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I accept the arithmetic of @xyz48B but I find it irrelevant to the question posed in this thread’s title. Also I did just read some earlier posts by @HoseMaster and @xyz48B asking about rates in NYC 20 years ago and I can help there. As it happens, I first hired in NYC in 2000. At that time, rates were generally shown on Rentboy (the predecessor to Rentmen) and $200 was the common rate. Amateurs/newbies and guys with full-time jobs often asked for less, such as $100-120. Handsome guys with muscled bodies asked for more, about $250-300. I recall meeting in 2000-2002 a handsome young actor with a very good physique. He NEVER advertised but he had what he termed “a select group of discreet regulars”. His rate then was $300. Similarly in London, the common rate was £100-120 ($200-220 then) in 2000. Amateurs et al charged £50-80 but gym-gods and porn-actors asked £150-200 (about $400). I met a guy in London who worked for BelAmi at that time and he asked for £150 (and was a very good date). And as regards an escort’s income, this may interest some. I had several dates in LA in 2005/2006 with a wannabe actor/model. He was short but darkly handsome and beautifully muscled. He advertised with an asking rate of $350. Because we got on well together (and I’d take him out to dinner) he charged me $300. Interestingly he discussed his approach to escorting with me one night. He disclosed what his target income was each month. As soon as he hit that target, he took his advert offline and he didn’t answer his ‘work’ phone. The monthly income he wanted was $6000. Some months he achieved that within 10 days, generally it took him about 2-3 weeks, but he never ran his ad for the whole month.

Just an aside @big-n-tall but would compliance with that request be enough to protect him if a supposed client turned out to be law enforcement?

Obviously @purplekow, given your predilection, he should have addressed you as Master or at the very least as Sir

I lived in San Francisco years ago and I was often in LA, but I’ve never heard of them @jeffla Did they offer a similar service to that of Dave (at Man2Man IIRC) who straightforwardly arranged dates with compatible nice guys? I used Dave’s services a few times and was always pleased with the dates. PS was it Stephen or Stefan Lacoste? I last heard of him a few years ago; he’d retired and was then in Las Vegas.

I agree with @Epigonos but also it has become hazardous for gay men, as well as women, walking singly at night. Swedish friends living there have told me of this. Sadly, the same is true of Geneva which has changed over the last 8-10 years. I know of 2 cases where a man was attacked in the evening.

I’m astounded by this, tho I don’t doubt your veracity @HoseMaster. I thought social security in the US was not so generous that there’d be money to spare for hiring.

Not to equate escorts with consumables, but to illustrate my approach to spending my money… I’ve paid more than $400 for a wonderful meal. I’ve done that in NYC, Paris and London. I have no regrets. But I wouldn’t pay that for an ordinary meal each day. Similarly I’ve paid much more than $400 for a night’s stay in numerous 5* hotels around the world. But I’d never pay that to bed down in a 2/3* hotel. Personally I enjoy sex regularly and I generally like the BFE. Over the years, I’ve been fortunate to have some really nice, handsome guys as my boyfriend. But when I’ve been “between boyfriends”, I’ve hired. Price was never my main concern. What I wanted was a guy with model good looks and a muscled body who was sexually compatible with me. If I were to calculate the number of orgasms versus the cost, I’d guess that I’ve often had great sex for less than $400 an hour, sometimes much less. I’ve also had great sex for more than $400, just as I’ve had merely adequate sex on a few occasions. With the general cost of living in NYC, and the rate of current inflation, I’m not surprised that enterprising young men now ask $400.

I agree @dutchal. I recognize the pics (of D0m Bl@nch@rd who’s on Insta). I’d be very surprised if he is actually advertising so openly as he’s very careful about what he posts and shows online (eg he’s shown his butt online but not his cock).

It’s somewhat notorious. Many female prostitutes work out of the small apartments in the building.

I’ve done this in the past, and I enjoyed it greatly @Rudynate. That said, it does take a lot of organizing. I have some thoughts for you: 1. People have different wishes/desires/preferences and you have to ensure compatibility in advance…unless you don’t mind wasting money and having a less than exciting time. 2. Book a 2bed, 2bath suite in the hotel. That way, you have space and you can play in 1 bedroom and retreat to the other when you want to rest/sleep. 3. If you plan to hire for this party, it helps to have good physical specimens who are versatile. And it helps to have test-driven each of them separately. Discuss openly with them how you want it to work in a “party” setting (eg do you want all the guys to play in a group? will you be unhappy if guys couple separately? do you want to see each guy climax?) 4. Organize the beverages and snacks from Room Service and extra towels from Housekeeping in advance. No one wants play interrupted by supplies being delivered.

