DrownedBoy

There's no way around texting them, unless they specifically mention it in their ad.

Unless you have someone specific, so other New Yorkers can chime in.

On 4/8/2024 at 7:51 PM, marylander1940 said:

Guys.... 500 for 2 hour is common!

Exactly!

"How much do you charge?" And they will reply for their 1-hour rate assuming that's what you're asking, unless you openly say you want 2 hours, an overnight, etc.

No...I mean the exchange goes like this:

"What is your donation for 1 or 2 hour sessions?"

"300 an hour"

This always happens, as if the kid didn't bother reading the whole text. Which is why I started, after getting the hourly rate, to offer the 500/2 hour, which as everyone here has noted, is pretty standard.

11 hours ago, DMICS said:

If you paid him via PayPal open a dispute claim and when they ask for evidence show screenshots of your chats, discourse with him. Include the original message where he gives you his email for payment and the chats saying he'd refund you (don't include the escort parts of course). Usually PayPal leans towards the "buyer" in these situation. Or, if you sent him the money via your credit card on PayPal just file a chargeback via you CC company. 

Also, I'd suggest reporting the provider to RM, with those texts and proof of payment. 

Cons are all over the place. Best advice is to back off if you get a weird vibe from someone.  This week I actually texted a new RM, and could tell from his words and tone that he was probably a con. However, he was also from Bronzeville, so I had a forewarning. 

I don't think that's standard, for escorts to ask. However, I personally send them something if I have to cut at the last minute.

I recall an escort who went off on me because he couldn't find his way around the city and complained about the cold, and said I should pay him money since he claimed he tried but couldn't visit me. But with that attitude, all he got from me was a block.

I can't even imagine, as a EDIT client, being that unclean.

Before I see an escort, I always take a shower and specifically make sure my posterior is clean, even though I don't bottom for escorts. I also make sure to brush my teeth and use mouthwash when the provider arrives, and actually keep mouthwash out in case my mouth gets dry.

A person who doesn't keep themselves clean lacks self-respect and/or basic manners. I know some men (especially older men) can be careless about this. They probably figure that since they're paying, they don't need to be considerate to providers or masseurs.

21 hours ago, rvwnsd said:

My experience is that most guys (not all, but most) will offer a "session rate" as @MikeBiDude called it. Typically, I'll ask "what are your rates for one, two, and three hours?" It gives them the opportunity to offer a "session rate" without me having to ask about a "discount." 

The thing is - I often ask providers what their 1 and 2 hour rates are, and I cannot recall a single instance where they also gave me their 2-hour rate. They only give me their 1 hour rate. No idea what that always happens.

3 hours ago, JamesB said:

I never ask a provider for a discount because I believe that doing so may result in a compromised experience.

That's what I would expect too.

Ditto - on that I don't ask for discounts, but may be willing to entertain an unsolicited counteroffer. However, as has been mentioned on this board, there are escorts who quote an obscene price, then counteroffer with a merely outrageous price. Budding salesmen.

Often, when an escort quotes me 300 or 350 an hour, I simply ask, "Would 500 be good for 2 hours then?" Although there's something of a "discount" involved, I usually don't get turned down or get a "compromised experience," since most providers offer that anyway. And if they don't, I'm not haggling over it.

Does anyone know what he's trying to say here?

A lover of new experiences, I really seek to give palcer in a different way

19 hours ago, Quiet said:

Anyone know the most discreet way to pay for this?

I use a virtual credit card number, which my main CC gives me. It's completely anonymous.

It's not perfectly untraceable, but I believe the only way it could be traced is if law enforcement both specifically targets EDIT that number and is able to get a warrant to force the bank to reveal info. You'd have to do something a lot worse than hire a legally-aged escort to get that, and generally, only the FBI or higher would have the resources to do that.

(also, I use it for all web transactions to keep anyone from stealing my number)

Not in the physical sense - I mean in the monetary.

I was wondering - how many clients try to get out of reimbursing what they promised? Are you generally able to convince them? And if not, do such meetings make you lose a significant amount of money?

8 hours ago, LookingAround said:

Ummmmm what does that mean?

It means that Latinos and Blacks don't always like each other. Not limited to Chicago.

EDIT: And if you want to argue that, please do so in a different thread, because here's not the place.

