White Daddy Top Posted April 22 Posted April 22 Does anyone have any experience engaging in raceplay with an escort? I've never indulged in raceplay but I have to admit my curiosity. Is it a taboo subject among escorts? Should I feel comfortable mentioning it as something I'm into, or would it scare too many escorts away? Note: I am talking about a raceplay fetish, not actual racism Danny-Darko 1
56harrisond Posted April 22 Posted April 22 Here's a discussion about Asian race play marylander1940 and + Vegas_Millennial 2
Danny-Darko Posted April 22 Posted April 22 (edited) 8 hours ago, White Daddy Top said: Does anyone have any experience engaging in raceplay with an escort? I've never indulged in raceplay but I have to admit my curiosity. Is it a taboo subject among escorts? Should I feel comfortable mentioning it as something I'm into, or would it scare too many escorts away? Note: I am talking about a raceplay fetish, not actual racism Yes. There are some who are into it and other's willing to do it as a roll play scene. While it's not everybody's cup of tea, many many people do get into many different variations of race play. I know of one who that is his niche. Some get crap for it too and some customers shy away from "regular" sex with them because they're aborded by this specialty! The problem is with all the self-righteous people that are such "politically correct social justice warriors" that they spew hate and try to ruin it and don't get the fetish and realize it's not "real", if that makes any sense? Edited April 22 by Danny-Darko pubic_assistance 1
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted April 22 Posted April 22 3 hours ago, White Daddy Top said: Does anyone have any experience engaging in raceplay with an escort? I've never indulged in raceplay but I have to admit my curiosity. Is it a taboo subject among escorts? Should I feel comfortable mentioning it as something I'm into, or would it scare too many escorts away? Note: I am talking about a raceplay fetish, not actual racism I scratch that fetish by hiring mostly Latin men when I visit Mexico, European men when I visit Europe, and African American men on June 19th. I haven't gone out of my way to hire any Asian men yet; but, I've had a few of them at various spas. Like others have said, that's not my cup of tea. But there are many threads in the Spa section discussing Oriental spas in New York City, so it must be a popular thing.
pubic_assistance Posted April 22 Posted April 22 I have quite a bit of experience with BDSM play and "race play" is a frequent sub interest for people of color. So although it can be very exciting for some...I would advise against broaching the subject without any prior indication of an interest on the part of the provider. It's a sensitive subject and a fetish that requires some bit of trust before sharing the adventure....so tread lightly on that conversation. + Pensant, + Just Chuck, thomas and 1 other 2 2
Gerhardjack Posted April 23 Posted April 23 19 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: I have quite a bit of experience with BDSM play and "race play" is a frequent sub interest for people of color. So although it can be very exciting for some...I would advise against broaching the subject without any prior indication of an interest on the part of the provider. It's a sensitive subject and a fetish that requires some bit of trust before sharing the adventure....so tread lightly on that conversation. I also like BDSM and fetish service,s, but i didn't know any good service providers at my location germany, So can you please suggest a good one? + Vegas_Millennial and Danny-Darko 1 1
White Daddy Top Posted April 23 Author Posted April 23 20 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: I have quite a bit of experience with BDSM play and "race play" is a frequent sub interest for people of color. So although it can be very exciting for some...I would advise against broaching the subject without any prior indication of an interest on the part of the provider. It's a sensitive subject and a fetish that requires some bit of trust before sharing the adventure....so tread lightly on that conversation. Thanks! pubic_assistance 1
White Daddy Top Posted April 23 Author Posted April 23 22 hours ago, 56harrisond said: Here's a discussion about Asian race play Thanks!
+ DrownedBoy Posted April 24 Posted April 24 You should definitely talk to the provider. Met a black gentleman, and he told me he turned down any guy interested in that. He even disapproved of the idea that I like to "be the slave" during roleplaying. To him it was a demeaning way of looking at black people. + Lucky 1
pubic_assistance Posted April 24 Posted April 24 (edited) 43 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said: ....it was a demeaning way of looking at black people. Well....I guess he didn't understand role play / race play. I had a fuckbuddy years ago...who had suffered some degree of racism growing up. He said he learned from an early age to view white people as superior and black people as inferior. As an adult he knew better but subconsciously he still heard those ideas in his head. So during sexual kink play, he enjoyed being held prisoner and humiliated and beaten by a white man while being used sexually. He says the fact that a white man enjoyed using his throat to cum-in was his safety. The fact that he was physically attractive to a white man reminded him that it was all a lie. That his "inferiority" was an illusion. He enjoyed how I would abuse him during sex ..and then tell him how beautiful he was after I shot my load in him a few times. Then I would kiss him...and jerk him off. He would always cry while he ejaculated. Powerful stuff. But as I stated up thread ...tread lightly. Its definitley not everyone's cup of tea. Edited April 24 by pubic_assistance spelling thomas, Danny-Darko, spidir and 3 others 2 1 2 1
Danny-Darko Posted April 24 Posted April 24 2 hours ago, DrownedBoy said: You should definitely talk to the provider. Met a black gentleman, and he told me he turned down any guy interested in that. He even disapproved of the idea that I like to "be the slave" during roleplaying. To him it was a demeaning way of looking at black people. As I mentioned, not everybody's cup of tea and not everybody gets this type of fetish play! All fetish play is best done with people who share the same fetish. Fetish play deals with psychology and chemistry between the players. But there are surprising numbers of people looking for all types of "race play" all over the net. I get hit up for or asked about all the time on several different pages I'm active on though I personally don't give that sort of play. I'm more of a curious spectator. These are very niche things and some very different than each other and not always overlap. pubic_assistance 1
