State of the industry (2026): So many Ads, not enough hits

[JB_Studio38]

It makes me wonder like, who all is really booking? RentMen has been quieter than ever. I keep the ad up for my reviews and advertising travels: but a recent browse thru my nearest major city area, there’s 50 guys advertising (17x 3 rows on Rent.Men) with the World Cup matches in town. And this is a place that has historically never really been that consistent in terms of bookings. A few years ago, that number was probably only around 10 or less on most days. So how is 500% more escorts doing any favors? It’s a fucking joke 🃏 
 

Across the board: I feel most men browsing for sex aren’t actively seeking the paid sites as much. And in case someone thinks “the more escorts the better for the clients”, well there’s a caveat to that. If there’s dozens of options, would it make it harder to find the right one? If a client can’t keep up with all the options and just wants to contact a bunch and play on the phone, that can easily earn a bad rep down the line. And on a site with multiple options but no rates, how many times are clients having to text around and ask for prices?

And without leaving the topic of prices: I understand some have their budget, but I’m having to turn down some bookings simply because they want something that is only going to break me even or less. Like I stated above, doubling up on clients when it’s already fewer to go around is more speculation than reality. So setting up an in-call session in a city an hour away from me or where hotels are running $100/$200 a night: $200-300 isn’t always going to cover the bases. 
 

And in case there’s any doubt: I’ve done the lower rates, made exceptions, etc: it doesn’t always mean more visits or more regulars. 

Also I want the idea that every advertiser is seeing multiple clients in a day to be understood. That is mostly the reality for masseur guys who tend to welcome higher volume but also have prices that may reel more people in. I personally don’t have the desire to see 4-5-6 dudes in one day, or cum so much that it hurts. Nor do I want to “withhold” cumming every time, because I have more clients to see that day.

I’m been working towards a lower volume, more streamlined experience.

Edited July 2 by JB_Studio38

[jonasfoleson]

Rentmen care as long as there are enough people viewing their site and escorts having ads. I don't think the amount of ads rentmen has is a guide. Provided they have people viewing their site and satisfying their afilliate or Adsense quotas, that's it. It's like a newspaper with used cars ads. All they care about is making mony from peoep placing ads there. it's not their business if they actually get sold or not.

 

[Mark_fl]

I understand your dilemma, but the market can only bear so much.  Inflation may have made a hotel room expensive,  but that doesn't magically make $300 for an hour affordable for many of us. Especially as many of us hiring are older without an unlimited budget or who can just get another job to fund the hobby. 

Maybe a solution would be 2 hour sessions to cover the room and make it more of a value. I know I'd rather splurge for 1200 for an overnight than spend 300 for one hour. Or stick to outcalls where the guest provides the room. All solutions suck, I'm sure,  but you can't get blood from a stone. And after all, this is a luxury.

I also think, as said on another thread, that RM should have the functionality to list fees that might apply to "close to" locations, since when I see a provider goes somewhere he's listed as a nearby city, I expect that to be someplace convenient (and profitable) for him without upcharging me.

Edited July 6 by Mark_fl

[JB_Studio38]

21 hours ago, Mark_fl said:

I understand your dilemma, but the market can only bear so much.  Inflation may have made a hotel room expensive,  but that doesn't magically make $300 for an hour affordable for many of us.

I also think, as said on another thread, that RM should have the functionality to list fees that might apply to "close to" locations, since when I see a provider goes somewhere he's listed as a nearby city, I expect that to be someplace convenient (and profitable) for him without upchanging me.

So in this regard, I wanted to also mention another reason why having too many ads can be an issue.

If I’m getting fewer clients than 10 years ago, I then have to charge more to be able to cover the bases. If a client wants me to travel, and host when I get there: Taking on sessions under $300 is risking breaking even or not at all, if more than 1 client isn’t showing up. 
 

$150-$200 sounds like a good number and people will sometimes ask for that amount, but it literally does nothing unless I’m willing to fit in 3-4 guys at that price and in my honest experience: many guys can’t make time in their day to all show up during the 1 or 2 nights I may set aside to host. 
 

Like said, longer sessions are preferred but many only want to do an hour, maybe 2.

[jeezifonly]

 

[aiseeya]

Free market and all that. As a client, thr more the merrier. Surely a challenging situation for market players. No argument in support of monopoli will ever win me over.

[Vulgarii]

It must be bad across the board for several reasons. I've had female providers reach out to me asking for advice.

