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@Jay_lucas  The business model that a practitioner utilizes doesn't have to be static approach of request deposit/don't request deposit, it can adapt to the market they use as a home base versus when traveling (this shouldn't be rocket science).  In looking at the two major platforms (RentMasseur and RentMen), and conducting a simple profile search of the word "Deposit" only 32 of 4,306 (0.74314909%) of Rentmasseur practitioners and 68 of 10,688 (0.636622%) of Rentmen practitioners outrightly state that a Deposit would be required at some stage of engagement.
Practitioners choose what business model works for them best.   Scanning only a couple of profiles on each, it was clear that for some of the practitioners it wasn't required in all instances and for others it was a hard and fast rule.   Note there maybe other practitioners that utilize phrasing in place of "Deposit" but I don't think that would move the numbers much.   Good luck with the search of practitioners that meet your needs.   As for myself, a practitioner who would require a deposit isn't the business model I prefer.

Welcome to the forum @jackdallas. In this little corner of cyberspace, the deposits topic is akin to religion and politics. We don’t talk about it unless you want an endless, divisive pointless argument. Each side will die on hill. Nobody is changing their mind from what they already think. At best, we agree to disagree and have pizza. At worst, personal attacks prompt moderators to close the topic.
Others have pointed you in the right direction. Look there. If @56harrisond had a nickel for every time he graciously took time to search for and post relevant links…he could hire to his heart’s content for decades. Thank you!
Start or participate in deposits debates (battles? martyr spectacles? shit shows?) at your own risk!

I realize this is drifting off-topic, but I feel like you'd have to have spent the past 15 years on an isolated Island without electricity not to know who Taylor Swift is.

If anyone wants me to read any more posts in this damn sequence of replies about deposits (they have their uses), the colour (correct spelling 😉) of cars and whether providers are competitive (we’re not) then I’m going to require a deposit. A large one. 

I'm assuming Norway has a number of Fjord Escorts as well.

Oh no! The deposit question 😱…
Here’s the answer: the provider decides his business model and the hirer decides whether or not to play it. You do you. The end. 

Hi, I'm the site's search function. 
You can use me to find the endless threads about this very subject.
I'm in the upper-right corner.  

This all just seems so complicated.   I just text my guys, say hello and ask them how they are doing.  Then I ask if we can meet on x day at x time.  If it's good, great, if not we work together to figure something out.  Never any drama.

They might be trying to determine if you are going to Vietnam to do missionary work, of the religious kind.

Can this thread please be retitled 'Dare To Dream...  The Ever-Elusive Escort Operational Upgrade.'

@Casual
I know of many providers on the site. Only a small fraction post or participate with any regularity. Of those, some come and go, deciding to delete their account or just not log in for months. The majority of us are either unaware of the site (most) or choose not to engage with it. Their loss, but at the same time admittedly it takes a lot of time and energy to make our presence here worthwhile.
From time to time I alert providers I know of comments and they can choose to ignore or engage with the content. Some guys are hopeless when it comes to tact and understanding how to leverage the platform. Some of the long time active provider members here really get the value of investing our time in the platform and stick with an engagement strategy for the long haul.
I first discovered the forums when I was searching myself testing for other marketing purposes and came across some chatter about me when I was working in Dallas. Since then, I came to realize this is actually a really good business development tool. Many CoM clients have seen me in part due to my engagement here…and they love my work!
Several topics have come up in the forums re: sites to review clients. My short answer is no, it’s not a thing, at least not as extensive and widespread as it is for reviews of masseurs and providers. It would not behoove us providers to share about it if we did have such a thing. 
For others who come across this blurb, I realize it may be kind of weird to post here when the provider can see it and even respond. Positive comments are welcome, but I invite even negative comments about me because it challenges me to improve my business and how I deliver service. It keeps me honest and to own my mistakes and apologize for them and make things right. It also gives me a chance to clarify anything stated that was factually incorrect.
Opinions are a different matter. When someone doesn’t like my style, my look, how I handled something, or have some other opinion, oh well. It’s not personal, and I can take that criticism with maturity and respect. I won’t try to get it taken down or anything like that. A good provider can stand on his overall reputation and take a few hits here and there without suffering very much loss. I can’t please everyone 100% of the time, and I have no illusions of doing so, but I know I do a great job and my clients are happy with me.
Some of my Texas clients still visit me in California, and many of the others text me asking when I will be coming back. I know I’m not perfect, but with signs of loyalty like this, I know I’m doing something right.
Cheers to finding me. May the best providers find their place here too and make the most of it.

@Simon Suraciyou are a rare gem!  I have yet to meet you but can express that based upon your sensible comments and attitude.  I hope to meet you when you decide to come to the Big Apple.  Cheers!

you contacted him on Thursday and he replied on Sunday? he couldn't grab his phone to check messages in almost 4 days? Move on...

Perhaps looking at this routinely beaten dead horse discussion this way will help put things into perspective:
Like gridlocked political parties, you're probably not going to sway the other side with your point of view.
So...  Why waste your energy?  
You keep doing whatever works for you.  Don't try to control what other people do or don't do.
If you can follow these rules, life becomes so much easier.

