United Healthcare CEO killed

[+ DrownedBoy]

1 hour ago, sniper said:

Maybe it was a shoot the first C-suite person you see and not him specifically.

It was aimed specifically at a health care exec. See what he wrote on the bullets.

[samhexum]

5 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said:

It was aimed specifically at a health care exec. See what he wrote on the bullets.

 

19 hours ago, samhexum said:

Or perhaps he's a diabolical mastermind (as Steed & Mrs. Peel would've said) who didn't do those things so he'd look like an amateur and throw the cops off the scent.

Let's just say there are alternate theories.

[Luv2play]

It was reported today that 27 percent of Fortune 500 companies spend on security to protect their CEOs. Meta spends $23 million on security for Mark Zuckerberg. More are expected to up their security measures now in the light of this murder. 

[+ glutes]

Different outfit, backpack, and the nose doesn’t match.

[samhexum]

On 12/4/2024 at 11:00 AM, samhexum said:

So of course I have a normal person's reaction...

How does this affect my insurance?

So of course, all this shit happens right before the deadline for switching Medicare plans on Saturday, although another three month period Opens up January 1.

I have actually never had any major problems with them and my plan had just been to stay with them, but I'm thinking I should at least look at other companies once the deadline has passed and if I decide it's worth changing to another one, I can always do that in January and the coverage with the new company would start in February.

[+ sniper]

2 hours ago, DrownedBoy said:

It was aimed specifically at a health care exec. See what he wrote on the bullets.

Yes, I'm saying he was not the only healthcare exec there. I'd say whoever had their picture on the same web page as him might have been the victim had they shown up first.

[BuffaloKyle]

59 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

Disturbing Trend as Internet Thirsts After CEO Assassin

WWW.THEDAILYBEAST.COM

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As the hunt for the wanted killer heats up, social media is burning up with desire over the suspect’s facial profile.

 

Hey whatever gets more people to look at his photo means someone will recognize him.

[Luv2play]

Someone wrote that this harkens back to Bonnie and Clyde who became folk hero’s shooting up banks and killing people during the Great Depression. A movie may come from this. 

[dutchal]

15 hours ago, Luv2play said:

Someone wrote that this harkens back to Bonnie and Clyde who became folk hero’s shooting up banks and killing people during the Great Depression. A movie may come from this. 

But not before a Law and Order episode.

[marylander1940]

15 hours ago, Luv2play said:

Someone wrote that this harkens back to Bonnie and Clyde who became folk hero’s shooting up banks and killing people during the Great Depression. A movie may come from this. 

[+ DrownedBoy]

17 hours ago, BuffaloKyle said:

Hey whatever gets more people to look at his photo means someone will recognize him.

Better yet - people recognize him and don't call the cops.

As far as I'm concerned, his only crime is littering for leaving trash on the street.

[+ augustus]

This is a complicated issue.   Medicare Advantage Programs are made to control payouts, and it has the wholehearted approval of the Federal Government.  They entice you with gift cards and free this and free that.  But an expensive stay at rehab will often be denied but usually approved on appeal.

On the other hand, many of the claims are wrought with fraud.  

Then Obamacare coded every possible ailment and assigned the number of days someone could stay in a hospital and what they will pay.  That is what Medicare will pay, according to the coded ailment. It's often not the doctors or insurance companies' decision.   This is why hospital bed capacity has shrunk so much in the past few years and hospitals have closed left and right.

If you have an employer provided policy, that policy may not pay what you think they should pay.

Then there are sky-high legal malpractice premiums which are passed on and are a severe burden on the system.

The rest of the world deals with this by rationing care and not allowing lawsuits.  Be careful what you wish for.

 

[+ glutes]

On 12/5/2024 at 1:54 PM, Luv2play said:

It was reported today that 27 percent of Fortune 500 companies spend on security to protect their CEOs. Meta spends $23 million on security for Mark Zuckerberg. More are expected to up their security measures now in the light of this murder. 

Perhaps the simplest way for the CEOs to feel more secure in daily life would be to develop a business plan that doesn't rely on profiting off the misery of others.

[wsc]

On 12/5/2024 at 10:44 AM, rvwnsd said:

Who contacts the widow shortly after her late husband's murder and requests her reaction? What do they expect her to say?

That said, yes, hanging up the phone would be my first reaction. Perhaps the shock impaired her thinking?

 

On November 22, 1963, a newsman in Dallas, Texas asked Mrs. J. D. Tippit, widowed earlier that day when her police officer husband was shot and killed by Lee Harvey Oswald, which death that day she was more upset about, her husband's or the President's.

Not all journalists are Walter Cronkite. Or even close.

[pubic_assistance]

On 12/5/2024 at 2:34 PM, azdr0710 said:

now where is that other thread about people we're embarrassed to admit are good-looking??!!......