[JB_Studio38]

On 7/8/2026 at 10:01 AM, aiseeya said:

Free market and all that. As a client, thr more the merrier. Surely a challenging situation for market players. No argument in support of monopoli will ever win me over.

If the support is there across the board, surely. But I feel there’s more advertising than there’s guys supporting.

And of course, the variable rates and who’s willing to do more than $150/$200 is also a factor. Like I said in previous post: if there’s so much to pick from that individual escorts aren’t seeing more than 1 client a day: $200 ain’t going to cut it to cover hotel and/or travel to a city. So the price may be $400-$500-$600 per booking just to see a return.

More the merrier is a myth. Less is more in some aspects. And in a country (USA) that has gone backwards, doesn’t allow escort ads freely on all “sex positive” platforms (which is a damn disguise), and continues to suppress freedom of sex worker speech; having more providers is the worse case scenario. Because who’s buying and buying at a reasonable price at this point?

[+ DrownedBoy]

Just what the others said - supply and demand at work. As the economy gets harder more people need extra money and get ads.

This market works like any others. I had a former regular complain how Venezuelan refugees were undercutting him. When he raised his rates, I switched to said Venezuelans and found a eager, humble, and lower priced group.

Markets don't care about what you think you're worth, or even what you need. My salary hasn't kept up with inflation, because the firm knows it's a low hire low fire market. That needs to get passed down to my discretionary spending.

Edited Friday at 10:34 AM by DrownedBoy

[Mark_fl]

Maybe you need to move to Orlando. Granted, I don't reach out locally very often, but it seems guys here dont read messages very often. You can see when they've been read on RM and rentmasseur, and when they read, they respond, and then don't read again for a while,  sometimes days.  Makes me understand the shotgun method!

Just not very serious here, apparently.

[Heart It Deep]

@JB_Studio38 Not sure what city, you're in but the more the merrier definitely isn't it.  Where I live, there is an abundance of providers, but as I weed through this forum, or make inquiries, it's clear some of them are either not good, swindlers, not reviewed etc.....  

 

My salary isn't keeping up with inflation either.  I would say, stick to your guns and raise your prices i needed.  You need to do more than break even. 

[JB_Studio38]

On 7/11/2026 at 10:39 AM, Mark_fl said:

Maybe you need to move to Orlando. Granted, I don't reach out locally very often, but it seems guys here dont read messages very often. You can see when they've been read on RM and rentmasseur, and when they read, they respond, and then don't read again for a while,  sometimes days.  Makes me understand the shotgun method!

Just not very serious here, apparently.

Orlando is one of the worst markets I’ve visited this year. I was just there couple months ago, and other than one consistent regular, it was hardly anything going on at all. With the exception of some of the smaller retirement/beach communities: Florida cities have been ran into the ground with sex workers and I found I don’t really stay busy enough in Orlando, Tampa, Miami etc. 
 

On 7/11/2026 at 11:09 AM, Heart It Deep said:

@JB_Studio38 Not sure what city, you're in but the more the merrier definitely isn't it.  Where I live, there is an abundance of providers, but as I weed through this forum, or make inquiries, it's clear some of them are either not good, swindlers, not reviewed etc.....  

 

My salary isn't keeping up with inflation either.  I would say, stick to your guns and raise your prices i needed.  You need to do more than break even. 

I’m currently on “tour” but I’ve already had to cancel 2 potential cities due to lack of firm/confirmed bookings. 
 

I go on RentMen and there’s a bunch of messages, but people asking for private pics or just making comments without necessarily implying that they have a plan to book. It’s tiring and discouraging. I have specific instructions in my auto reply, 95% of the time they don’t follow. All it asks is to text me and include some details about them.

They expect me with 30-40 pictures to interact with them with no pictures, on a 3rd party platform. Then they don’t want to comply with directions to help facilitate the visit or don’t follow up to my response in addition to the auto reply.

Edited yesterday at 06:46 AM by JB_Studio38

[JB_Studio38]

On 7/10/2026 at 5:32 AM, DrownedBoy said:

Just what the others said - supply and demand at work. As the economy gets harder more people need extra money and get ads.

This market works like any others. I had a former regular complain how Venezuelan refugees were undercutting him. When he raised his rates, I switched to said Venezuelans and found a eager, humble, and lower priced group.

Markets don't care about what you think you're worth, or even what you need. My salary hasn't kept up with inflation, because the firm knows it's a low hire low fire market. That needs to get passed down to my discretionary spending.

