Having masseur finish on your body or face

[sammc]

I recently got a message and after some light mutual touch he took his dick out and I told him to cum on my chest it was so hot.

thinking back on it now I wish I asked him to cum on my face, I love getting a good facial.

had anybody ever requested that from their masseur and had them cum all over their face?

[viewing ownly]

No, and the chest idea was better if it was a first experience with him. You got to see what he's got.

[jeezifonly]

Team Swallow!!🤚🏼

… anyone??

[starman05]

I mean I have plenty of fantasies. I saw a guy earlier this year and I got the impression he’d have fucked me

 

when he asked what I wanted I let out, as my voice cracked, “just a massage please.” 
 

he chuckled and gave a great massage 

[Jamie21]

It’s a regular thing clients want. I usually kneel with my legs either side of their hips and cum on their chest or face as I bring them off with my hand behind me. It’s a great visual for them. The trick is timing it so that I cum just before they do 😉

[Your Man in Arlington]

6 hours ago, sammc said:

had anybody ever requested that from their masseur and had them cum all over their face?

I had a massage with a hot Columbian kid, who was both super skilled at deep tissue massage and the extras. He was rock hard the entire session, and after I came with him straddling me and me frotting from behind, he announced that he needed to cum, too, and shot so much it covered my chest and my face. So, why not both?

[pubic_assistance]

To me ...when I am PAYING a masseur, I want a massage and maybe a Happy ending for ME.

The issue of the other fellow ejaculating anywhere seems more ESCORT oriented than MASSAGE 🤔

[PittGuy]

I think it’s hot as hell when that happens.  Given who and what these guys must encounter, it’s pretty cool when a masseur is apparently into you (or horny enough) to cum as part of the massage, it makes the whole experience that much hotter.  If a masseur gets hard during the massage, all bets are off!

[SirBillybob]

6 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

It’s a regular thing clients want. I usually kneel with my legs either side of their hips and cum on their chest or face as I bring them off with my hand behind me. It’s a great visual for them. The trick is timing it so that I cum just before they do 😉

You’ll be hearing from the Nomination Committee.

[Your Man in Arlington]

2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

To me ...when I am PAYING a masseur, I want a massage and maybe a Happy ending for ME.

The issue of the other fellow ejaculating anywhere seems more ESCORT oriented than MASSAGE 🤔

As I said, why not both?

Especially since the massage was, in my opinion after 20+ years of getting therapeutic massages, seriously top notch.

[Jamie21]

2 hours ago, SirBillybob said:

You’ll be hearing from the Nomination Committee.

Yay! My porn videos did get nominated a year ago actually 🤪

[Simon Suraci]

Sorry for the cold shower on your hot fantasy, guys. I’m just trying to inject some realism into this discussion so you can develop appropriate expectations and also delight in the unexpected when it happens. Value your providers and pay them accordingly.

Please keep in mind we are not cum machines. I completely understand the client fantasy of a massage scenario morphing into a porn set. That scenario assumes your appointment is the only thing on your masseur’s agenda for the day. However, it’s just that: a fantasy.

I can’t deliver cum for a massage fee for every client that darkens my door. Some days that means I would have to get hard and ejaculate six times back to back. Never mind the fact that I may have a legit escort client I have to perform for on that same day. I just can’t do it consistently and still maintain quality or sufficiently pace myself.

If you want your masseur to cum as part of your massage session, please ask for it and pay his escort rate, or at the very least, tip very generously when you fail to discuss an appropriate fee prior to starting the session and he does it for you anyway. If your guy is already way overcharging for massage (like, $200+/hr), it’s safe to assume these services are already baked into the cost and I wouldn’t worry about it.

$160/hr or less I would assume nothing more than massage, and enjoy the possibility of some extras if he does them. Happy endings are very common and normal, but not guaranteed. Do not expect full service, oral, or your masseur to cum for you. Some guys might do these things for their regular massage fee, but please respect masseurs with boundaries around what they will do for their standard massage fee. Boundaries vary. Clients are not entitled to anything they didn’t already discuss with their masseur.

I want my clients to understand the value of each of the services they hire and pay accordingly. Massage (even erotic massage) is NOT discount sex work. Blowing loads all over clients with no discussion of rates beforehand is, in my mind, asking the client to expect discount escort services.

We can debate at length about what is and isn’t sex work and many other threads already hash it out. IMHO, having to deliver cum - in one way or another - is well within the sex work category. Others can charge whatever they want for it. If your guy can consistently cum for you for a massage fee, enjoy the discount service, but please do not place the same expectations on other masseurs.

I can do six massages a day. I can’t possibly take six escort clients a day. So I charge higher for escort service and lower for massage. Scarcity over a given time period is among the many reasons I charge the way I do.

[Jamie21]

4 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

To me ...when I am PAYING a masseur, I want a massage and maybe a Happy ending for ME.

The issue of the other fellow ejaculating anywhere seems more ESCORT oriented than MASSAGE 🤔

And to others, when they’re paying they want to see the masseur ejaculating (before they ejaculate). If that’s what they want then I’m happy to oblige. Every client is unique. 

