Ideal example of the perfect booking process: take note 📝

[Jarrod_Uncut]

I know some have said they want to hear some good word for a change from me, well here it goes:

next day:

 

Notice: there was no arguing or awkward silences when I asked for deposit. Issue is: some people do just the opposite. Appointment request comes thru, everything seems on track, ask for a deposit: no response. Or some entitled story about how they never paid one and been hiring for 20 years etc etc.

And this guy has been scammed before. But he understood: it had nothing to do with me. At all. Real recognize real. No drama necessary. 

Here’s an example of a bad ☹️ booking request:

 

The word “Never” is mentioned twice, then made to feel gaslit and unappreciated. Who has time for all that? I’m trying to provide relaxation and an experience. Yet I’m having to explain what I already explained in my ad: something I sit and spend hours perfecting to ensure everybody understands.

Edited October 2, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[pubic_assistance]

6 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

I sit and spend hours perfecting to ensure everybody understands.

Quote: "You must did not read the ad before hand."

Is this your idea of perfecting your message ?

Maybe some grammatical efforts would help people understand your messages.

But in all seriousness..although your argument for deposits-paid-if-you-want-to-get-laid,  may be valid. Most everyone who's been in the game for a while as a client, has been burnt or knows someone who has. So there's no reason to get all flustered and indignant when someone says NO. Most everyone with experience is in that category, no matter how much you try and validate your pro-deposit business model.

[soloyo215]

Hopefully the good experience gives you some hope that the bad ones will weed out.

[jeezifonly]

[BuffaloKyle]

😃

[Jarrod_Uncut]

21 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Quote: "You must did not read the ad before hand."

Is this your idea of perfecting your message ?

Maybe some grammatical efforts would help people understand your messages.

But in all seriousness..although your argument for deposits-paid-if-you-want-to-get-laid,  may be valid. Most everyone who's been in the game for a while as a client, has been burnt or knows someone who has. So there's no reason to get all flustered and indignant when someone says NO. Most everyone with experience is in that category, no matter how much you try and validate your pro-deposit business model.

For one, I’ve found iPhone typing to regular distort sentences at random. I’ve noticed this a few updates ago, so some things come out sounding much different than intended.
 

That said: The Deposit fears can easily be solved by reading a provider’s reviews and ad. Seeing how long they’ve been on the site. Asking questions or asking for alternatives. 

The issue is, some people clearly don’t read ads, to their detriment and my annoyance. If they did, they would see the positive reviews, along with me mentioning deposit in my ad, on my website and even a FAQ section that further explains that.
 

If somebody has been hiring for 20 years, he should also know how to read a profile. So at that point, conversation over because: he’s probably sending out mass messages and probably not reliable one way or another. 

And as far as getting burnt, I’ve explained this in a different forum: 

Edited October 3, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[ICTJOCK]

Glad to see you had a smooth booking in the first example.    I appreciate those as well.     What I found kind of odd was the 2nd example of the "bad booking".         

I think that shows a lack of consideration and appreciation for you and what you bring to the table  (so to speak).     He'd probably be a good candidate to be told "you follow this procedure,  or no booking".

Edited October 3, 2023 by ICTJOCK

[Marc in Calif]

10 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

For one, I’ve found iPhone typing to regular distort sentences at random. I’ve noticed this a few updates ago, so some things come out sounding much different than intended.

Perhaps you haven't thought of this: You can easily correct those distorted sentences. 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

13 hours ago, arnemgreeves said:

Good booking to me is just:

-Time

- Location

- Date

- Services

 

That's it. 

No back-and-forth messages. No sexting. No perverted comments. And pestering at unsocialable hours, or outside of their stated working times. 

 

on a serious note though: I would actually say: you said it all backwards lol. First, one needs to know services and rate (listed on ad and website for those who skip reading and go straight to phone number).

Then #2: client/provider can suggest an appropriate date. That way, we can at least get on the same page regarding how soon a visit is expected. If you’re trying to do a next day/same day booking: deposit is going to be suggested during/after the next step:

#3: once you figure out day, location can be discussed. This gives chance for both parties to figure out how long it’ll take. Note: you don’t just text someone and say “hey where are you?” Putting the 🛒 before the 🐎 is not good etiquette. And before I even give my location: a deposit is going to be asked. This is for safety and privacy reasons. 
 

