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    Whippoorwill reacted to justanoldguy in Providers that aren't into kissing nor giving oral   
    Those are 2 of the many reasons I hired you and will do so as often as possible. (Of course your smoking hot body, interesting personality and sexy attitude don't hurt either)
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    Whippoorwill reacted to + IronMaus in Providers that aren't into kissing nor giving oral   
    I've never understood them, but I'm thankful for providers that do not kiss or give oral because they make me more popular.
    If they say they are into kissing and then don't, THAT is unforgiveable.
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    Whippoorwill reacted to + sniper in Providers that aren't into kissing nor giving oral   
    Well he said he'd been getting colds maybe it was a new restriction?
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    Whippoorwill reacted to pubic_assistance in Providers that aren't into kissing nor giving oral   
    Maybe he was used to older lovers and felt the BFE was a matter of you taking him shopping ? 😂
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    Whippoorwill reacted to arnie in Providers that aren't into kissing nor giving oral   
    I just hired a guy.  Almost fell through because he told me no kissing and no oral.  I told him that the I could live with the no oral by him, ( I really was more interested in giving anyway, but no kissing was a deal killer.  He reconsidered as he had been getting colds and felt that was the cause,  but I guess he needed the job.   But he apparently gets enough work to  pay his bills.  But the thing that puzzles me the most is that while a top, he provides a BFE experience.  Who doesn't kiss their boyfriend?
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    Whippoorwill got a reaction from Casual in Something unexpected or surprising during a massage?   
    My first massage, ever, was when I was 23 and an American living in Tehran. This when the Shah was in the process of modernizing the country, before the Mullahs dragged Iran back a thousand years into the dark ages. A group of American buddies and I were together, when one of our friends came back from a bath house infuriated that the masseur had put the make on him. Well, I already knew, from young Iranian friends, that gay sex was rampant in Iran, where boys and girls were strictly kept apart. What's a teenage boy to do to get his rocks off? But the bathhouse culture was unknown to me so anything was unexpected. 
    At my first opportunity, I went to the same bathhouse and paid (the same) 25¢ for a massage. At that time, (1967) many private houses did not have bathrooms and visiting the bathhouse was a necessary as well cultural practice. A straight Iranian man would wrap himself in a towel that was provided, which kept the jewels and the bum off limits. I of course, laid naked on the massage table. The masseur took one look, went for the goods, and demanded another 25¢ and we went to town. I was only too happy to pay.
    This of course began the period when I began indulge in the lifelong wonderful joys of bottoming.
    Over the years as an American out-gay, I have had all kinds of relationships with casual tricks, lovers, masseurs, fuckbuddies, etc. A few years ago, when I needed something new and exciting, I went to a provider on RentMasseur who turned out to be more "rent" than "masseur." After a long time on my stomach and wondering when he was going to ask me tot turn over, his cock was in my ass and pumping. Oh my! 
    A long way of saying, yes, something unexpected. 
    Now, I try and set things up for the same result but more expected. We all need connection. Sex is a great connector. Yes, let's have a great massage. Let us enjoy each other's bodies. And let's have great connected sex. And yes please fuck me. At my age and financial situation, I am happy to pay a young man...it meets his needs and mine. 
     
     
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    Whippoorwill got a reaction from Dr.Daddy in Massage turned escort session - LA   
    I have had that experience with Rocco in Hawaii a couple of years ago. He is based in Yuma AZ but is frequently in LA and Honolulu. I see from his ad, he will be in LA May 2-4 on his way to Hawaii. (He also advertises on RentMen). I'd do it again!
    Rocco on RentMasseur
    RENTMASSEUR.COM View my profile on RentMasseur.com  
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    Whippoorwill reacted to Marc in Calif in Recommendation needed for lube   
    Is that what the driver uses to get the "tip" out of you at your destination? 🥰
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    Whippoorwill reacted to + BenjaminNicholas in Sensual vs Erotic   
    This reminds me of the difference between kinky and perverted
    Kinky is using a feather.
    Perverted is using the whole chicken.
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    Whippoorwill reacted to + DrownedBoy in Sensual vs Erotic   
    Why does it not surprise me that someone named @Becket is searching for Jesus. 😄
     
    BACK TO TOPIC - How common is it for masseurs (not escorts) to be willing to French kiss?
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    Whippoorwill reacted to Becket in Sensual vs Erotic   
    Jesus is risen! Alleluia! May he continue to rise.
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    Whippoorwill reacted to Marc in Calif in Sensual vs Erotic   
    I think you have to wait three more days for that! 
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    Whippoorwill reacted to Jamie21 in Sensual vs Erotic   
    Absolutely he does, he advertises a second cumming. 
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    Whippoorwill reacted to pubic_assistance in Lack of reviews a problem?   
    Yes. I do hire because I am able to meet people who are better looking than I may be able to snag on my own, now that I'm over 50....but...
    ..that said. I absolutely agree that chemistry goes beyond looks.
    I always tell people and this is the honest to God's truth: The hottest looking person I ever slept with was probably the most disappointing sex I've ever had.  And someone who I had initially rejected because they weren't "hot enough" ended up being some of the hottest sex I ever had. 
    So..I agree. Chemistry is important
     