That may have worked for you, but my interactions with clients have varied. Situations of language barriers or stuff on here they talk about being caught up in scams or what not. 

At the same time, switching from your regular to a “cheaper/eager” option isn’t necessarily the best move either. If people are only willing to support “Venezuelan refugees”, that is essentially going to make it harder for local escorts to stay in the biz.
 

I’ve already seen how in some cities especially on RentMen, it’s mostly all Latin guys advertising. Even in cities with relatively small Latin demographics.

And you may think that’s not a problem but, what comes along with that is probably not nearly as promising. 
 

[JB_Studio38]

Also to add to this: What is with the  “prospective” clients who MEDDLE in on my travel schedule and current location???

People need to understand how RentMen/Advertising works. Just because my ad shows in a city doesn’t always mean I’m presently there. But it also doesn’t MATTER as long as I can get there, and I know what all appointments to expect when I arrive. It’s just an ad. It’s not a live location on my iPhone. I can move my ad between California and Minnesota all day long. It’s for exposure. It’s to gather interest, in order to prepare and be able to plan ahead. 

However, the getting in my business, trying to find out if I’m actually in town (like some clients seem to think if I’m not there “now”, then I won’t be at all), is unnecessary. But somehow they also magically expect me to eagerly travel to a city, using my own money or other client’s money I earned: without any booking commitment. 
 

All I need to know: is for a client to tell me where THEY are at, and when THEY are open to consider meeting. But coming on my phone, texting me  trying to figure out where I’m staying, what city I’m at, how long I’m in town etc: when that person hasn’t even gotten past the 1st step of booking, is crazy. I’ve already had to block/blacklist 2-3 “clients” this weekend for trying to assume and pry into my current location before even booking anything 
 

I have the perfect song to dedicate to people who do that:

 

Edited yesterday at 09:53 AM by JB_Studio38

[Mark_fl]

4 hours ago, JB_Studio38 said:

Orlando is one of the worst markets I’ve visited this year. I was just there couple months ago, and other than one consistent regular, it was hardly anything going on at all. With the exception of some of the smaller retirement/beach communities: Florida cities have been ran into the ground with sex workers and I found I don’t really stay busy enough in Orlando, Tampa, Miami etc. 
 

I’m currently on “tour” but I’ve already had to cancel 2 potential cities due to lack of firm/confirmed bookings. 
 

I go on RentMen and there’s a bunch of messages, but people asking for private pics or just making comments without necessarily implying that they have a plan to book. It’s tiring and discouraging. I have specific instructions in my auto reply, 95% of the time they don’t follow. All it asks is to text me and include some details about them.

They expect me with 30-40 pictures to interact with them with no pictures, on a 3rd party platform. Then they don’t want to comply with directions to help facilitate the visit or don’t follow up to my response in addition to the auto reply.

I guess there is a shortage of good clients AND serious providers. Sounds like we're both frustrated with the state of things. If you are in business and have an ad out there,  a prompt reply, even if declining is the bare minimum you can do.

On your second complaint I will say this: I never ask for private pics. (And it pisses me off on providers' behalf that people collect these or jerk off to your text conversations) And the only pic ever I ask for is a face if one hasn't been provided. But I state what and when I'm looking for in my first message and ask that the provider look at my profile to see if they think we are a good fit. If I get an autoresponse asking me to do other things, I generally move on and give them a chance to respond personally. I'm fine moving to offline correspondence after a few messages, but I'm not jumping through hoops to contact someone when I've already done so through the platform they are advertising on.

[JB_Studio38]

21 hours ago, Mark_fl said:

If I get an autoresponse asking me to do other things, I generally move on and give them a chance to respond personally. I'm fine moving to offline correspondence after a few messages, but I'm not jumping through hoops to contact someone when I've already done so through the platform they are advertising on.

So in this regard, just understand that by dismissing the auto-reply: you’re taking away from the fact that the auto reply does clients a favor by allowing us to give a reply even when we may not be readily available to engage in chat, or even notice the chat at all. It’s giving you free information and if you ignore and move on, you’ve just missed 🛫 something that may be conducive to booking the session. Stuff like rates, phone number, amount of notice needed; should not be grounds for “moving on”. If anything, that just says the provider wants informed clients, not window shoppers. 
 

The other issue is, keep in mind that you’re not the only one messaging on the RentMen chat. It’s already a lot to have to respond to texts everyday from people who aren’t intentional. But to ask us to also keep track of a 3rd party messenger app that frequently crashes and isn’t always notified on our phone: is asking for additional work on top or work already being done. 
 