^Thank you for the sarcasm 😊
Anyone that has ever lived with one or more roommates understands the natural limitations on hosting incalls.
I have had few problems seeing Spanish only clients and I only know words and phrases. I wonder how this is so different the other way around. We have translator apps and such which can get the basic messages across. 
Regarding rates, it’s a matter of what they are delivering. Seems irrelevant that they are from a different place or have limited English skills. If the guy is good, pay him what he is worth. Should you be unwilling to try a provider lacking reviews here or elsewhere, move on to the tried and true guys you know will deliver. 

Jesus christ, the sturm und drang on this thread.
Pay a deposit, don't pay a deposit...  It's your personal call.  You do you.  Whatever makes you comfortable.
These posts- pro or con- aren't going to change the entire industry.  Yet we keep on mastrubating.
 

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I've known someone who went through this.  The scarring on his legs was awful.  He said the pain was immense and that his surgeon said a lot of the people who go through this end up with pain pill addictions.  
Height is one of those born-with things I'm very, very thankful for.  It's served me well.
I'd agree in this instance that just because you can doesn't mean you should.
 
 

In my experience, that is just all across the entire gay universe, not just in this industry. Dismissive, undecided, full-of-it assholes are found everywhere in any industry that is service oriented. What I'd suggest is that is a person has wasted your time in the past, don't continue wasting your time entertaining him or trying to make a point. There's absolutely no gain on your part by doing that. Personally, I don't have to have the last word in every interaction. I can ghost, ignore and move on without having to explain things to people.
That same thing happens in dating and trying to meet people online. For example, last year I met a person online who was going to coincide with me in Barcelona. I proposed to meet and share a drink at a bar. I thought it will be great to meet a friend in person during vacation. We agreed on a date/time/place to do that (he actually suggested the place). The time was 10pm. I showed up at 10, he was nowhere to be found. I still had a great time, I shared with other people I met right there. Left the place about an hour later. The next day (get this), he told me that he was there at 8pm and left at 9pm, and went back to the place at 11:30pm. I'm sure he's a grown up man, so I don't have to explain to him what 10pm means or how time works. I just moved on. When he saw no reply from me, a day or two later, he sent me another message wishing me a good trip. Who knows what was going through his mind that he decided to purposely stand me up like that. Don't know, don't care, the important part is not to waste time entertaining people's games.
Another time was some guy I was dating way back when. I had something to do on a Saturday at 2pm. I told him that we can talk before 2pm or after 4pm, that I wasn't available between 2pm-4pm. That was before the popularity of mobile devices, so I had an answering maching at home. When I came back home at 4pm, there were about ten messages from him, getting nastier as they progressed, and they were all left between 2pm and 4pm. That last of those messages said things like "Why are you doing this to me?" Again, I didn't waste time entertainning nonsense. I was done with him right then and there.
Our word and your time are valuable. I personally do not get involved in arguments over other people's nonsense. Not having the last word is not as important as my own wellbeing or my valuable time.

Ha. Exactly.  When I buy bread I don’t think, gee, I should pay more because they had to build an oven. That implicit in the price. 

My doctor must rent an office and pay a staff. Should I tip him?  No: He charges for that in his fee. And so does your masseur. 
But, again, it’s your money. Give as much of it away as you like.   

holy cow, this is nothing new!!.....I don't know why the OP is so miffed!.......supply-and-demand......Econ 101........charge what the market will bear........consumers have a choice!

If someone is willing to suck your dick or take it up the . . . they can ask whatever price they want. Some will pay. Some will not. The market will decide. It’s clinical.  

I agree with others on wrapping up and getting out of there. Good on you for writing a review.
It sounds like the OP scenario was for an escort. The following is in response to @KensingtonHomo’s comment regarding masseurs.
Regarding the BJ, it’s perfectly reasonable for anyone to charge you for sex work (and that is what it is). It doesn’t matter who is giving or receiving. It’s all the same.
Massage has an appropriate rate for it depending on your local market. If we had no boundaries on what we will do for a massage fee, every massage would essentially be underpriced sex work, or overpriced massage. We certainly have the latter available with the $200+/hr massage guys all over. The former you will find masseurs not charging extra but being picky about what they do with whom.
If you don’t want them to be picky, pay for the services you want. If what he quotes you is too much, pass. Don’t expect a masseur to give it all away for free to anyone who asks…for a reasonable massage fee. When he does, be a gracious client and tip him generously.
Giving the option for extras, in my book, is fine. Nobody is begging you to suck their dick as if you’re doing them a big favor. The service is about YOU and making YOU happy, whatever it looks like for YOU.
Big caveat here. Upselling is unprofessional. If you (client) are asking for extras and the masseur quotes you, no harm done. He has every right to say no or offer additional services for a fee. If he suggests or offers without any indication from you that you want extras, take it as a sign of unprofessional behavior and move on to better providers. Find them right here on CoM.

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