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    Whippoorwill reacted to Simon Suraci in Lack of reviews a problem?   
    This is my opinion here, not speaking for anyone else:
    Mutual physical attraction is not a prerequisite to good chemistry.
    I’ve had excellent chemistry with conventionally unattractive men, and zero (if not negative) chemistry with conventionally attractive 10s. Also the reverse, and everything inbetween. We are more than our bodies and our looks. There is something spiritual and special about intimate contact with another human being that transcends the way we look. Good chemistry flows from that connection.
    Feel free @pubic_assistance to disagree and I will agree to disagree. I am familiar with how strongly physical attraction factors into your hiring experience, and that’s fine for you. This is my perspective in light of my experience, without regard to how others see things. Physical attraction certainly can help fuel chemistry, but it’s not the end-all-be-all.
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    Whippoorwill reacted to Simon Suraci in Shorted time from masseurs you like...   
    I work hard to retain my clients. I learn what they like and lean into it. I find my long term client appointments keep getting better and better, both for massage and ‘more’. Some of them transition from the former to the latter, or some combination. The relationship and quality of interaction tends to build up over time rather than erode. I value my clients.
    Anyone that felt I shorted them on time I would like to hear directly about it so that I can make it right. I go the whole time, and often a little over. If your guy gaslights or dismisses you when you bring up the time shorting issue, it’s time to move on. This is an expensive service. You’re paying a premium. You deserve quality service for the whole time you booked. Period.
    Repeat business is the best and easiest business. It pays to be diligent in providing the full time (quantity) but also quality time matters. Guys that don’t understand this concept baffle me! 
    ^This is only true if we were paid like a full time employees billing something like 2080 hours per year. Our profession doesn’t work that way. Our booked (and therefore compensated) hours represent a fraction of full time, perhaps 20-30 hours per week. It’s possible, but unusual for a masseur to be booked more than 40 hours per week. At a bare minimum, I have 30 min gaps between back-to-back clients and that prevents me from booking 40+ hours per week, even when every day is 100% booked in a given week.
    For some of us with other jobs, we may only book 10-15 hours a week. You better believe we spend 10-20 hours (or more) per week on all the UNPAID (yet necessary) parts of the job like responding to endless inquiries at all hours of the day/night, many of which never lead to a completed appointment. Marketing, client follow up, cleaning, laundry, shopping, continuing education, prep work, personal care, gym (if you count that), client development, outcall transportation to/from clients (including traffic and being early to always arrive on time), equipment setup/takedown, restocking supplies, clients flaking last minute or no-shows, etc…. all take gobs of time.
    We are compensated a high rate for the time clients actually book and show up for, NOT for all the other work we do. So cut that $300,000+ “salary” down accordingly. The rates you pay us factor all that extra work in. Some weeks or months are slow. Some days we have no work because of bad weather and clients flake. Other times we travel and have back to back work all day. It varies. 
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    Whippoorwill reacted to Monarchy79 in Rate question (no its not what you think)   
    Absolutely not. 

    If someone states their price, respect it and either book them or not. 
     
    Haggling appears to be an annoyance (and sometimes insulting), to many service providers. 
    Once a guy respond to you with his rate, a simple “Thank You”, is sufficient. 
    Then move on to someone who’s pricing is comparable to your standards of payment. 
     
     
     
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    Whippoorwill reacted to Jamie21 in Rate question (no its not what you think)   
    I get asked for discounts…the answer is always ‘no’. Usually the client goes away without booking which is good because I don’t want to see them. In the instances when they do book (paying the normal rate) there’s usually hassle: they either cancel last minute, turn up late or when it comes to paying their credit card doesn’t work etc. There’s always some drama to their session.