Not to mention, 90% of the replies contain no real info to go off of. Here’s some examples:

and another:

And another:

Thats just 3 examples. But the amount of instant messages I receive who not talking anything relevant: is all day everyday. 
 

If someone wants to have a conversation on RentMen messenger, they can always Cash App/venmo me $25 and have a consultation. But of course there’s people who have a problem with that too. They just expect free attention, not realizing we are not a hookup app platform. Too many guys reach out like they’re talking on hookup apps, and it’s highly irritating. 
 

If people can wave $5-10 bills 💵 for drag shows, we need to also normalize the fact that WE SHOULD NOT BE EXPECTED TO DO ANYTHING FREE when it comes to booking a visit. Yes the club pays the performers, but the customers have been trained to tip. I want RentMen to train customers that they need to be willing to spend money to engage in instant messenger chat/unlock private pics etc. 

But I’ve come out with my own website that does that: And I’m tempted to start limiting my photo profile on the sites due to the fact it’s too many people looking, but not enough booking. 

Edited 11 hours ago by JB_Studio38

[jonasfoleson]

One thing I don’t get as a non American. Escorting is illegal in the us. So clearly there cannot be many police stings. Do the authorities not really care that much? 

[JB_Studio38]

11 minutes ago, jonasfoleson said:

One thing I don’t get as a non American. Escorting is illegal in the us. So clearly there cannot be many police stings. Do the authorities not really care that much? 

That’s a separate topic, not related to the discussion at hand. But the short answer is: stings are often ploys for human trafficking (of women/minors). Gays were once targets of stings at public parks and beaches, but now with online replacing public cruising, it’s not a “thing” anymore. So the focus isn’t a public concern, therefore is not often pursued.

The only time I hear about stings with male providers is when there’s an existing crime being occurred in the process. Drugs, robbery, domestic disputes etc. 

[Mark_fl]

1 hour ago, JB_Studio38 said:

So in this regard, just understand that by dismissing the auto-reply: you’re taking away from the fact that the auto reply does clients a favor by allowing us to give a reply even when we may not be readily available to engage in chat, or even notice the chat at all. It’s giving you free information and if you ignore and move on, you’ve just missed 🛫 something that may be conducive to booking the session. Stuff like rates, phone number, amount of notice needed; should not be grounds for “moving on”. If anything, that just says the provider wants informed clients, not window shoppers. 
 

The other issue is, keep in mind that you’re not the only one messaging on the RentMen chat. It’s already a lot to have to respond to texts everyday from people who aren’t intentional. But to ask us to also keep track of a 3rd party messenger app that frequently crashes and isn’t always notified on our phone: is asking for additional work on top or work already being done. 
 

Not to mention, 90% of the replies contain no real info to go off of. Here’s some examples:

and another:

And another:

Thats just 3 examples. But the amount of instant messages I receive who not talking anything relevant: is all day everyday. 
 

If someone wants to have a conversation on RentMen messenger, they can always Cash App/venmo me $25 and have a consultation. But of course there’s people who have a problem with that too. They just expect free attention, not realizing we are not a hookup app platform. Too many guys reach out like they’re talking on hookup apps, and it’s highly irritating. 
 

If people can wave $5-10 bills 💵 for drag shows, we need to also normalize the fact that WE SHOULD NOT BE EXPECTED TO DO ANYTHING FREE when it comes to booking a visit. Yes the club pays the performers, but the customers have been trained to tip. I want RentMen to train customers that they need to be willing to spend money to engage in instant messenger chat/unlock private pics etc. 

But I’ve come out with my own website that does that: And I’m tempted to start limiting my photo profile on the sites due to the fact it’s too many people looking, but not enough booking. 

While I don't think the posts you copied deserve a response, I think you sound jaded. If someone asks you a specific question in RM, they have a reasonable expectation that you will read it and respond appropriately. You seem to think l should have to pay for the privilege of booking an appointment with you. 

That might have something to do with why you aren't getting bookings. 

You don't need to "keep track of a third party messenger app" because you can set RM to email you when you get a message. It would be nice if they would text you instead, but checking your email periodically is not too much to ask for a business.

Before I pay any sort of provider, whether it be an accountant, a lawyer, or an electrician,  it seems normal that we would have a discussion about if they handle the kind of service I need. 

If I called the number on the ad, and rather than answer the phone or ask me to leave a number, they sent me to yet another website or asked me to call another number, I would move on to the next provider. I would think it was unprofessional or a scam.