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On 6/24/2009 at 5:37 AM, glutes said:

The Boeing 787 has become a PR nightmare for Boeing, I also think a financial catastrophe at the end of the day. Having just announced another delay yesterday after saying it was going to make a maiden flight by the end of this month. The Paris Air Show crowd must have known that Boeing Execs were bullshitting them...

12 years on, the BS continues:

Deliveries of Boeing Co.'s 787 Dreamliner will likely remain halted until at least late October as the plane maker has been unable to persuade air-safety regulators to approve its proposal to inspect the aircraft, people familiar with the matter said.

With almost all deliveries paused for nearly a year, airlines and other Boeing customers increasingly are able to use the delay to walk away from deliveries or negotiate for concessions from the aerospace giant. Deliveries were first halted because the company and the Federal Aviation Administration began taking a deeper look at the plane's manufacturing defects. The holdup has choked off an important source of cash for Boeing and complicated plans for airlines.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/boeings-delivery-of-new-787-dreamliners-likely-delayed-until-at-least-late-october

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This afternoon a Qantas B787 repatriation flight landed in Darwin in Australia's Northern Territory after flying non-stop from Buenos Aires. It was the longest commercial flight the airline had operated. The flight overflew the Antarctic continent en route.

The route is not as long as Singapore Airlines' Singapore-Newark service, and it's not the longest flight that Qantas has ever operated with their B787s. Before Covid they had done trial non stop flights from New York and London to Sydney, and a few months ago they operated a charter flight taking the Australian cricket team from Brisbane to Saint Lucia in the West Indies. Today's flight was commercial, with tickets sold to Australians in South America who wanted to return to Australia.

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25 minutes ago, MscleLovr said:

Interesting posts @mike carey I once flew Qantas from Sydney to Johannesburg and we passed over Antarctica in bright, clear daylight. It was a magnificent sight and there were too many icebergs to count. 

Haven't done that flight although I think it's still on the (dormant) timetable as a daylight flight. I've flown AKL-SCL on LAN (as it was) but it was overnight for the relevant part of the flights both ways. My only SYD-JNB flight was with SAA/SAL with stops in Perth and Mauritius so no icebergs!

Ed: Qantas CEO Alan Joyce is talking about adding SYD-CPT as one of its ultra-long haul flights. That would go further south mid-flight (ETOPS diversions permitting). (Counter-intuitively, CPT is actually a 21 miles shorter flight from Sydney than JNB.)

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8 hours ago, mike carey said:

... I've flown AKL-SCL on LAN (as it was) but it was overnight for the relevant part of the flights both ways....

If you fly from October to February, isn't it always light over Antarctica, even at night?

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A friend of mine only flies on the 787 now because he feels the air circulation is safest during the pandemic.  I cannot vouch for his knowledge, but he has his own business and has to travel a lot - mostly to Asia.  He's lucky cause a lot of Asian airlines flies that jet.  

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Boeing Co. BA -1.66% is dealing with a new defect on its 787 Dreamliner, the latest in a series of production slip-ups that have delayed aircraft deliveries and drawn increased U.S. government scrutiny.

The new problem involves certain titanium parts that are weaker than they should be on 787s built over the past three years, people familiar with the matter said. The discovery is among other Dreamliner snafus that have left Boeing stuck with more than $25 billion of the jets in its inventory.

The finding is fresh evidence that the plane maker is still trying to fix its manufacturing operations, despite a nearly two-year push by Chief Executive David Calhoun to restore Boeing’s reputation for building quality jets. In addition, the Federal Aviation Administration is investigating Boeing’s quality controls. The company acknowledged it hasn’t solved the problem of junk left over from the production process, such as two empty tequila mini-bottles found in September on a new Air Force One jet under construction.

WSJ 10/14/2021

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Let me summarize: The FAA says that the 787 is safe today, but at some indeterminate time in the future, the wings may come off.

 

SEATTLE — The litany of manufacturing defects on the 787 Dreamliner is expanding as Boeing engineers take apart planes and discover new or more widespread issues, an Federal Aviation Administration internal memo indicates.

The FAA memo, which was circulated internally Monday and reviewed by the Seattle Times, points to new concerns about a previously unreported defect caused by contamination of the carbon fiber composite material during fabrication of the large structures that make up the 787’s wing, fuselage and tail.

https://nordot.app/834624478735794176?c=592622757532812385

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OMAAT is reporting that Qantas will confirm its order for the long awaited Project Sunrise aircraft today (Monday). When they posted the article on-line an Airbus A350-1000 was en route from Toulouse to Perth, apparently for the announcement. They report that Qantas will order 12 A350-1000s, with 270 seats in four classes of service, to be in service in 2025. At present Qantas only has first class in their A-380s, having retired the B747 before the pandemic. A new first class product will no doubt thrill all the aviation and airline mile collecting anoraks out there. For those of us for whom long haul first is more a theoretical than a practical possibility, they will have a 34" seat pitch in economy, which is pretty good.

Project Sunrise is the Qantas plan to be able to fly non-stop from Sydney and Melbourne to London and New York. Other destinations have been foreshadowed.

OMAAT expect Qantas to also announce firm orders for A320 family aircraft and A220s that will replace their existing fleet of B737 and B717 aircraft for domestic and some short haul international routes. A preliminary announcement of that purchase was made last year.

https://onemileatatime.com/news/qantas-airbus-a350/

 

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Here's the Qantas media release issued this morning. The A350s will have 238 seats in four classes, rather than the 270 OMAAT had understood to be the case. The release confirms that narrow body jet deliveries will begin next year, with total orders and options for the Qantas group of 299 aircraft. This marks a decisive switch by the airline away from Boeing.

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media-releases/qantas-group-announces-major-aircraft-order-to-shape-its-future/

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More Boeing Max fun!


Alaska Airlines pilot frantically requests ATC help after plane window BLEW OUT over Portland

 

WWW.DAILYMAIL.CO.UK

An Alaska Airlines flight from Portland, Oregon to Ontario, California was forced to make an emergency...

 

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5 minutes ago, glutes said:

It is beyond obvious that BOEING cannot be TRUSTED to build safe airplanes!!! The CEO and board need to be fired and replaced with engineers who actually care about safety not JUST PROFIT……

 

The incompetence is simply mind boggling.

I'm wondering if Qantas is regretting ordering more B787s as well as the Project Sunrise A350s. They've gone all Airbus for their narrow-body replacements. 

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