Do you follow or ignore Auto-Reply directions on RentMen messenger?

[Jarrod_Uncut]

 

So this is the response that goes out each time I get a response on RM messenger. But what do some do? Start having a mini conversation with the auto responder, and don’t text as instructed. I’m asking for a very specific way to contact, and leaving my number and link to my website at the end.

Someone did the exact same thing yesterday, and I didn’t even notice it until the next day because I was busy anyway with plans. But the kicker was, the time he offered was simply: “asap” in a city that’s listed in my nearby travels and is 3.5 hours away; which I don’t offer same day appointments in generally. 
 

I’m finding it seems RM messenger guys might be hesitant or avoidant to give out their number. Idk why but, I would not meet anyone off solely the app unless they arranged a deposit and picture and even then, they would likely have to exchange their number unless it’s email only.

I feel if someone is going to treat the booking process like it’s un-important, how are they going to turn out during the actual meet 🤔 

Edited March 11 by Jarrod_Uncut

[jmichaeliii]

2 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

 

So this is the response that goes out each time I get a response on RM messenger. But what do some do? Start having a mini conversation with the auto responder, and don’t text as instructed. I’m asking for a very specific way to contact, and leaving my number and link to my website at the end.

Someone did the exact same thing yesterday, and I didn’t even notice it until the next day because I was busy anyway with plans. But the kicker was, the time he offered was simply: “asap” in a city that’s listed in my nearby travels and is 3.5 hours away; which I don’t offer same day appointments in generally. 
 

I’m finding it seems RM messenger guys might be hesitant or avoidant to give out their number. Idk why but, I would not meet anyone off solely the app unless they arranged a deposit and picture and even then, they would likely have to exchange their number unless it’s email only.

I feel if someone is going to treat the booking process like it’s un-important, how are they going to turn out during the actual meet 🤔 

Just this weekend I had the opposite mess happen.  Weeks in advance I made an arrangement to meet with a provider only to find out the night before he went to a location 2.5 hours different than we agreed.  I also gave him a deposit.

I will say, however, he acted with integrity and returned the deposit and also apologized.  I'm all about forgiving if someone makes it right, so we are scheduled to see each other in a couple weeks.

And that happened with us confirming the location via text the day before.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

2 hours ago, jmichaeliii said:

Just this weekend I had the opposite mess happen.  Weeks in advance I made an arrangement to meet with a provider only to find out the night before he went to a location 2.5 hours different than we agreed.  I also gave him a deposit.

I will say, however, he acted with integrity and returned the deposit and also apologized.  I'm all about forgiving if someone makes it right, so we are scheduled to see each other in a couple weeks.

And that happened with us confirming the location via text the day before.

Yikes, that’s a big stretch of a difference in location for sure. Hopefully it can be made up for…

[jmichaeliii]

Just now, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Yikes, that’s a big stretch of a difference in location for sure. Hopefully it can be made up for…

The real frustration was he never came to my area before, he came because I asked him to, then I never saw him anyway.  It's all good now.. he manned up admitted it was wrong and apologized.  He's going to come back in early April and stay where I asked him to.  I even got him a second booking.  I give him credit for taking a situation where he could have lost business and got trashed in reviews and turned it into two bookings and happy clients.  

[Jarrod_Uncut]

3 minutes ago, jmichaeliii said:

The real frustration was he never came to my area before, he came because I asked him to, then I never saw him anyway.  It's all good now.. he manned up admitted it was wrong and apologized.  He's going to come back in early April and stay where I asked him to.  I even got him a second booking.  I give him credit for taking a situation where he could have lost business and got trashed in reviews and turned it into two bookings and happy clients.  

Well that’s why I often try to ask questions always, in a 

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format because, it’s too much room for error. I would have been sure to know exactly where I was going/city all upfront. But then again that’s why I like to see text exchanges. It’s not to be messy or put anyone on blast, but when there’s 2 sides of a story, it’s easier to see what/how things might have went miscommunicated.

