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The age-old dilemma of hiring a guy for "erotic massage" and then wondering what, exactly, that means to that provider.  As discussed many times here, there is no set definition of "erotic massage" which, unfortunately, results in some guys advertising that they provide that service when they end up doing nothing more than an untrained body rub with nothing erotic about it other than that they are touching you.  And sometimes it goes the other way, with a masseur providing full service and not just a little mutual touch.  I've had experiences all along the spectrum, so if you really want to know what a specific provider offers before hiring him then you need to ask him.
By the way, in dark mode the text in your post is impossible to read.  When I turn off dark mode your post looks like the others in this thread.  I'm not sure what setting you used in terms of how your posts will appear, but you might want to check that so that your posts are readable in both light mode and dark mode.

Long and hard seems like a good screen name too 😁😁 I’m just saying.

There’s a similar feature on Rentmasseur, it tells me when people have viewed my profile and suggests “a premium Rentmasseur client has viewed your profile…he may be interested in you so consider contacting him etc”. I never do initiate contact because I think it’s up to them. 
Some of these premium Rentmasseur clients view my profile dozens of times. Maybe they’re rubbing one out to the pics, and that’s fine (if that’s you …I have a justforfans 😉) but I think it’s more likely they’re just thinking about it.
I reckon it takes a lot of intention to hire a sex worker because of the nature of the work and all the issues that surround it. If my clients have put a lot of thought into hiring me then that’s great. I want that. Clients who hire on a whim tend to be more flaky, treat you like you’re a commodity and don’t value the service. I don’t need that. Give me someone who’s thought long and hard about it, is invested in the decision and who has seen what I’m about and said “yes I’d like to meet him”. 

I view anonymously because I'm not necessarily going to be hiring today or tomorrow and I don't want anyone to misinterpret why I don't contact them quickly. 

In RM settings, privacy settings. And yes @Km411 don't overthink this.
 

Damn nice looking boy, I wish I were a top!

I did have to look that up....
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/felch#:~:text=(fɛltʃ ),anus of (a sexual partner)

I had a very nice time with Arturo during his Atlanta visit.   If you like smooth, sexy, versatile Latin hunks, you might want to check him out.
He was very friendly, welcoming, and for me ...wow! 
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I saw him only once, when he visited Atlanta a few years ago.  My experience was in line with the previous comments.  
If I had the chance, I'd definitely repeat. 

Can't help but reply with the provider perspective here.  I feel like the provider/client relationship is meant to be the great equalizer.  It's the job of any provider- once you're in a room alone together - to make you feel like a king.  For the entirety of your time together.  Regardless of what the outside world my say about who is in whose league.  If you ask me, that's the entire point of an escort situation: for two men to be able to set aside their outside world expectations and walk a different path together. 
I find it to be one of the most freeing aspects of this kind of work.  Our culture - especially gay culture - imposes a lot of false assumptions on us.  Who has value to offer sexually.  Who should be fucking who.  An escort/client relationship - at its best - has been the most freeing way I've found to step outside of that and enjoy a connection with all types of men. 
If you walk away from an experience with a provider still feeling like he's out of your league, I'd say that provider has failed you. 

Some of my least enjoyable experiences have been with well-reviewed. highly touted providers, while some of my best experiences have been with new guys and guys who are not often talked about. I've found that some providers are highly touted because they are. It seems like no one wants to say "I had a "meh" time with Provider X" when everyone else raves about them. 
I have a pretty easy way of determining whether a provider is a good fit for me:
If something seems "off," the ad is off-putting/rude/self aggrandizing, or if it seems sketchy, I move on. No matter how handsome, worked out, or well hung he is, if something doesn't seem right, I do not pursue a meet-up. Period.  Obviously old pics, especially when they are recently uploaded, are a no-go. There was an escort who had mirror selfies (so far so good) and one of them showed his phone (also fine). It was a Blackberry smart phone that was exclusive to Sprint and has been out of production since the 2010's. All of his pics were from the same time period.  Pics that are also used in someone else's ad are a no-go. There was an LA-based escort who used a cropped version of a pic that a Palm Springs/Phoenix based masseur also uses. The masseur used them first. I took a pass on the LA-based escort. In my first communication I state what I am looking for and ask what he thinks about it. If a guy replies with "yeah, sure" or "'sup" or "what do you get into" or some such, I see that as a sign he isn't paying attention. If he isn't paying attention to what he has read, I can't see him paying attention in person. To me, this warrants a pass. In fairness, most guys reply with an enthusiastic "yes," or state they do some but not all that I am into, or state they are not a match. Note that when I am texting a provider I always start with "Hi, I am [my name] and I saw your ad on [the website I saw it on]. Let me know when is a good time to discuss a potential meet-up." In this case, a reply of "what's up," "hi," or "what do you get into " is appropriate because I haven't told him what I get into. Once I have his attention and I know he can text I describe what I am looking for. Like his ad, if his responses seem off, I move on.   

Or a sugar daddy!

