What do you do when he wants payment upfront?

[JayCeeKy]

"Screw me once, shame on you.....screw me twice, shame on me!"

 

“There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”

 

--- George W. Bush

[Rudynate]

I almost always do incalls, occasionally I host at a hotel. At a hotel, I always leave the cash out in sight. Incalls are interesting. I have the cash ready in my pocket and I have a tip ready, separate from the payment, but then we usually get into it pretty quickly after I arrive, so I forget about putting the cash out. When we're wrapping up, I leave it out in plain sight. One of my quirks is that I don't like to just leave the cash by the bed. I like to leave it someplace nice. So if there's a desk or a nice plate on a dresser where he leaves his change and his keys, I leave it there. Its never been a problem. I have, on occasion, handed him the cash directly, but its weird, so I would rather not.

[excelntsvc]

cash is always on display .. only had one guy ever make a beeline for it and I got it first ... he started to act out so I picked up the hotel phone to call security and he bolted from the hotel ... silly boy, he had used the hotel valet and was unable to provide my last name ... they called to ask for authorization ... I assured them the fee was on HIM

[+ tassojunior]

I'd call your bluff on option 2 and have a very fun story to tell! The bank will exchange mutilated bills if 75%+ of the bill is present.

 

Banks won't take 50% of a bill. Both serial #'s have to be present I think too. In any person-to-person transaction with a lot of risk, cutting a bill in two is proof you're not intending to keep the money, but rather only intend on withholding it from the other person if they don't perform their part. Shows punks you have street smarts.

[+ Pensant]

I think this has been discussed on numerous threads. I think it shows an uncouth level of avarice on the part of the provider unless it’s a repeat encounter with one who is trusted. All the comments are advisable!

[Man Crush Morris]

If the guy a young, muscular, masculine, handsome guy, I do as he says.

[+ nycman]

If asked and you refuse to pay upfront, what’s your end game?

My end game?...my "end game"...is the door hitting him in the ass on his way out empty handed.

 

This is something you should make clear in emails before the meet. I do not pay up-front, just so you know.

It's a two way street. I have no problem with a provider having a "payment up front" policy.

I personally would never agree to it and would never meet someone who had such a requirement.

Nonetheless, I support the right of any business man to conduct his business any way he chooses.

 

Waiting until your in my hotel room to reveal your "requirement"....gets you quickly but politely shown to the door.

I used to give escorts a chance to "back down" from their request. Even those that did...I regretted it. They still were

crappy escorts....so now I just ask them to leave. Period.

[+ Keith30309]

I would have a difficult time enjoying time with someone I'd had a spat with.

 

I'm curious: for those who decline to pay in advance, how many of the escorts change their minds and agree to accept payment AFTER the time? In cases when the session does complete is there any change in the interaction, like a a lack of trust or lessened intimacy or some other intangible satisfier?

 

Or is it pretty much a transactional get in, get off, get out.

[Stormy]

99 percent of the time you are in for a bad experience. Cut your losses. Give him 40 dollars and tell him to leave

[Milo Farnsworth]

Anyone remember Mike Marino? This is going back to 1990. He wanted to be paid upfront, which I did. He then proceeded to want to move around - clearly to annoy me. I had enough and went to take most it back. He threatened to throw me thru a wall. I knew he wouldn't since we were at his place. Needless to say he intimidated me, got my money and I got nothing but taken from. Lesson learned.

[+ freecahill1965]

Another thread made me want to ask about escorts and upfront payments.

 

Everyone seems to agree to not pay upfront- but what exactly do you say when asked?

 

If the escort has arrived and is standing there and says "Before we begin, I need payment upfront" - it's unlikely anyone just says "No." and then everything proceeds wonderfully from there.

 

So how would you handle that and not end up with a walk-out or an awkward situation?

I did it one time. The experience was a nightmare. I had just joined the forum. I posted the incident. The wording of my posting was considered a review. I was banned for a short time. I choose my words carefully now.

[Man Crush Morris]

Needless to say he intimidated me, got my money and I got nothing but taken from. Lesson learned.

 

It's funny, my best regular escort experience was with a guy that intimidated me a little bit. A little intimidating but that made him more exciting to me.

[rustyrex]

Happened just this weekend...payed thru an app....he gave a lengthy explanation of why, said some guy took off without giving him a dime. I gave him his donation up front but after reading this I feel like that was a dumb move. Next time I'll do flash the cash as proof until the goods are delivered.

[+ VictorPowers]

Banks won't take 50% of a bill. Both serial #'s have to be present I think too. In any person-to-person transaction with a lot of risk, cutting a bill in two is proof you're not intending to keep the money, but rather only intend on withholding it from the other person if they don't perform their part. Shows punks you have street smarts.

Given the scenario, you'd have all of the bills accounted for.

[rvwnsd]

Banks won't take 50% of a bill. Both serial #'s have to be present I think too. In any person-to-person transaction with a lot of risk, cutting a bill in two is proof you're not intending to keep the money, but rather only intend on withholding it from the other person if they don't perform their part. Shows punks you have street smarts.