Like the buffoon last week texting me some bogus bullshit at 3 in the morning. But what I didn’t show is: his 2 week delay in response to my last message. That’s why I was like: fuck your advice, he can’t even respect my time why I would I take anything he has to say as relevant? ✋🏾 

Anyhow, how did that relate to RentMen messenger again? lol

[top_guy_atl]

Does your ad clearly state that email is a requirement, not a preference?  If so, then the auto-reply becomes irrelevant except to those who choose not to read, or don't think you're serious.  I use RM mainly on my laptop (for the larger pictures), so switching from RM messenger to text would annoy me since I would have to switch devices, but I know I'm not normal.  If I know from the ad that texting is a requirement and that's not acceptable to me, I wouldn't make contact in the first place.

Would I follow or ignore?  Probably ignore and move on, but it really depends on my level of horniness and availability of other providers.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

5 hours ago, top_guy_atl said:

Does your ad clearly state that email is a requirement, not a preference?  If so, then the auto-reply becomes irrelevant except to those who choose not to read, or don't think you're serious.  I use RM mainly on my laptop (for the larger pictures), so switching from RM messenger to text would annoy me since I would have to switch devices, but I know I'm not normal.  If I know from the ad that texting is a requirement and that's not acceptable to me, I wouldn't make contact in the first place.

Would I follow or ignore?  Probably ignore and move on, but it really depends on my level of horniness and availability of other providers.

I clearly let them know in the RentMen messenger reply that I don’t set up appointments on there, and that I leave my phone number and all other instructions/details to book the session. 
 

Now: for the record, I stopped posting my phone number on my ad, especially at the suggestions of a couple members here and other places I’ve researched. The RentMen messenger is more of an optional luxury that I use simply because of the auto reply feature. Now, RentMasseur email: I’ll use it and engage very briefly because it tends to be a bit more thorough in the responses. But most rentmen messages are far too “Grindr” like for me sit around all day and entertain. 
 

Now, as a courtesy I’ll occasionally respond to their message and let them know I received it and answer their question…but will add to still text me directly to arrange something because, most seem to be looking to meet for that day or, I don’t know when they want to meet and I can’t gauge it from simply communicating on the app. 
 

The app is simply a facilitator to the next mode of contact. I do not make appointments from it because it’s not really conducive.

[jmichaeliii]

This all just seems so complicated.   I just text my guys, say hello and ask them how they are doing.  Then I ask if we can meet on x day at x time.  If it's good, great, if not we work together to figure something out.  Never any drama.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

And here’s an example I refer to of WHY I don’t like to use messenger and give specific directions to contact me:

 

Dude sent message at what, 20:57 on a Saturday, which is almost 9 p.m. at night. I didn’t notice until 11:15 the next morning. Now notice the single ✅ versus the double ✅✅? 
 

He never read the last message and ignored my auto reply with direct info to text me. I never received any text message, but it wouldn’t of mattered either way because I don’t take short notice meets in that area anyway. Can’t make anything happen if they ignore the directions 🤦🏾‍♂️ 

Edited March 12 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Jarrod_Uncut]

5 minutes ago, jmichaeliii said:

This all just seems so complicated.   I just text my guys, say hello and ask them how they are doing.  Then I ask if we can meet on x day at x time.  If it's good, great, if not we work together to figure something out.  Never any drama.

That’s how it should be. No drama. You have a day in mind, and a time…If it doesn’t work I’ll offer mine. And we either can or don’t. 

[jmichaeliii]

1 minute ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

That’s how it should be. No drama. You have a day in mind, and a time…If it doesn’t work I’ll offer mine. And we either can or don’t. 

I show them respect and in return they treat me great and we always have a great time.  And they know I will book again.  They are my anchors.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

13 minutes ago, jmichaeliii said:

I show them respect and in return they treat me great and we always have a great time.  And they know I will book again.  They are my anchors.

Yeah, I just think some (gay) people have short attention spans. It just amazes me how detailed I have to explain stuff to people everyday. Like earlier, someone thought I was “already in town” even though the city he asked about was in my nearby travel cities.

