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Yeah love the guys who say in their profile “all my pictures are within the last 3 months” but they’ve had the same pics up for 2 years! 

A lot of people mentioned no reviews or not many 5 star reviews 
my twist on that would be if you look through the reviews and it’s pretty damn obvious that half of them are written by the same person, the same writing style, the same narrative etc.
and inconsistencies … some are stupid enough to have contradictions in their profile and stats .., so they’re “bottom only” in one place but “love topping” somewhere else … or 28 in the stats but 32 in the text … I can forgive fiddling with stats to make the cut for whether a client calls or not (eg 29 yo as you’re worried 30 rules you out for people) … but not the sloppiness of the different details on the same page 
 

That wouldn’t be a problem … if you didn’t get a reply saying “what, you think I’m available all the time?? “ 😊

Together with “everything they told your (ie anyone older than 30) generation about condoms was a lie”
The kids today don’t appreciate the medical miracles of Prep and ART - and they also think condoms were some sort of good luck charm used in pagan worship before the arrival of true religion made people realize they were always ridiculous. 

What do providers lie about? Probably the same things general folks do in hookup posts -— 
- age (what you can get away with … except many just can’t and still insist on it)
- dick size (when fully fully fully hard …and maybe it’s the clients fault he can’t get there 😊)
- height (unless your partner is standing next to you and of similar height it won’t really be noticed if it’s an inch or two that’s fudged)
- health status (not touching that one given the sensitivity …)
- safe sex practices 
- Pnp comfort 
- top / btm / vers capabilities and preference (two different things)
In short - everything really.
oh and photos that are clearly out of date - I laugh whenever I see one provider in my area insist all his photos are from the last 3 months (he looks different if you compare them) and he’s had that up with the same photos for at least 3 years) 
what was the original question again? 😊
Now if you want to be up for the first screening and not rejected before the potential client has even taken a look at your post, you want to maximize odds - and many if not most use filters - and they cover pretty much all of the above 
Tbh I can live with the age lie if they can get away with it. Less so on some of the other ones. Each to their own. It’s all a fantasy - I’m not going to seek 100% integrity from a hobby that is built on secrecy and fantasy.

Do you mean he complained you didn’t give him an outstanding review? That raises a flag.   

Yeah love the guys who say in their profile “all my pictures are within the last 3 months” but they’ve had the same pics up for 2 years! 

Provider should also turn down work if unable to perform. This isn’t a boyfriend experience in the genuine sense. 

Masseurs offering erotic or sensual who take offense if you indicate you want something more …
lroviers in general taking (or should I say faking) offense at anything
fine if an individual provider doesn’t offer a service (that’s not the part that annoys me) and a client should figure that out before confirming an appointment, but in this industry I find it so disingenuous to act like there is moral outrage at the idea of something that isn’t atypical with other providers or in regular male-male interaction.
 
 
 

New York - a large metropolis with small incestuous pockets  

If it’s a recurring issue - with due respect are you perhaps allowing the bad ones to take advantage of you not protesting / maybe that’s being communicated in your time with them.
I’ve had both ends of this causing stress - either feeling shortchanged on time or the provider wanting to keep going (even if not wanting to charge for that) and I’m in a hurry or not really that into it and ready to quit.
 

It’s kind of like being “naturally str8”

If it’s a recurring issue - with due respect are you perhaps allowing the bad ones to take advantage of you not protesting / maybe that’s being communicated in your time with them.
I’ve had both ends of this causing stress - either feeling shortchanged on time or the provider wanting to keep going (even if not wanting to charge for that) and I’m in a hurry or not really that into it and ready to quit.
 

I told one provider (as a compliment) that he must be understating his measurements, he said if he was accurate in listing numbers people wouldn’t believe him and in turn would question the other stats, or that something was wrong with him / he’d had surgery etc.
 
 

I told one provider (as a compliment) that he must be understating his measurements, he said if he was accurate in listing numbers people wouldn’t believe him and in turn would question the other stats, or that something was wrong with him / he’d had surgery etc.
 
 

I’ve been blocked many times by providers and while I can’t know for certain I would think reasons include the following:
- provider thought I was a time waster, perhaps asking too many questions instead of booking when they thought I should have enough info
- I requested canceling or postponing and they may have thought I was playing games 
- something came up they weren’t willing to do or offer (eg use condoms)
- I indicate whether directly or not that the rate doesn’t work, particularly if they have a round of offering a revised rate and I still don’t accept (since I never counter offer it would only be them initiating new rate discussions) 
- they don’t have a face pic, I don’t jump to book them asap, so perhaps they take it personally or think I don’t find them a match so what’s the point 
- they are drunk or high and acting in a way that can’t necessarily be explained logically 
- I wouldn’t play by their rules that aren’t typical in the hobby - eg provide my “real” number, name or other identifying info or a photo 
- I do agree to send a photo and … lol then we start overlapping with Grindr rules …
Actually apart from the rate discussion most of this is similar to hookup etiquette except you would think providers want to maximize revenue so wouldn’t make it impossible for someone to contact them or behave in a way that damages their reputation 
Funniest is a provider who blocked me, got a new profile which I checked out, when I realized who it was I told him I remembered him blocking me so no beee to discuss further, he then says that can’t be he never blocks anyone, that’s not the way his mother raised him etc etc, send him a pic or remind him who I am … so I do … and within seconds he blocks me 