Or should we start a thread about hot assassins? 🤔

[samhexum]

12 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Or should we start a thread about hot assassins? 🤔

What about hot crime victims?  Almost 20 years ago a very cute young cop was killed at the White Castle on Webster Ave in the Bronx.  I'm embarrassed to admit I became fixated on the story because of his looks.

An off-duty cop, chasing a half-dozen thugs who beat him up inside a Bronx White Castle, was gunned down by a fellow officer early yesterday morning in a catastrophic case of mistaken identity, police said.

Officer Eric Hernandez, 24...

38 minutes ago, glutes said:

Perhaps the simplest way for the CEOs to feel more secure in daily life would be to develop a business plan that doesn't rely on profiting off the misery of others.

Then they wouldn't advance to become healthcare CEOs.

[Luv2play]

2 hours ago, augustus said:

This is a complicated issue.   Medicare Advantage Programs are made to control payouts, and it has the wholehearted approval of the Federal Government.  They entice you with gift cards and free this and free that.  But an expensive stay at rehab will often be denied but usually approved on appeal.

On the other hand, many of the claims are wrought with fraud.  

Then Obamacare coded every possible ailment and assigned the number of days someone could stay in a hospital and what they will pay.  That is what Medicare will pay, according to the coded ailment. It's often not the doctors or insurance companies' decision.   This is why hospital bed capacity has shrunk so much in the past few years and hospitals have closed left and right.

If you have an employer provided policy, that policy may not pay what you think they should pay.

Then there are sky-high legal malpractice premiums which are passed on and are a severe burden on the system.

The rest of the world deals with this by rationing care and not allowing lawsuits.  Be careful what you wish for.

 

The US system is also a form of rationing, based on ability to pay. The under or uninsured are left to fend for themselves.

[+ augustus]

39 minutes ago, Luv2play said:

The US system is also a form of rationing, based on ability to pay. The under or uninsured are left to fend for themselves.

Not particularly.   Medicaid pays for the indigent.  And hospitals are required to treat all patients.  Of course it's better to have money.  But we don't have rationing here like in Canada.  Some of the best hospitals in NYC are filled with indigents.  

Edited December 7, 2024 by augustus

[Stormy]

There are so many decent people who are murdered in America and get no media coverage.  I have a hard time shedding a tear for someone who made gazillions of dollars by refusing to cover life saving care to patients.  The murder was not justified but I hope they never find the assassin 

Edited December 7, 2024 by Stormy

[Luv2play]

I don’t think it’s realistic to think they aren’t going to find him. His face is known. It’s only a matter of time. Reminds me of the Versace murder in 1997. 
I just looked it up and he was 50 as well. Sort of a weird coincidence. 

Edited December 7, 2024 by Luv2play

[BSR]

1 hour ago, Stormy said:

There are so many decent people who are murdered in America and get no media coverage.  I have a hard time shedding a tear for someone who made gazillions of dollars by refusing to cover life saving care to patients.  The murder was not justified but I hope they never find the assassin 

I very much doubt that insurance companies’ greed will disappear or even diminish because one CEO was murdered.

[Johnrom]

This crime will generate huge Demand for the corporate security business.  Lots of ex cops and military will get hired to defend and protect wealthy execs and CEOs. 

[+ augustus]

The comments somehow justifying the murder of Mr Thompson are beyond horrible.  Wishing harm on anyone is a descent into barbarism and inhumanity.  Albert Einstein was spot-on when he said, "Violence always attracts men of low morality."

People need look no further than the bankrupt socialist system in Canada, where it takes approximately 6 months (if you're lucky) for a knee or hip replacement and often longer.  

Edited December 7, 2024 by augustus

[BSR]

The assassin’s use of a suppressor baffles me.  It served no useful purpose (far cheaper and more easily acquired earplugs would have done just as well), but it did cause his gun to malfunction and might increase the chances he gets caught (because suppressors are more traceable).

The gun+suppressor combination malfunctioned because it needed a booster, the lack of which required the assassin to manually rack the slide in order to eject the spent cartridge and to load the next round.  In other words, the assassin didn’t test his equipment beforehand and more significant, didn’t even know that most suppressors need a booster.

By the way, what most people call a “silencer” is really a suppressor because it merely reduces the gunshot’s decibel level but falls far short of silencing it.  A suppressor reduces a gunshot from an ear-shattering 160-170 dB to a merely ear-damaging 130-140 dB.  For reference, an ambulance siren registers 120 dB and a jackhammer 110 dB.  That movie scene where the killer using a “silencer” fires shots that sound like a kitten landing on a silk pillow, yup, pure Hollywood fiction.

[marylander1940]

15 minutes ago, augustus said:

The comments somehow justifying the murder of Mr Thompson are beyond horrible.  Wishing harm on anyone is a descent into barbarism and inhumanity.  Albert Einstein was spot-on when he said, "Violence always attracts men of low morality."

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I couldn't agree with you more! 

We have rule of law for a reason, murder is never justified!

 

 

Edited December 7, 2024 by marylander1940