Danny-Darko Posted April 24 Posted April 24 2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Well....I guess he didn't understand role play / race play. I had a fuckbuddy years ago...who had suffered some degree of racism growing up. He said he learned from an early age to view white people as superior and black people as inferior. As an adult he knew better but subconsciously he still heard those ideas in his head. So during sexual kink play, he enjoyed being held prisoner and humiliated and beaten by a white man while being used sexually. He says the fact that a white man enjoyed using his throat to cum-in was his safety. The fact that he was physically attractive to a white man reminded him that it was all a lie. That his "inferiority" was an illusion. He enjoyed how I would abuse him during sex ..and then tell him how beautiful he was after I shot my load in him a few times. Then I would kiss him...and jerk him off. He would always cry while he ejaculated. Powerful stuff. But as I stated up thread ...tread lightly. Its definitley not everyone's cup of tea. Exactly! Gay and straight people who get into this are usually quiet about it because it's considered taboo among mainstream communities. I don't prended to understand it all, but my philosophy is if it gets you both off and it's consensual, then it's none of anybody's business. FetLife is full of groups of all kinds for these sorts of things! pubic_assistance and spidir 1 1
Ethago Posted April 25 Posted April 25 I find that most of my white clients eventually want to explore some version of race play, especially if they’re into BDSM. Whether that’s calling me the hard r, or going into further verbal degradation/humiliation. I like being dominated by white guys, and I already assume that most have some sort of racial bias if they’re booking a black bottom like me. The part that isn’t great is the constant virtue signaling. Telling me that you’re not racist, and begging me to believe you, after paying to fuck me while calling me a cotton picking n****r is emotional labor I didn’t ask for. I run a RP twitter if anyone is interested: pubic_assistance and thomas 2
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted April 25 Posted April 25 Raceplay isn't something I'd say two total strangers should get into when there's money involved. Whether you're the dom or the sub in the scene, you have to know a little something about who and why they're asking for it, as well as where the line is. Is it a taboo? No more a taboo than pissing on someone, scat, fisting, sounding, BDSM, etc. It's just a verbal diversion from vanilla sex. Like rapeplay, it's just theater. Some actors are better at it than others. pubic_assistance, hungry4darkmeat, + Just Chuck and 3 others 5 1
+ Lucky Posted April 25 Posted April 25 It isn't exactly raceplay, but I love for a person of color to don a magnificent red baseball cap and beat and demean me for being a woke white guy. Thrills abound! hungry4darkmeat and pubic_assistance 1 1
+ DrownedBoy Posted April 26 Posted April 26 It may be something that providers are willing to do for pay; I was referring to a hookup, which took place on equal footing. Which is no doubt why the older "gentleman" was willing to criticize the idea of me being a white slave to a black guy. I'd still worry sbout calling someone a "cotton picking n****r" unless that was made extreeeemely clear and consensual beforehand. I recall reading an article by a black writer whose partner unexpectedly blurted out the n word like that, and it very quickly ended any nice feelings between them.
MidAndy Posted June 15 Posted June 15 If you want race play to be part of the session - does it warrant additional fee? What are the best practices to make it memorable and enjoyable experience? Any tips from providers how they handle it?
+ sync Posted June 16 Posted June 16 To each his/her own, but what could possibly go wrong? ☹️ soloyo215 and Danny-Darko 1 1
MidAndy Posted June 16 Posted June 16 8 minutes ago, sync said: To each his/her own, but what could possibly go wrong? ☹️ soloyo215 1
Obsidian Posted June 16 Posted June 16 (edited) I handle it by saying "I don't think im the one for this one", but thanks. As a non-white provider i deal with enough race issues in real life. I try to keep an open mind with client desires, but when ive tried to discuss a potential meeting it gets increasingly more uncomfortable. Also, both guys that initiated the conversation either were a no-show or stopped responding. My guess with that is theyd gotten what they needed free. For me, I want clients who are attracted to my attributes, not a pretend hatred or humilation. With that said, i think its important to discuss interest and boundaries in depth, at the opening of the conversation. If someones ok with it, i dont think an additional fee is warranted Edited June 16 by Obsidian acks0104, + ApexNomad, urbanfetish and 2 others 2 3
Pd1_jap Posted June 16 Posted June 16 In my experience there are enough guys on Grindr and sniffies into race play that I wouldn't need to hire for this. It's not my thing but there are a lot of guys into it. Also try feeld, they have filters to match you with guys into it: Feeld: The Dating App for Open-Minded Individuals FEELD.CO Welcome to Feeld, the modern dating app connecting like-minded individuals for fulfilling relationships. Embrace desires... pubic_assistance 1
SirBillybob Posted June 16 Posted June 16 (edited) New book from Oxford University Press. Expensive and not all chapters relevant but at least try to read the free sample which is fairly generous in length. Edited June 16 by SirBillybob + ApexNomad, acks0104 and pubic_assistance 1 2
marylander1940 Posted June 16 Posted June 16 19 hours ago, MidAndy said: If you want race play to be part of the session - does it warrant additional fee? What are the best practices to make it memorable and enjoyable experience? Any tips from providers how they handle it? Safe word or yellow flag (warning) and red flag (stop it) It is role play and therefore involves acting, and it's more demanding than an escort getting head while thinking what's for dinner. Yes! Pay extra! Do you want him to wear a KKK hood or a military uniform? What's your ethnicity so we can give you an idea of what to expect? Player1Ready 1
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