    Asking for a discount is a red flag to me. If my rate is too much for you by asking for a discount what you’re effectively saying to me is “I don’t think you’re worth what you think you’re worth”. That’s not a good start and in my experience it doesn’t improve so that’s why discount requests result in no booking. There’s enough clients out there who will pay the rate so why reduce it? 
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    Whippoorwill reacted to Simon Suraci in Tissue Paper   
    Some clients are completely oblivious. I even wipe some of them, without saying anything. They still show up in similar condition the next time. I don’t do any butt play when that’s the case. Until they start complaining about a lack of attention down there, I see no need to make a big deal of it. I am embarrassed FOR them, but I know they are just completely out of touch with their bodies and how these things work. If they DO communicate they want attention there, I will bring it up.
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    Whippoorwill got a reaction from + Vegas_Millennial in Are e-mails essentially the way of the dinosaur by providers?   
    I have found in my normal business life, emails may take weeks to get a response. Or never. Texts often get instant replies, or at least timely. Remember faxes? Or snail mail? Or telegrams? Communications technology has changed. No different with this hobby. 
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    Whippoorwill got a reaction from Sinclaire in Providers removing erotic, & current clientele not liking it.   
    Three different experiences with three different masseurs over the years.
    1) Excellent masseur who I had been seeing for several years for erotic massages. One time I called up for an appointment, and he said something like: "I have to tell you I am in therapy and my therapist and I have agreed I am not doing erotic massages any more, just therapeutic. If you don't want to see me anymore that is absolutely fine, and I can even recommend someone else who is very good and does erotic massages." I said that was fine, that I was happy to get his excellent therapeutic massages. I got two or three strictly therapeutic massages, and then he was back to full service. He simply needed to know that at least some people valued him for his massage skills, and not just sex...that he was regarded as a professional masseur not an escort. When he saw that was true, he and his therapist were fine with him doing erotic massages. 
    2) Another excellent regular, who only advertised therapeutic and sensual, not erotic. After my first massage that ended with a HE, I said I would write a review. He said "Please only say sensual, not erotic. I am here on a student visa and have a government scholarship, and I don't want to jeopardize them." He was from a country with different laws and societal expectations. Fair enough. I assume most if not all of his clients got the full service. He just needed to feel safe. 
    3) Yet another excellent regular from another country, whose every massage was "therapeutic, sensual and erotic" in his own words. One time as I was leaving he got a text from a former client who wanted to stop by for 10 minutes for a BJ. For language-skill reasons, he asked me to check his reply, which was "No I will not do that. I prefer to do massage." Again, he needed to feel that clients are coming to see him for his professional massage skills, not only for sex, even though every massage includes sexual acts. 
    Life is complicated and human beings are complicated. We all rationalize some things that may not be rational on the surface. What is important is for everyone to appreciate that understanding, direct honest communication and empathy go a long way. 
    That being said, at some point this masseur acquired a live-in boyfriend, who was living off the masseur's income, and then complaining about the source of the money. One day I arrived and the masseur said that the bf didn't like him doing massages in the nude, that he was leaving his bikini underwear on. I said that was nuts...that the bf was living off the income from the sexual services, was ok or at least resigned to the erotic massages, but wanted his bf to hide the family jewels? I said, "Just tell him you're leaving the bikini on when you are with a client, and then do what you want. You don't have to tell your bf everything...everyone has secrets." He said, "I can? Oh wow. I didn't know I could do that." Off came the bikini and he happily continues to provide the nude interactive services as before. Ah, an inexperienced youth. 
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    Whippoorwill got a reaction from bichiguy in What area of the body do you want touched first for a massage?   
    I have a regular provider where we start off talking with each other and catching up on what is going on in our lives...out of genuine interest and caring...all while we are getting undressed. Then we continue standing, arms around each other, naked body against naked body, talking, playing, caressing, doing what we know stimulates the other. And at some point we each know when it is time to get on the table for the massage. The orgasm is something like three-quarters into the 90 minute massage, giving time to wind down, relax and begin the rest of the day totally at peace. Works for me. 
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    Whippoorwill got a reaction from + bashful in What a load!   
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjpBqhHpEx2tJJG1wyCk9AZe9l_cZZbsi0y9eTpo2iYikLc9lt2TD6_gceZWkYZK4BFFZjYFW4gNWei_Tf_SAAN5Ql1Ao0tgyXdeHEr1-5ddAGrtZyPzT1Vid1FRJL4B4XQzR4XxsGz5YRFFXHqSxXrc5iZGb2xmzybYBgxUb0ob1Mw7pEJfYiZE9UJk22G/s664/GFG-2024-00787.jpg
    Thanks Whitman. This one reminds me of the good old days when you could get into any office building without going through security, and the world was full of active T-rooms. I remember once checking myself in the mirror as I was leaving, all suited and tied, and saw there was a big stream of cum running down my chin. Always had a rag and can of cleaning fluid in my desk drawer. 
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    Whippoorwill reacted to TT3690 in I Hired Him Once. It Was Good But Not Great. [Etiquette question]   
    I think your noncommittal text without any follow up works
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    Whippoorwill reacted to + BenjaminNicholas in I Hired Him Once. It Was Good But Not Great. [Etiquette question]   
    You're overthinking this.
    'No, thank you, I'm not looking for company' will suffice.
    All very simple.
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