[Jamie21]

4 minutes ago, Simon Suraci said:

I can do six massages a day. I can’t possibly take six escort clients a day.

I’d never do 6 massages in a day. That’s too tough for me! Regardless of ejaculating…

The most I do is 3 a day and I’d spread out the third one. It’s mentally and physically draining to me to do more than 3 in a day. Despite what sounds like an escort type session (yes I am happy to cum, I include oral and rim for example) I do make sure I give a proper massage, not an ‘escort style’ rub using baby oil!
 

Doing a full massage with attention to the energy of the client, not just working their muscles but working their whole self, mind and body, is draining. By the third massage I’m done. I don’t want to risk giving clients a bad experience or getting injured so I stop at 3. 

[Your Man in Arlington]

1 hour ago, Simon Suraci said:

I want my clients to understand the value of each of the services they hire and pay accordingly. Massage (even erotic massage) is NOT discount sex work. Blowing loads all over clients with no discussion of rates beforehand is, in my mind, asking the client to expect discount escort services.

I totally agree with you on this.

In my experience relayed above, I did pay a higher than therapeutic rate, and still did not request or expect to have him cum at the end. I think just happened to be a mutual chemistry thing, and I let him know I appreciated the experience the best way I knew how, with a big thank you and a big tip on top of that higher rate.

[pubic_assistance]

10 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

to others, when they’re paying they want to see the masseur ejaculating

Everyone has their own turn-ons. That's not what I am disputing.

I am saying if everyone is ejaculating all over the place this is not "  a massage"...this is sex-worker territory.

Edited November 11, 2023 by pubic_assistance
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[DunwoodyGuy]

10 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

It’s a regular thing clients want. I usually kneel with my legs either side of their hips and cum on their chest or face as I bring them off with my hand behind me. It’s a great visual for them. The trick is timing it so that I cum just before they do 😉

Okay, well THAT sold me. Now I know what I'm doing on my next trip to London--as soon as I get there!

[marylander1940]

5 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

To me ...when I am PAYING a masseur, I want a massage and maybe a Happy ending for ME.

The issue of the other fellow ejaculating anywhere seems more ESCORT oriented than MASSAGE 🤔

Exactly!

I couldn't agree with you more! 

Was the masseur jerking off with one hand and massaging with the other one? 

Is this thread a way to glorify premature ejaculation? Some of the posts sound like cumming within less than a minute of "touching"/"stimulation" is a manly thing... 

[marylander1940]

1 hour ago, Jamie21 said:

I’d never do 6 massages in a day. That’s too tough for me! Regardless of ejaculating…

The most I do is 3 a day and I’d spread out the third one. It’s mentally and physically draining to me to do more than 3 in a day. Despite what sounds like an escort type session (yes I am happy to cum, I include oral and rim for example) I do make sure I give a proper massage, not an ‘escort style’ rub using baby oil!
 

Doing a full massage with attention to the energy of the client, not just working their muscles but working their whole self, mind and body, is draining. By the third massage I’m done. I don’t want to risk giving clients a bad experience or getting injured so I stop at 3. 

Damn your phone can't stop beeping now!

 

[Jamie21]

28 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Everyone has their own turn-ons. That's not what i am not disputing.

I am saying if everyone is ejaculating all over the place this is not "  a massage"...this is sex-worker territory.

It could be both. I’m not bothered about being called a sex worker, I use the term to describe myself. I like to also give a great proper massage. Clients get a great massage, and a ‘happy ending’ (in fact the massage builds to the happy ending), and if they want me to ejaculate as part of that then I’m happy to do that too. If that’s sex work then that’s great! No problem with it. 

 

Edited November 10, 2023 by Jamie21

[SamMiller213]

I don’t mind it but depends on the vibe and I usually want it to happen after I’m taken care of because if it’s before they often lose interest. And never on the face.

[Guest]

It's a fantasy of mine, but has never happened to me as of yet.   

Of course I haven't negotiated it into the price and I don't think that my body turns anyone on.  So there's that.  It sounds like a fun experience.

Now, I did hire a traveling masseur who charged the higher rate as @Simon Suraci mentioned.  That turned out to be more SW than massage and he did ejaculate for me.  I don't consider that the same as a therapeutic massage session ending with something more.

While it is a fantasy for me, as most of us, I have no expectation that it will ever happen.  

Edited November 10, 2023 by Guest

[Simon Suraci]

It’s harder to find, but some masseurs are equally excellent at therapeutic massage, eroticism, and sex work - and balance all of those well. I am one of them. I haven’t had the pleasure of visiting @Jamie21 yet, but from what I know from the forums, I am sure he is too.

My major point of difference is not what I am willing to do, or for whom, but what you’re paying for the level of service you want. You don’t have to choose between good massage or sex work. You can have it all! At least with me. The key is finding the right provider for your particular needs, and communicating your needs. Also key is valuing the services appropriately and paying for them appropriately. Best to book ahead when you want more.

Expecting someone to give away a more valuable service for free or at a discount will leave most of you disappointed most of the time. You will hear stories of freebies on these forums all the time because those are the most memorable and exciting stories to tell. The day-to-day reality is not like that at all.