#4: Then a time can be arranged. Suggesting a time before those mentions could lead to premature expectations. That’s why like I said before: I don’t always throw a time at clients the minute they demand it. Slow your roll, homie. Let’s get the basics out the way first, then we can settle on a time frame. And it might not be right away, if you waited until the last minute from the get go.

Like I’ve said before: I’m not the broken leg doctor, or AAA, or the tire repair you had no idea was going to happen. In those cases yes: it’s last minute, emergency, had no idea: requires immediate attention. But this is an intimate, luxury experience. Aka: date. People have to be a bit more courteous with these things. 

Edited October 4, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[+ DrownedBoy]

That's how I contact providers, although I don't like to do "follow up" texts unless I forgot to ask them something.

 

I do read escorts' ads ahead of time.

 

That being said, if a provider told me to "read his ad" in the manner described here, I would instantly judge that he has an attitude, and stop the conversation.

 

A similar incident happened. I was going to order an Uber for a provider, and asked if he needed one, but he replied with a sarcastic, "Oh, an Uber is extra now?" Again, that attitude made me cut him off.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

On 10/4/2023 at 1:58 PM, DrownedBoy said:

If a provider told me to "read his ad" in the manner described here, I would instantly judge that he has an attitude, and stop the conversation.

 

A similar incident happened. I was going to order an Uber for a provider, and asked if he needed one, but he replied with a sarcastic, "Oh, an Uber is extra now?" Again, that attitude made me cut him off.

Hun, that’s not a similar incident. That’s completely different. In my case: I may ask if someone has read my ad, if they presume to argue or say something like “cash only” despite me mentioning first line in my ad, and including it in my website. That shows the person did not read my ad. I just dealt with that today. Someone expected me to be willing to drive almost two hours away, and book a room for the visit: yet says he doesn’t want to send deposit. Meanwhile this is all mentioned in my ad and website. So clearly all he did was look at pictures, and then look for number. All the other info I posted, went out the 🪟 
 

That’s a lot different than saying you are asking if the guy needs an Uber. That is a nice gesture, but via text maybe the guy took it to mean: “I have to pay for your Uber too 🤨 “

Not even in the same league ⚾️ 

Edited October 13, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Guest]

I don't understand why you keep beating a dead horse. It's very simple. You have the right to set whatever prices and policies you want, and potential clients have the right to accept or reject those prices and policies. I would never send a deposit prior to meeting an escort, and I'm probably in the majority. However, if your business model is working for you, who is anyone to judge?

[Guest]

55 minutes ago, arnemgreeves said:

... I'm an adult not a little kid so I don't take that seriously...

You're such a good boy.

[Pd1_jap]

This topic has been beat to death. 

@Jarrod_Uncut if I was ever in your area and looking to hire. I'd pay YOU a deposit but only because I know your rep from this site. For clients who may do this less often or are less tech savvy this is a high hurdle, particularly given the sheer number of scams out there. 

It's an unfortunate situation. The majority of legit providers are being punished for the crimes of the shitty minority. It's unfair but it's the reality we live in. 

Deep breaths and still mind sexy.

Edited October 12, 2023 by Pd1_jap

[Guest]

21 minutes ago, Pd1_jap said:

This topic has been beat to death

💯 Relentless, infinite, perpetual tedium... let's put a fork in this one fellas. 

[Marc in Calif]

10 minutes ago, arnemgreeves said:

You mid-westerners [sic] are so alike. So arrogant and full of yourselves. 

This is pretty much the opposite of how typical midwestern personalities are described. You must know some pretty atypical folks in flyover country. 🤣

[+ The Big Guy]

15 minutes ago, Marc in Calif said:

This is pretty much the opposite of how typical midwestern personalities are described. You must know some pretty atypical folks in flyover country. 🤣

I thought @Unicorn was from California? 

[Marc in Calif]

2 minutes ago, arnemgreeves said:

Mid-westerners [sic] online are stuffy and hard-nosed, and overly sensitive to criticism when it's warranted 🤣. so easily triggered, and over nothing. 

You're really grasping at straws now to justify your ridiculous response!