It’s true that it was announced earlier that Charles has Covid. But it’s also been reported that Andrew has visited HM several times this last week (always in the evening to avoid being photographed). Perhaps Andrew has spread the infection; he’s hardly a responsible citizen…

Truly @tassojunior it’s astounding what you can study at university nowadays.

I mean no disrespect @KensingtonHomo but that’s perhaps inevitable when you hire a couple of guys for some group action. Years ago I had a boyfriend who was a gym-god, and I occasionally hired guys for a 3some or fourgy to spice things up. When I made the arrangements, I’d mention that my boyfriend was very hot, and that I was older but with a very nice cock and a thick wallet so I wanted equal attention. The guys often chuckled but I was never neglected.

I agree. I’ve used AmEx for years and I find they are very quick to spot attempts at fraud and to refund any questionable charges. I travel with one other credit card (in case AmEx is not accepted) and a bank debit card. This way, I’ve had no trouble getting cash/making payments all over the world.

I doubt we’ll see her out and about, masked or unmasked. She is isolating in Windsor Castle and her medical team is reportedly monitoring her closely. HM is, of course, in the highest risk category as she nears her 96th birthday. She is said to be carrying out “light duties” online and by phone. FWIW my view is that her courtiers have done a very good job in protecting her from infection throughout the last two years.

It’s a look that certainly appeals hugely to me. For me, it’s not necessarily about ethnicity: it can be white, black, mixed-race or Asian. For me, it’s definitely about the young men being well groomed, clean-shaven, with preppy good looks and having an engaging and outgoing nature. As part of the look, I expect the men to have fit, muscled bodies that are smooth or lightly hairy as well as having an attractive hair-style and good teeth.

I’m assuming @Lazarus that you’re not thinking of The Townhouse on E.58th St? I wonder if maybe someone was suggesting The Toolbox on 2nd Ave by 90th St. It’s certainly not new; my younger partner disliked the atmosphere and politely termed it ‘venerable’. Otherwise I can only think of Evolve/Adonis Lounge (near The Townhouse).

Please @Dchan do let us know how your date goes

@12is12 “the other” website you mention is now retitled as www.gayguides.com You may need to re-register to gain full access but it has lots of useful info on Latin America (especially Brazil and Mexico) and Europe (especially Spain and Prague/BelAmi). I would say there’s less current info on SE Asia.

Really @xyz48B it’s not all about you. I think the posters here were genuinely trying to help the OP with their advice and comment on the possible pitfalls of his plan.

No info but I admire your good taste @cany10011

Eh? I’m very surprised @xyz48B. First, you consider a thread started only 8 weeks ago as “oooold”. But secondly, you then express your distaste. Reading between the lines, I felt the OP was lonely and seeking a more fulfilled sexual and social life.

When you see the movie @samhexum you’ll realise that there are few entertainments in deepest rural England. So stubble-perfection becomes a cultural pursuit. This comment made me chuckle @Rod Hagen The local pub is often the sole place to meet others in these rural places. And I felt the British guy drank to allay his conflicted desires/needs. An observation that has been made in the UK (about US drinking) is that if you order a glass of wine with dinner, you’re sophisticated; if you order a second glass, you have a drink problem; but if you order a bottle of wine to drink over dinner with a friend, you’re a lush. (Full disclosure: the two of us always have a bottle of wine with dinner)

He has a nice body but at best, he’s only decent looking. At that price point, I’d want a very handsome guy with a superb physique who’s both passionate and skilled in bed. I don’t know how much has changed recently but when I did hire, there were many amateurs who met my criteria and had reasonable expectations. Maybe it’s harder to find handsome young men in need of financial support nowadays, but I see plenty of goodlooking guys on the street.

Thanks for posting this @GoldenGrill. I’m sorry that you seem to have been duped. This is why I’ve not used an online trainer, no matter how cute he is. IDK what he promised you - something written to be sent via email or exercises/meal-plans to be viewed online via Zoom or such. I guess that, if it were me, I’d reach out to him again via Instagram and send another DM to him. I’d be polite and just say you haven’t received the plans you promised. Ask, if he’s now too busy, for a full refund. Then if his silence continues, I’d report him as a scammer to Instagram