuendo to smear the Royal Family after the Queen and others had done so much to ease her into married life.

He may have left Italy (and the EU) for a third country (eg Mexico) for the requisite time (2weeks) and some sun before entering the US

I don’t know why this problem has to be rehearsed yet again @azdr0710 The problem will go away if everyone does what @nycman suggests. And it’s not as if there is a scarcity of likely working guys/companions in most areas. It seems some men fixate on one guy or prize convenience above saying No to a possible scammer.

Extraordinary story. I wonder where all the money went….

If you’re going to date younger men, you’ve got to get up to speed @Coolwave35 The label has been fashionable with that demographic for about 15 years! I hope you also took him shopping for Vans - the preferred shoe of skateboarders. Congratulations @Coolwave35 you’ve found yourself a clever boy. He clearly understands both customer service and reciprocity. He’s a “keeper”. IME young men who don’t ask for much (and have to be pressed to accept gifts) are the best bet in the long run. They appreciate generosity and will value you highly. Just an idea but as he’s not into jewellery, how about buying him something like a leather wallet from Hermès? Each time, he uses it he’ll be reminded of you and the adventures in Paris. Or how about buying some new cologne?Paris has some excellent independent perfumers (whose products are sold in very few outlets); my favorite is Francis Kurkdjian.