Usually means "in real life"

Pardon my ignorance, but what is IRL?

You don't want oil/creme on your underwear so ALWAYS undress. If the masseur wants to work without nudity he will drape you with a towel. I've never been to any spa with a male masseur that asked me to leave my underwear on.

I don't even remember ever doing a massage with underwear. Always nude. 

I think it's important to note that the date displayed is the date the pix was uploaded to the ad; it does not mean that is the date the pix was taken.  Date pix taken and date pix is uploaded to ad are 2 different things.  While it's possible that a pix recently uploaded was just taken, not necessarily so.  I have seen RM who have a group of pix that they periodically remove and then recirculate on their ad, giving the false impression that the recently uploaded pix was recently taken when, in fact, it was taken some time ago. 

Click ont he picture to expand it, move the cursor to the top of the pic, and the date displays.

I definitely love to give more than receive.  It drives me wild to do poppers and bury my tongue in a hot guys ass. I love it when they moan and quiver and suck my cock at the same time. I can do this over and over.
 
I typically only enjoy being rimmed briefly before getting fucked. Love it when a guy prepares my hole with his tongue, especially if I’m able to see or feel his hard cock at the same time, pressing against my leg or wherever.  Big and hard - perfect.

Moderator note: hey about those providers whose pics don't match? Let's get back to taking about that vs. Shootouts.

I wanna lick ass, not plastic.

Nice body and to the point description.

I’d never do 6 massages in a day. That’s too tough for me! Regardless of ejaculating…
The most I do is 3 a day and I’d spread out the third one. It’s mentally and physically draining to me to do more than 3 in a day. Despite what sounds like an escort type session (yes I am happy to cum, I include oral and rim for example) I do make sure I give a proper massage, not an ‘escort style’ rub using baby oil!
 
Doing a full massage with attention to the energy of the client, not just working their muscles but working their whole self, mind and body, is draining. By the third massage I’m done. I don’t want to risk giving clients a bad experience or getting injured so I stop at 3. 

Sorry for the cold shower on your hot fantasy, guys. I’m just trying to inject some realism into this discussion so you can develop appropriate expectations and also delight in the unexpected when it happens. Value your providers and pay them accordingly.
Please keep in mind we are not cum machines. I completely understand the client fantasy of a massage scenario morphing into a porn set. That scenario assumes your appointment is the only thing on your masseur’s agenda for the day. However, it’s just that: a fantasy.
I can’t deliver cum for a massage fee for every client that darkens my door. Some days that means I would have to get hard and ejaculate six times back to back. Never mind the fact that I may have a legit escort client I have to perform for on that same day. I just can’t do it consistently and still maintain quality or sufficiently pace myself.
If you want your masseur to cum as part of your massage session, please ask for it and pay his escort rate, or at the very least, tip very generously when you fail to discuss an appropriate fee prior to starting the session and he does it for you anyway. If your guy is already way overcharging for massage (like, $200+/hr), it’s safe to assume these services are already baked into the cost and I wouldn’t worry about it.
$160/hr or less I would assume nothing more than massage, and enjoy the possibility of some extras if he does them. Happy endings are very common and normal, but not guaranteed. Do not expect full service, oral, or your masseur to cum for you. Some guys might do these things for their regular massage fee, but please respect masseurs with boundaries around what they will do for their standard massage fee. Boundaries vary. Clients are not entitled to anything they didn’t already discuss with their masseur.
I want my clients to understand the value of each of the services they hire and pay accordingly. Massage (even erotic massage) is NOT discount sex work. Blowing loads all over clients with no discussion of rates beforehand is, in my mind, asking the client to expect discount escort services.
We can debate at length about what is and isn’t sex work and many other threads already hash it out. IMHO, having to deliver cum - in one way or another - is well within the sex work category. Others can charge whatever they want for it. If your guy can consistently cum for you for a massage fee, enjoy the discount service, but please do not place the same expectations on other masseurs.
I can do six massages a day. I can’t possibly take six escort clients a day. So I charge higher for escort service and lower for massage. Scarcity over a given time period is among the many reasons I charge the way I do.

I do see the increase in popularity, which is valid (IMO). I also see how there are massages that can evolve into something else for a little extra. Like you state, I have known providers that don't want to be labeled "escorts", so the massage thing is some kind of cover. I'm sure that they have their reasons for it. Also, the massage setting seems to give the provider a little more control as to how far they want to go with a client. There isn't a specific rule about what people do (or get done) in an erotic massage, so the provider can decide. The same is true from clients who want extras but for some reason need to cover, so they "are not hiring an escort, they are getting a massage".
That's my take on that massage-in-escort-sites-and-escorts-in-massage-sites thing. It doesn't really bother me personally, and I always get a sense of the massage skills that the provider offers before contacting and asking for specifics. Communication can help a great deal, though there are always suprises, good and bad.
The thing is that there is infact, a market for that, hence the increase in popularity. It increases the need for others to have to navigate through communication, but there are reasons why it exists.