1 hour ago, Jay DC said:

I’m also a little relieved not to be able to leave reviews on r/m any more. I once had a client of a provider reach out to me demanding I compensate him for a bad appointment he had with someone I had reviewed well. He said if it hadn’t been for my review he would not have booked the appointment. And another time, I gave a four star review and then had some guy reached out to me demanding I retract my review, apologize and not slander the provider who “is the best that’s ever been”. He sent  me a questionnaire he wanted me to fill out so that he and the provider’s other fans could see where I went wrong. And if I didn’t comply, I’d pay the price. This wasn’t from the provider. It felt like someone trying to curry favor with the provider. On a four-star review! I contacted r/m and they shut down his account. 

Good move, and more appropriate than my response. My reaction to when a provider confronted me about a bad review was simply a variation of STFU followed by a block. You try to rip me off, you pay.

UPDATE - I met him eventually, and his English is fine, as are his manners and body. IMHO he's hot.

@Yukon21 you are correct he has a schedule that can shift and cut people off. However, since I had the free time, I told him I'd be flexible to keep the session whole. He ended up coming in early. That's not an option we all have, including me when I'm working on something important.

I would not hire a guy with nipple piercings, however.

I was with a guy like that once, and I had to be careful because even brushing against the rings hurt him. I'd hate to meet someone who also had scrotum rings, etc., for the same reason. 

He travels with this guy, and offers 3-somes:

https://rent.men/Valenntin

I've met Valenntin, was impressed, and am planning to hire him when he comes to Chicago again,  which should be this weekend. 

However, I've never met his partner Jordan.

13 hours ago, advnturpup said:

Oh, and YES he is awesome at the mix up of Tough to Tender, Rough to Romantic.   If you need him to tilt in a direction he'll go there.  But do consider letting him try to expand your limits even if just a little.  You will NOT forget the thrill... 

 

oh!  and here's the pic!  it worked!

 

That looks like he's taking the Amtrak, small bunk room.

I wouldn't mind taking a 20th Century Limited trip with him. He can tie me up and stow me on the top bunk when he wants to relax.

19 minutes ago, APPLE1 said:

He's not close to me and not my type. However, I am sure it doesn't really require knowing him as a competitor, or potential client, to assign the word rude. It really only requires the ability to read a rude and condescending monologue written by Ryan.

Likewise, while I can't testify to his education, reading his writing allows me to assume he wasn't an English or hard science major. His poor grammar, punctuation, and logic skills don't support a degree in those fields from a good university.

Okay, I guess Basstiann is better. To quote the first sentence of his post:

the people who is writing here are probably just frustrated guys

😆

10 minutes ago, The Dude said:

I live in Chicago and haven't seen a single thing about flooding in the area.

On the 2nd, they issued a flood warning for April 3 - 5, but I re-checked, and the warning is gone.

Weather forecasting ain't an exact science.

On 1/19/2024 at 11:25 AM, Basstiann said:

He’s very rude. 

Basstiann, since you're one of Ryan's competitors in the Chicago market, I would think you'd have the courtesy not to use this forum to try and smear your colleagues.

I read your long post on a different thread, and I read Ryan's here. You would benefit from some of his education and humility.

53 minutes ago, Johnrom said:

Most tasteful jewelry is super sexy 🔥 and bracelets and neck chains exude some personality . My pet peeve is the wearing of excessive cologne. Now that’s brutal. 

One of my regulars has this cologne that I ask him to keep wearing for me  

Will people stop with this "corpse" thing?

This happens to a lot of people. Just Google and look for people who get frustrating because their partners just "lay there" and let you do all the work.

This happens to all couples, gay or straight, married or single, etc.

All it means is that you get a bad f--k.

Chicago has flooding right now, along with our lovely offering of sleety snow. I won't get angry if a provider has to cancel because the river floods the roads.

Currently reading Ravelstein, Saul Bellow's final novel.

Pretty interesting, basically an accurate portrayal of the U of Chicago prof Allan Bloom, whose book COTAM I read waaaay back in the day.

I love how the book reveals that the grumpy, moralistic man who wrote COTAM was actually a closeted gay guy who paid 16-year-old boys for sex down in Hyde Park, even when he was dying of AIDS.

5 hours ago, Ali Gator said:

A few of my other friends said they request all jewelry be taken off at the start of the appointment (especially religious items) as they find it a distraction.

Those friends don't happen to have sharp teeth, and only come out at night, do they?

I take off my rings, but I don't recall being with a provider who wore rings.

I also wear a gold crucifix 24/7 and I keep in on. I've had providers wear similar religious symbols, and EDIT I agree it looks hot between their pecs. Another wears a bracelet with a style that makes him look hotter and more masculine.

This didn't happen with a provider, but my chain has gotten in the way a few times. One time, somehow, it ended up getting tangled around my partner's member when I was giving him head. That was pretty embarrassing, and no doubt painful for him   I should probably start taking it off at such times.