I’m like dude, no. I’m not about to travel hours away for $200. And no…I’m not just arriving magically into a city and hanging out waiting for guys to call. That requires gas, hotel, food, and then somehow have to stay entertained in between clients. It’s not something that’s done by default with no clients Pre-booked. I’ve been the fool and did it many times, sometimes I still do because I want to go to a city for reasons other than clients: but then I’m waiting days to get the first real booking. I can’t explain it any more than I have already tried to explain it a million times. Rentmen and RentMasseur doesn’t even give us enough space to talk about these things in the profile. 
 

I’m trying to move towards a different model of business where I’m available by appointment only, and willing to travel. But if people can only think in the “now” and assume before actually getting the facts, it can get confusing. 

I realize part of the issue lies with the websites. It’s not always the clients or the escorts fault. It’s the communication platform has somehow not been sufficient in conveying to clients how providers work individually. 

Edited March 12 by Jarrod_Uncut

[jmichaeliii]

1 minute ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Yeah, I just think some (gay) people have short attention spans. It just amazes me how detailed I have to explain stuff to people everyday. Like earlier, someone thought I was “already in town” even though the city he asked about was in my nearby travel cities.

I’m like dude, no. I’m not about to travel hours away for $200. And no…I’m not just arriving magically into a city and hanging out waiting for guys to call. That requires gas, hotel, food, and then somehow have to stay entertained in between clients. It’s not fun. I can’t explain it any more than I have already tried to explain it a million times. Rentmen and RentMasseur doesn’t even give us enough space to talk about these things in the profile. 
 

I’m trying to move towards a different model of business where I’m available by appointment only, and willing to travel. But if people can only think in the “now” and assume before actually getting the facts, it can get confusing. 

I realize part of the issue lies with the websites. It’s not always the clients or the escorts fault. It’s the communication platform has somehow not been sufficient in conveying to clients how providers work individually. 

I actually changed jobs and made it so I could not travel to my guys, and to my surprise they were cool with traveling 90 minutes to meet me where I am now.  I thought that was really cool of then.  Of course I tip extra because I appreciate them doing that.

[+ nycman]

12 hours ago, jmichaeliii said:

Never any drama.

You’ve obviously never contacted @Jarrod_Uncut.

[Trick]

12 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Yeah, I just think some (gay) people have short attention spans.
 

Oh so now it’s the gay people’s fault.  Thank the gods for straight people.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

1 hour ago, nycman said:

You’ve obviously never contacted @Jarrod_Uncut.

And that has to do with me how? Nice that you find it convenient to relate me to something that wasn’t even referencing me.

56 minutes ago, Trick said:

Oh so now it’s the gay people’s fault.  Thank the gods for straight people.

Never said it was. I’m just saying what I know and have discussed as it pertains to communicating on apps. The attention spans can be short. 
 

And if I’m trying to meet clients from the platform and most are anywhere from 1 to 3 hours away from where I reside, I don’t have all the time to go back and forth to get tidbits of info. I rather have those details first upfront and then be able to quickly figure out whether this is someone I can accommodate today, or not.

Edited March 12 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Archbishop]

I will send a hi how are you message if I’m interested in someone new to see if their auto reply has rate info. And I’ve seen more guys without their phone numbers listed so messenger is the only way to initially contact them.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

14 hours ago, Archbishop said:

I will send a hi how are you message if I’m interested in someone new to see if their auto reply has rate info. And I’ve seen more guys without their phone numbers listed so messenger is the only way to initially contact them.

Part of the reason may be because, when I leave my phone number up…I get bombarded by spam messages like this:

 

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Not to mention the ones who call out the blue when I mainly prefer just text. 
 

HOWEVER, even though I let messenger be the initial contact, I have explicit instructions to text me. However, if they respond to the auto reply or say nothing at all…then I’m not going to take time out of my day to engage, because they probably just playing. 