If the currency is truly mutilated, the bank will accept it, provide the customer with a receipt, and forward to the Bureau of Engraving and Printing. They will not immediately provide the customer credit for the deposit. Upon confirmation from BEC that the currency is valid the bank would credit the customer's account for the amount of currency that was turned in.

 

As to the original question, I don't pay up front. Period. I had one provider ask upon arriving to see the money, which I thought was fair and so I showed it to him. The only other time I was asked to pay up front was during the initial emails to set up the playdate. The guy wanted to be paid in advance. I told him that I make it a practice not to pay in advance and so the date never happened.

[+ tassojunior]

I would have a difficult time enjoying time with someone I'd had a spat with.

 

I'm curious: for those who decline to pay in advance, how many of the escorts change their minds and agree to accept payment AFTER the time? In cases when the session does complete is there any change in the interaction, like a a lack of trust or lessened intimacy or some other intangible satisfier?

 

Or is it pretty much a transactional get in, get off, get out.

 

A trick is a trick. Most guys have a set routine they have been through hundreds of times. Transactional. Like an oil change.

 

I have never had one back out because I wouldn't pay up front. I did have one take the 20% to leave offer and I'm pretty sure he was a heroin addict needing a fix. Otherwise they're testing to see if anyone is dumb enough to pay first. Not many are.

[+ tassojunior]

If the currency is truly mutilated, the bank will accept it, provide the customer with a receipt, and forward to the Bureau of Engraving and Printing. They will not immediately provide the customer credit for the deposit. Upon confirmation from BEC that the currency is valid the bank would credit the customer's account for the amount of currency that was turned in.

 

I doubt anyone's looking for that long a process. They'd expect to get the 2nd half of each bill as payment and tape them back together.

[MassageDrew]

I’ve never experienced where I was asked to pay upfront but I can understand masseurs asking for it upfront if they happened to get screwed over by a client in the past. I would give him the base fee upfront then possibly the extra tip after if needed.

[Bargara Leatherboy]

I have a couple of regulars who insist on payment up front. One states that very clearly on this website - he is a total professional and I have nil issue with that. Sometimes he asks for it, sometimes I offer it, we have a very brief confirmation about was that a 2 or 3 hr booking - I always pop the donation in an envelope - he hides it away somewhere and from what I have seen never checks the contents in my view.

 

Another of my regulars - states in email before hand that the donation is to be folded notes in the right back pocket of my pants or jeans, normally what happens is he blindfolds me, restrains me, then invites his very hot slave boy into the scene- who undresses me, sometime later I can sense the slave taking my notes out of my folded pants.

 

I normally ask when we are having a drink after our session - you got the donation.

 

If I am having a gentlemen visit me in a hotel ( I never host at home) I will have the donation in an envelope with their name on it, on the desk where they can see it, most guys don't take it - they wait for me to give it to them at the end.

 

I think payment up front is fine if its spoken about first - and the gentleman is a gentleman and has a good reputation. On the odd ocassion when I have paid upfront = without doing my due diligence the experience has been less than stella.

[DMICS]

I don't pay in advance. Read and heard too many bad stories. All my past bookings none asked for payment upfront.

 

I usually bring it up prior to booking that they will be paid, in cash, after our session is completed. With that being said, over the last few months guys I'm interested in mention they only take payment upfront when I bring it up.

 

At that point I just move on. But it is annoying since like I said, it's been happening a lot lately.

 

I'm curious: for those who decline to pay in advance, how many of the escorts change their minds and agree to accept payment AFTER the time?

 

Still hasn't happened yet. I actually thought this would happen often, but nope!

[spider]

I have one case where it wasn't upfront, but I put it in a convenient spot when I walked in the door, as is my custom.

 

Halfway through the session we took a break and I went to take a wizz. I emerged from the bathroom to find him counting it. Sort of killed the rest of the session. We sort of cuddled a little and then I ended the session early.

[maninsoma]

I have one case where it wasn't upfront, but I put it in a convenient spot when I walked in the door, as is my custom.

 

Halfway through the session we took a break and I went to take a wizz. I emerged from the bathroom to find him counting it. Sort of killed the rest of the session. We sort of cuddled a little and then I ended the session early.

 

Part of the awkwardness of a client-escort interaction for clients who don't want to be reminded in the moment that the guy wouldn't be there with you were it not for the money is that any sort of focusing on money before or during the appointment is going to remind you of what you'd rather not acknowledge so you can just enjoy a hot hookup (or fantasy boyfriend playtime if that's your scene). I'm sure there are some clients who may even enjoy the mercenary aspect of the escort-client interaction -- particularly guys who equate their purchasing power with their self esteem -- but I'm sure I cannot be the only one who can really only enjoy himself with someone when the other guy is willing to participate in the illusion during the session that we are just two people enjoying each other's company (or, better yet, actually has the kind of personality that he actually enjoys being with me).