I’ve been blocked many times by providers and while I can’t know for certain I would think reasons include the following:
- provider thought I was a time waster, perhaps asking too many questions instead of booking when they thought I should have enough info
- I requested canceling or postponing and they may have thought I was playing games 
- something came up they weren’t willing to do or offer (eg use condoms)
- I indicate whether directly or not that the rate doesn’t work, particularly if they have a round of offering a revised rate and I still don’t accept (since I never counter offer it would only be them initiating new rate discussions) 
- they don’t have a face pic, I don’t jump to book them asap, so perhaps they take it personally or think I don’t find them a match so what’s the point 
- they are drunk or high and acting in a way that can’t necessarily be explained logically 
- I wouldn’t play by their rules that aren’t typical in the hobby - eg provide my “real” number, name or other identifying info or a photo 
- I do agree to send a photo and … lol then we start overlapping with Grindr rules …
Actually apart from the rate discussion most of this is similar to hookup etiquette except you would think providers want to maximize revenue so wouldn’t make it impossible for someone to contact them or behave in a way that damages their reputation 
Funniest is a provider who blocked me, got a new profile which I checked out, when I realized who it was I told him I remembered him blocking me so no beee to discuss further, he then says that can’t be he never blocks anyone, that’s not the way his mother raised him etc etc, send him a pic or remind him who I am … so I do … and within seconds he blocks me 

I fall into the category of it being more common they do come or even express that they want to.
I don’t need them to come and sometimes I’m sure they’ve asked “do you want me to …” and my reply is something like “I’m sure you’d prefer to save your energy for other meetings today”.
I’ve actually been surprised at how many seem to want it. I doubt it’s being satisfied by me - perhaps more just release of energy and maybe it helps them rest between appointments or before something they actually want to do.
More than once I’ve even had providers express frustration if we ended before they climaxed - one guy insisted we keep going so he could come and I assumed he meant pay him for more time … so that turned into a bit of an unpleasant ending as I insisted on leaving and he gave me a dirty look as I walked out! 

A reminder of what this means.
in a world where unpaid sex through hooking up apps easier to find by the day, providers who sit calculating “inflation” without understanding the true implication of what that means, may find, as they themselves age, that they are left with nothing rather then something
Quote them whatever you want. Unless you have a gun to someone’s head (do you?), if they don’t want to pay they won’t engage you.

Oh, honey... 

The idea isn't doing much for me.   I don't think it does much for the professional service I like to present to my clients.     
 

I’ve accompanied clients to saunas in the past. It’s not very common but it has happened and I see no problem with it if it is genuinely what the client wants.
A couple of times it was because the clients were too anxious to go to a sauna alone (both were first timers) so it was simple to book me to accompany them and be exclusive to them at the sauna, and show them the etiquette. 
There’s a big fear of being at a sauna and no one is interested in you and both clients had that anxiety. They wanted me to go in with them, stay with them and play with them (one was happy to do that in the open areas of the sauna, the other guy preferred using a cabin). It worked fine, the clients realised that going to a sauna need not be such a daunting experience. 
I don’t think it’s any different to say going to the cinema or for a meal with the client. You’re going to a sauna, it could be that you simply use the sauna to sit and chat. As for being seen with a sex worker I don’t think it’s much of an issue if you’re in a sauna. What’s everyone else there for?
I have been at a sauna with a client when I saw another client but at first I didn’t recognise him. He found me later on when I was showering alone while my client was getting dressed and introduced himself. I had to apologise to him because I realised I’d ignored him. He found it funny but he realised I was ‘working’. At least I was being discreet and didn’t introduce him to my other client. 
 
 

 

I remember meeting an escort in a sauna on Van Ness Avenue (San Francisco) and getting a private room. It was certainly fun but if I have to choose I'd rather a good bed. 
Sex parties? I wouldn't be surprised if someone takes an escort to a party like that to play with him but the whole point is getting free fun I presume. 

Unless my disposable income is going up by at least the same amount as inflation …
… after paying for higher priced essentials (eg groceries, gas, rent, heating, electricity)
… I’m afraid I may have less to spend on a provider 
Add to that the double down effect of a provider raising his prices when I have less to spend on him …
and I’m not sure I’ll be playing as much as I once did