United Healthcare CEO killed

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

1 minute ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

Other than rumors or baseless speculation, Bozo has seen absolutely nothing that would indicate that Luigi is a homosexual. And apparently there's been nothing in any of his social media or cell phone to indicate that he is. It's pure gossip, and likely untrue.
Also, any gay male with a semblance of style and vanity would have had those thick, bushy eyebrows waxed, or at least trimmed. 
The Groucho Marx look is not one that I believe is trendy in the gay community. And thank God for that!

BTC

 

 

Edited December 10, 2024 by BOZO T CLOWN

[Monarchy79]

This dude is not gay. At all. 

[+ José Soplanucas]

 

[MikeThomas]

1 hour ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

All the way around, it's an ugly, sad story.

This sums it up.  

I won't be coming back to the thread.

[+ José Soplanucas]

Beyond what we think and what comes to be real or fabrications, this guy is becoming a hero. 

[+ José Soplanucas]

Unfortunately for @BOZO T CLOWN, I predict a big trend for bushy eyebrows. I guess not so bad news, as the trend would also be for Italian looking men.

[+ DrownedBoy]

2 hours ago, ApexNomad said:

People don’t have to sympathize with the deceased, but premeditated murder is a crime. Period. Normalizing such behavior opens the door to future violence as a solution to injustice.

This isn’t just about one person or incident—it’s about how we, as a society, respond to systemic harm. Unethical practices, like using AI to deny life-saving claims, require legal action, not vigilantism.

Change through reform takes time—it’s frustrating! Always has been. Always will be. But, it’s the only way to create meaningful progress. We must demand accountability through the rule of law and address systemic failures. 

Justice must always be pursued within a legal framework to prevent further harm. I say that knowing the law doesn’t always get it right—but it’s the best system we have to ensure accountability and prevent chaos.

If you lived in the 18th century, you'd probably be scolding Washington, Franklin, Jefferson, et. al., that war isn't the answer. 🙄

[+ ApexNomad]

13 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said:

If you lived in the 18th century, you'd probably be scolding Washington, Franklin, Jefferson, et. al., that war isn't the answer. 🙄

Some days, I feel old enough to think I’ve lived through those 18th-century revolutions myself, but fortunately, the founding fathers gave us the tools to avoid resorting to violence today.

History does teach us a lot. Revolutions were often born out of extreme oppression and injustice, leaving people with few options. However, in today’s world, we have more tools—like laws, systems of accountability, and reform—to address systemic issues without resorting to violence. 

[+ José Soplanucas]

1 hour ago, harlow said:

Sooo are we not talking about hot this suspected murderer is or what???  Am I in the wrong room..

 

 

Go to LPSG, This thread is 150 pages of fun.

[harlow]

9 minutes ago, MikeBiDude said:

Moderator note: Sure it’s ok to comment on his looks…but see my warning yesterday. Let’s not let it get inappropriately sexual. Thanks.

Got it post deleted 

[56harrisond]

9 minutes ago, MikeBiDude said:

 inappropriately sexual

The title of a book I would read 

[Luv2play]

I think the trial will be very interesting. His family will likely hire the best team of lawyers. And the public may kick in big time with fundraising. 
The health insurance industry may find itself on trial as well. At least in the court of public opinion. And New York will be an interesting venue for all of this to take place. 
A New York jury just acquited an ex-marine who choked a man to death on the subway. 

[BuffaloKyle]

18 minutes ago, Luv2play said:

I think the trial will be very interesting. His family will likely hire the best team of lawyers. And the public may kick in big time with fundraising. 
The health insurance industry may find itself on trial as well. At least in the court of public opinion. And New York will be an interesting venue for all of this to take place. 
A New York jury just acquited an ex-marine who choked a man to death on the subway. 

Considering how many people are on his side be an interesting jury selection process for sure.

[mike carey]

57 minutes ago, BuffaloKyle said:

Considering how many people are on his side be an interesting jury selection process for sure.

It may well be interesting. One of the features of jury trials is that they don't give any reasons how they came to a decision or why, and the result isn't appealable unless there have been procedural errors in the trial or the judge gave inappropriate advice or directions to the jury. By contrast, in judge only trials (that are available in some jurisdictions) the judge has to set out the reasons in their judgment. A recent high profile murder trial in NSW, a notorious case that involved the disappearance of a woman in 1982, in which her husband was brought to trial this year and convicted, was judge only. Some may remember the murder trial of Oscar Pistorius in South Africa was also judge only.