It’s not about the way you look, either. I serve everyone. Young, old, fit, out of shape, differently abled people, more attractive people, less attractive people, and so on. The other day, I told a client I was really into that he would need to pay my respective rates if he wants me to top him. That’s how it works, no matter who you are.

Other providers will vary. Many of them cherry pick clients and what they will do with whom, but those are not the best guys to hire anyhow. They don’t understand how this business works, and they won’t last. Or it’s not their main source of income and can afford to not take it seriously.

5 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

The most I do is 3 a day and I’d spread out the third one. It’s mentally and physically draining to me to do more than 3 in a day.

I must have stamina then. I might average more like 3 per day, but it varies. On my busiest days, I will do 5 or 6 per day, no problem. I max out at six. It also just depends on the services clients are booking and for how long. Yesterday, for example, I had a three hour appointment, and still had two other clients, one before and one after and each of those was over 90 mins. That’s quite a full day seeing only three, so I hear your point.

Sometimes I have 5-6 clients per day for weeks at a stretch depending on if I am traveling to other cities for work or if it’s a busy season. The thing is, a client has no idea of my schedule or how busy I am on a given day, and honestly they don’t care anyway. Money aside, it’s unreasonable for a client to expect or request me to perform at an escort level with no notice and for the same fee. Just from a practical perspective, I can’t do it. And again, it has nothing to do with the way the client looks. This is my job. Not a hookup app with money changing hands.

I have a fee schedule for clients who specifically want a fantasy massage / escort combination service. You get anything and (pretty much) everything you want on the sex side, AND plenty of quality legit massage therapy time. You pick the total time to fit your needs and your budget, and bingo. Get it all. Pay equitably for it. Everybody is happy. Here’s that, for reference:

 

Massage / Sex Work Combo

(Incall/Outcall)

$450 / 120 min

$400 / 90 min

$300 / 60 min

 

Compare to my regular massage rates:

Incall Massage

$260 / 120 min - Luxury

$210 / 90 min - Recommended

$150 / 60 min - Basic

$80 / 30 min - Express

[Jamie21]

7 hours ago, Simon Suraci said:

I must have stamina then. I might average more like 3 per day, but it varies. On my busiest days, I will do 5 or 6 per day, no problem.

Sounds like you do!  I’m avoiding 5 or 6 per day because well, I don’t get that many clients asking in the first place! …but even if I did I wouldn’t book that many. The physical stamina aspect is part of the reason although I swim and run distances so I probably have that kind of stamina for it but it’s the mental and emotional energy that I need to be aware of. 

I try to get into a state of flow when massaging, so that I’m doing it without consciously thinking. It’s difficult to do that and I don’t always succeed. However when fully in that state I’m acutely aware of the person I’m massaging: I can hear their breathing, feel their heartbeat, feel their temperature changes, see the slightest change in how they react to touch on different parts of their body. I think it makes for a much more intense experience for the client.

On the surface of it I’m just working their muscles in a normal massage way but that’s only a small part of it. At the deeper level I’m working their whole body including their mind. If I’m in a proper state of flow then it’s as if we are not two bodies any more, we are one body and I feel what they feel, and I can sense what their state of mind is. The energy that takes is massive.

I think this kind of massage is more of an eastern philosophy of massage than the western one. If I tried to do more than 3 a day I’d not be able to do my style of massage. 

[SouthOfTheBorder]

15 hours ago, Simon Suraci said:

Please keep in mind we are not cum machines. I completely understand the client fantasy of a massage scenario morphing into a porn set.

I never expect/require an escort to cum.  I don’t get the fascination with it, but I know it’s common. I assume the escorts have other clients and I wouldn’t want to impair their next appointment.  The escorts always seem to surprised that I don’t care.  Some want to cum and of course that’s great.  And I certainly wouldn’t expect a masseur to cum either.  When happy endings for me happen organically in a massage setting, then fine.  

The issue here is many guys really want a discounted rate by booking massage & then expecting escort services.  Of course, totally different if you’re going to a place or person for massage and it is known/accepted that happy endings are part of the deal.  If you’re not sure, then don’t expect it. 

It’s always a mistake to have a preconceived idea/expectation of what is going to happen in an escort/massage situation, unless you have discussed your requirements clearly and the provider has agreed.  This requires very clear communication & that seems to be difficult given the shame around sex, paying for sex and fear of judgement.  If those type conversations are uncomfortable, then it’s a very healthy exercise to work through it - expressing wants & needs clearly is empowering.  

I recently got a new massage therapist, who I see at least once a week. He was a referral from a friend and there was no expectation of any sex.  He’s super hot/sexy, gentle with a firm touch and the movements/strokes feel sensual, but not sexual or erotic. On the table, I usually get turned on and get hard at some point.  And then my mind wanders to other things.  I realized that what I really like with this new guy is the ability to feel completely vulnerable & safe and very intimate all at the same time, without it being sexual. I let him touch me in places (not sexual) that I am too sensitive with others. But, for some reason it’s ok with him.  I absolutely love sex, but sometimes it’s not about sex all the time.

Edited November 11, 2023 by SouthOfTheBorder