+ azdr0710 Posted August 12 Posted August 12 + Just Chuck, Danny-Darko, pubic_assistance and 1 other 2 1 1
+ azdr0710 Posted August 12 Author Posted August 12 (edited) Mass continues its rep as most liberal state in the country. Colorado is considered by many as containing the most-educated population in the country. Edited August 12 by azdr0710 caliguy 1
pubic_assistance Posted August 12 Posted August 12 Based on my travels - this map makes sense. Although I am confident in my guess that much of the negative feelings toward homosexuality in States like Pennsylvania and Florida is coming from regions that you wouldn't be caught dead in, anyway....😆 + Pensant, + Charlie, Danny-Darko and 1 other 1 2 1
BSR Posted August 12 Posted August 12 17 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said: Based on my travels - this map makes sense. Although I am confident in my guess that much of the negative feelings toward homosexuality in States like Pennsylvania and Florida is coming from regions that you wouldn't be caught dead in, anyway....😆 I love this description of Pennsylvania: “Philadelphia on one side, Pittsburgh on the other, with Alabama in the middle.” mike carey, pubic_assistance, + DrownedBoy and 9 others 2 1 9
columbuslaw123 Posted August 12 Posted August 12 I'm very surprised Arkansas is lower than say Oklahoma or Idaho or Wyoming. Little Rock, Eureka Springs, Bentonville are all pretty liberal areas and when I was there I had no problem being with my husband. Idaho on the other hand felt extremely unsafe. I haven't been to Oklahoma but I imagine it's pretty terrible as well. samhexum, + Pensant and + Just Chuck 1 2
mike carey Posted August 12 Posted August 12 3 hours ago, BSR said: I love this description of Pennsylvania: “Philadelphia on one side, Pittsburgh on the other, with Alabama in the middle.” Haha, you beat me to it! pubic_assistance and Danny-Darko 1 1
+ Just Chuck Posted August 12 Posted August 12 All of the geographically big states are hard to characterize at a state level. Texas in particular would look very different (and probably get a score like Arkansas) if you separated DFW, Austin, San Antonio, and Houston from the rest of the state. + DrownedBoy, + Italiano, + Charlie and 4 others 1 6
+ Pensant Posted August 12 Posted August 12 5 hours ago, mike carey said: Haha, you beat me to it! That part of the state is also known as Pennsyltucky. I’d imagine the Philadelphia metro area, where I’m originally from, is in the low 80s. mike carey, pubic_assistance and + Charlie 1 2
mike carey Posted August 12 Posted August 12 1 minute ago, Pensant said: That part of the state is also known as Pennsyltucky. I’d imagine the Philadelphia metro area, where I’m originally from, is in the low 80s. Idyllic farmland and villages with an unseen darkness beneath. + Charlie 1
+ Pensant Posted August 12 Posted August 12 1 minute ago, mike carey said: Idyllic farmland and villages with an unseen darkness beneath. Sounds like HP Lovecraft’s description of the Dunwich country. + Charlie and + DrownedBoy 2
+ DrownedBoy Posted August 12 Posted August 12 12 minutes ago, mike carey said: Idyllic farmland and villages with an unseen darkness beneath. That's the problem with these maps. Illinois is an entirely red state except for the Chicago area. I've worked in Southern Illinois and it was totally conservative, with a majority of fundamentalist churches. It's amazing. In rural Wisconsin, it's the same, but the moment you get to even a small town, red turns to blue. Guess living with different people forces empathy. Danny-Darko and + Charlie 1 1
pubic_assistance Posted August 12 Posted August 12 2 hours ago, mike carey said: Idyllic farmland and villages with an unseen darkness beneath. I grew up there. It's not even "unseen"....we all see it. There is an expectation of "group-think" where you MUST do as others do. If you don't, you are to be hated for not participating. THIS is why I am so sensitive to "group-think" when I see gay men playing that same evil game. Group-think whether left of right thinking is suffocating. MaybeMaybeNot, NipLuvr212, Km411 and 6 others 3 1 1 2 2
NipLuvr212 Posted August 12 Posted August 12 16 hours ago, azdr0710 said: i love new england! Yea... thanks for this! + azdr0710 1
+ Charlie Posted August 12 Posted August 12 I think the only reason for doing this calculation by states is because the laws which affect sexual behavior are decided at the state level, not at the local level. If I were trying to decide where to live or visit, I would be more interested in polls at the city level. + DrownedBoy, + azdr0710, Danny-Darko and 1 other 1 3
NJF Posted August 12 Posted August 12 (edited) 16 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Based on my travels - this map makes sense. Although I am confident in my guess that much of the negative feelings toward homosexuality in States like Pennsylvania and Florida is coming from regions that you wouldn't be caught dead in, anyway....😆 Alabama is still 50/50. The only two states that are homophobic (<50% acceptance) are Arkansas and Mississippi Edited August 12 by NJF