[Lotus-eater]

He just needs one hateful Jacobin type or someone captivated by his looks to deadlock the jury.

[dutchal]

10 hours ago, Luv2play said:

I think the trial will be very interesting. His family will likely hire the best team of lawyers. And the public may kick in big time with fundraising. 
The health insurance industry may find itself on trial as well. At least in the court of public opinion. And New York will be an interesting venue for all of this to take place. 
A New York jury just acquited an ex-marine who choked a man to death on the subway. 

The judge will not let the trial divert to an examination of the health industry--it won't be relevant to the murder charge.  Mangione's manifesto will probably come in, though, as what is effectively a confession.  The voir dire process, that it, the questioning of prospective jurors before the jury is seated, will have a thorough focus on their attitudes about the health care industry and insurance companies. 

[+ DrownedBoy]

9 hours ago, Lotus-eater said:

He just needs one hateful Jacobin type or someone captivated by his looks to deadlock the jury.

No, he just needs one brave citizen with common sense who understands the difference between the letter and spirit of the law.

[dutchal]

9 hours ago, mike carey said:

It may well be interesting. One of the features of jury trials is that they don't give any reasons how they came to a decision or why, and the result isn't appealable unless there have been procedural errors in the trial or the judge gave inappropriate advice or directions to the jury. By contrast, in judge only trials (that are available in some jurisdictions) the judge has to set out the reasons in their judgment. A recent high profile murder trial in NSW, a notorious case that involved the disappearance of a woman in 1982, in which her husband was brought to trial this year and convicted, was judge only. Some may remember the murder trial of Oscar Pistorius in South Africa was also judge only.

In the U.S., "judge only trials", usually called bench or non-jury trials, are available in all jurisdictions.  In criminal cases, in some states, including New York, it is entirely up to the defendant (except for first degree murder), in others, both the defendant and the prosecution have to agree.  This guy will be charged at most with second degree murder.  First degree murder in New York State is limited to certain circumstances that aren't present in this case.

https://www.arthurpressmanlaw.com/exploring-the-different-degrees-of-murder-charges-in-new-york/

 

[dutchal]

15 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said:

No, he just needs one brave citizen with common sense who understands the difference between the letter and spirit of the law.

There is nothing about the spirit of the law that suggests cold-blooded assassination of a health care insurance executive should not be criminal.

[+ José Soplanucas]

Did I say he will become a hero? I think I lacked of imagination.

 

[caliguy]

1 hour ago, dutchal said:

There is nothing about the spirit of the law that suggests cold-blooded assassination of a health care insurance executive should not be criminal.

Insurance CEO's and Board members have not and will not be held responsible for any of it. I the law helps to oppress, cause mass undue suffering, kill, and there is no remediation or political will to change those laws, then it is moral to go outside of those laws. If there was a way to bring these guys and their to justice or prevent them form causing future suffering or death, then it would be different. 

 

[marylander1940]

11 hours ago, BuffaloKyle said:

Considering how many people are on his side be an interesting jury selection process for sure.

Not only that but it's difficult to send to jail someone as good-looking as he is. That's at least what data says

[marylander1940]

19 hours ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

Bozo has seen absolutely nothing that would indicate that Luigi is a homosexual. And apparently there's been nothing in any of his social media or cell phone to indicate that he is. It's pure speculation, and likely untrue.
Also, any gay male with a semblance of style and vanity would have had those thick, bushy eyebrows waxed, or at least trimmed. 
The Groucho Marx look is not one that I believe is trendy in the gay community. And thank God for that!

BTC

 

I wish triming our eyebrows was the only thing separating us from being as handsome as he is...

So far I haven't seen any tattoo on him. 

[caliguy]

35 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

Not only that but it's difficult to send to jail someone as good-looking as he is. That's at least what data says

I agree his looks will play a part but he done fucked over a very powerful person and the Powers that be need to set an example. Even if the Jury Deadlocks the Government will just keep trying till they get their conviction. 

Edited December 11, 2024 by caliguy

[+ sync]

19 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

Not only that but it's difficult to send to jail someone as good-looking as he is. That's at least what data says

Add to that he is a product of wealth and political affiliations.