[pubic_assistance]

On 3/10/2024 at 4:31 PM, Jarrod_Uncut said:

I'm finding it seems RM messenger guys might be hesitant or avoidant to give out their number. Idk why

Because some men are on the down-low from their family and prefer to keep conversations discreet.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

10 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Because some men are on the down-low from their family and prefer to keep conversations discreet.

Before RM, nobody had access to an instant messenger option. They’d have to call, text or email. Most providers would not answer a blocked number.

There’s various phone options available if someone wishes to be discreet. Plus I find most people who don’t want to exchange numbers aren’t doing so because they’re so discreet. Just paranoid. 

That’s about as similar as the ones who would call private, and usually never show up. I’m already meeting you with likely no face or idea what you look like. Something that they probably wouldn’t dream of doing themselves. Damn sure not going to have me meeting with no phone number.

 

Edited March 13 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Decatur Guy]

My first question is always about rates. Because we can't see them.

So if the auto reply  indicates the provider wants me to propose a possible time and date and place before I even can even ask about his rates and what I might can expect, I simply don't follow up on text or on RM. 

It sucks we need to ask rates, but we do. If auto reply includes his rates or otherwise indicates it's OK to make an inquiry about that, then I'll contact by text.
 

Edited March 13 by Decatur Guy

[Jarrod_Uncut]

2 hours ago, Decatur Guy said:

My first question is always about rates. Because we can't see them.

So if the auto reply  indicates the provider wants me to propose a possible time and date and place before I even can even ask about his rates and what I might can expect, I simply don't follow up on text or on RM. 

It sucks we need to ask rates, but we do. If auto reply includes his rates or otherwise indicates it's OK to make an inquiry about that, then I'll contact by text.
 

That is a reasonable approach. That’s why I have included the time and date plus reference to my rates (starting at 200). But of course, all the time I get, “how much is your rate?” when I have the details for it listed in my ad. Which shows they didn’t read the ad. I don’t know how they find my number, before reading the ad. 
 

Like I say, I have mentioned to the sites about how they NEED to bring back transparency on rates (even RentMasseur who allows rates, people either don’t read it or see the one rate and expect it to cover everything). 
 

With this tik tok nonsense though, idk if things are going to get any simpler. Hence why I’m staying ahead of the game with my website and contact card. And I need to start putting my rates on it too and just sending that before I respond to anything. 

Edited March 14 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Jarrod_Uncut]

And another thing: I am just noticing a lot of weird shit happening from the RentMen messenger area. Guys contact and then don’t respond back, only to come around months later and not respond again:

 

Never replied back, even when I left my contact info and details. Now the same guy:

 

And then he doesn’t respond back again 🤷🏾‍♂️ Granted I’ve not wrote him off yet, but it’s this type of stuff that’s about to compel me to cut all access to communication on RentMen and RentMasseur and only be contacted thru my website.

This is why I’ve once again wrote to RentMen asking for changes. And if the person had any issue with my policy, why come back around again and reach out? If he can remember from 2017-18 then he certainly can remember from September. 
 

It’s just way too many games out here. I’m trying hard not to close my RentMen messenger access, but each week I’m feeling pressed to. It’s become too much of a “Grindr”, where guys expect us to stay on there and small talk with them round the clock, and we don’t even get paid for that. RentMen needs to convert that to a paid function for US, if potential clients expect us to keep engaging.

Edited March 15 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Boaxxx]

Okay let's get back to the basic question of follow or ignore.

I tend to follow the autoresponder instructions if I am really interested in the provider, understanding that he may not be checking the site regularly. I would even say that I like autoresponder because I get an instant response which provides helpful information in most cases. I also realize that providers aren't sitting in front of their laptop or staring at their phone waiting to reply instantly to messages on the app. At least when I text someone directly I know there is a better likelihood of him seeing the  message sooner than a message left on the app. 

Plus I'm a sub so I always follow orders/instructions.😈

Edited March 15 by Boaxxx

[DWnyc]

On 3/13/2024 at 6:38 PM, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Something that they probably wouldn’t dream of doing themselves

They’re not the provider, you are …