NJF Posted August 12 Posted August 12 15 hours ago, columbuslaw123 said: I'm very surprised Arkansas is lower than say Oklahoma or Idaho or Wyoming. Little Rock, Eureka Springs, Bentonville are all pretty liberal areas and when I was there I had no problem being with my husband. Idaho on the other hand felt extremely unsafe. I haven't been to Oklahoma but I imagine it's pretty terrible as well. You need to get out of the cities and see the rural parts of Arkansas and Tennessee. Bible thumping preachers have a lot to do with the low public acceptance of homosexuality. pubic_assistance, Danny-Darko, + Just Chuck and 1 other 4
+ azdr0710 Posted August 12 Author Posted August 12 Yes, important to remember that state legislatures rarely reflect the general population very closely. Of course, rural vs urban is a wide swing in many states and even adjacent suburban cities can swing widely (in my area, Tempe is next to Mesa and are nearly day and night in tolerance) + Charlie, + Pensant, pubic_assistance and 3 others 4 2
+ Pensant Posted August 12 Posted August 12 32 minutes ago, NJF said: Bible thumping preachers have a lot to do with the low public acceptance of homosexuality. Although one wouldn’t be surprised by the antics of their “youth” pastors! pubic_assistance, + Charlie and + Just Chuck 1 2
Danny-Darko Posted August 12 Posted August 12 (edited) 23 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Based on my travels - this map makes sense. Although I am confident in my guess that much of the negative feelings toward homosexuality in States like Pennsylvania and Florida is coming from regions that you wouldn't be caught dead in, anyway....😆 True, and in Florida at least, even in urban sectors in seems to come from its vast immigrant population that come with and keeps their uneducated and narrow mentality from their native country. Edited August 13 by Danny-Darko + DrownedBoy, pubic_assistance and Luv2play 2 1
Lotus-eater Posted August 13 Posted August 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, Danny-Darko said: True, and in Florida at least, even in urban sectors in seems to come from it vast immigrant population that come with and keeps their uneducated and narrow mentality from their native country. Considering how poorly that sentence is written, what exactly qualifies as uneducated? 1. "in seems" → should be "it seems" Error type: Wrong pronoun used. 2. "it vast immigrant population" → should be "its vast immigrant population" Error type: Incorrect pronoun form. 3. "population that come" → should be "population that comes" Error type: Subject–verb agreement. 4. "come with and keeps" → should be parallel in form Error type: Faulty parallelism. 5. "their uneducated and narrow mentality" Error type: Pronoun–antecedent agreement. 6. "mentality" (possible pluralization issue) Error type: Word choice/number consistency. 7. "from their native country" Error type: Number mismatch (country vs. countries). Edited August 13 by Lotus-eater + JamesB, Whippoorwill, Danny-Darko and 4 others 2 1 4
NJF Posted August 13 Posted August 13 14 minutes ago, Lotus-eater said: Considering how poorly that sentence is written, what exactly qualifies as uneducated? 1. "in seems" → should be "it seems" Error type: Wrong pronoun used. 2. "it vast immigrant population" → should be "its vast immigrant population" Error type: Incorrect pronoun form. 3. "population that come" → should be "population that comes" Error type: Subject–verb agreement. 4. "come with and keeps" → should be parallel in form Error type: Faulty parallelism. 5. "their uneducated and narrow mentality" Error type: Pronoun–antecedent agreement. 6. "mentality" (possible pluralization issue) Error type: Word choice/number consistency. 7. "from their native country" Error type: Number mismatch (country vs. countries). Are you making a living by teaching English? lol. pubic_assistance, Danny-Darko and + DrownedBoy 1 2
+ nycman Posted August 13 Posted August 13 1 hour ago, NJF said: Are you making a living by teaching English? lol. Or by just being a twat? grin mike carey, Danny-Darko, thomas and 1 other 1 1 2
Cooper Posted August 13 Posted August 13 Administrator’s Note Gentlemen, Let’s stay on topic. You have an interesting subject here. Let’s discuss it and not any member. 👍🏼 + Charlie and Whippoorwill 2
+ Just Chuck Posted August 13 Posted August 13 I stopped at a fast food restaurant in ULTRA CONSERVATIVE Memphis, Texas a few years ago. The high school-aged young man behind the counter was wearing every rainbow-patterned accessory I could imagine. I ate the whole meal thinking "to be that brave and out in this community means that young guy is TOUGH emotionally and maybe physically." thomas, Danny-Darko, + Charlie and 2 others 3 2
pubic_assistance Posted August 13 Posted August 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, Just Chuck said: to be that brave and out in this community means that young guy is TOUGH emotionally and maybe physically." Many young people often defy the standards of social expectations even when it puts them at risk of expulsion and torment. I grew up in a socially conservative religious community. I chose to keep my homosexual tendencies to myself and instead of challenging anyone's viewpoints, I simply left and never moved back. I applaud the brave young people who stayed there, and pushed back on public opinion enough to change perceptions to the point that its no longer unsafe for gay couples to run a bed&breakfast there, publicly declaring their relationship without taunting or attacks. Edited August 13 by pubic_assistance grammar + Vegas_Millennial, + Charlie, NJF and 5 others 6 2
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