Is your "online" sample size more than one midwesterner? 🤣

[+ DynamicUno]

3 minutes ago, The Big Guy said:

I thought @Unicorn was from California? 

I'm pretty sure Unicorn is from the West Coast and has no connection to the Best Coast. 😁

[Marc in Calif]

37 minutes ago, arnemgreeves said:

You mid-westerners are so alike. So arrogant and full of yourselves. Needing the orange man to save you. Also so insecure and childish. 

Biden actually flipped the Midwest in 2020 by winning both Wisconsin and Michigan. Do your research!  🙄

[Marc in Calif]

22 minutes ago, arnemgreeves said:

I'm not American. I also can admit ignorance and that i do not need to care about the politics of countries that are not my own. 

That said, I get the nature of mid-Westerners. I steer clear of them. Plus, he claims to be a doctor but uses these odd medical analyses of online strangers, and then gets upset when challenged. he's a little boy, not a grown man. 

Well, finally! Thanks for admitting that you have absolutely no knowledge about American people, their regions, their personalities, and their politics.

Yet you will continue to pontificate and make pronouncements despite such ignorance! 🙈🙉🙊

Edited October 12, 2023 by Marc in Calif

[MikeBiDude]

4 hours ago, Vin_Marco said:

let's put a fork in this one fellas. 

Agree....As a client/poster I've not enjoyed this thread since its (arrogant?) first post. I know how to book a provider. But I can always learn.

As a moderator...stop the sniping and return to the topic or we will lock it down...soon.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

5 hours ago, arnemgreeves said:

Mid-westerners online are stuffy and hard-nosed, and overly sensitive to criticism when it's warranted. so easily triggered, and over nothing. 

I appreciate you speaking up for me but, let’s not go that route lol. I don’t want to get off on the tangent of politics or stereotypes 😂 

Also, the Midwest is somewhat an unspoken territory around here. I don’t think many in the Midwest, consider it Midwest lol. And there’s Ohio, Indiana that also get branded as Midwest, even though they are in eastern time zone (which shares cities like New York and Miami). But technically: they are in the “middle” Of where the east and west begin, respectively:

1 hour ago, MikeBiDude said:

Agree....As a client/poster I've not enjoyed this thread since its (arrogant?) first post. I know how to book a provider. But I can always learn.

As a moderator...stop the sniping and return to the topic or we will lock it down...soon.

I’m glad you’re willing to learn. That’s what the purpose of it is. I didn’t mean to come off arrogant or pompous. 
 

It was just an example of how to make a good encounter versus an adversarial encounter. I actually hesitated on posting because I didn’t want to appear to be bragging, but I get tired of people making it seem like I’m perpetually frustrated or like having a deposit is a ticket to rejection.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

6 hours ago, Pd1_jap said:

This topic has been beat to death. 

@Jarrod_Uncut if I was ever in your area and looking to hire. I'd pay YOU a deposit but only because I know your rep from this site. For clients who may do this less often or are less tech savvy this is a high hurdle, particularly given the sheer number of scams out there. 

It's an unfortunate situation. The majority of legit providers are being punished for the crimes of the shitty minority. It's unfair but it's the reality we live in. 

Deep breaths and still mind sexy.

Thanks for the uplifting words. I know it’s hard to navigate the scammers, and someone new may be reluctant. But that’s why I give options when I can. I will sometimes say: instead of deposit, I can consider etc etc instead. We’ve already seen that, you don’t even HAVE to do a deposit, and still get scammed.

I just don’t like that there’s people cruising the sites, who try to put up a fight about deposits: or the word @Vin_Marco used: an honorarium. In my case, a nominal honorarium for basic upfront costs that I have to spend out of pocket. Whether that’s $100 on hotel or $20 for gas.
 

Uber does it

Lyft does it

Amazon does it

AMC movie theaters does it

Apple does it

RentMen themselves do it! They charge us upfront, before even guaranteeing we’ll ever get a client. No escort site allow us to post, and then pay out of proceeds of clients, unless it’s just a free site all together.

All these places and companies charge something before receiving material or service. I don’t care how many times someone has been scammed. If it wasn’t by me, it’s a non factor. Seekers must stop with the nonsense about making it seem they’re so horrified and shocked 😯 that an escort asks something upfront before meeting and/or travel. It’s not a hookup/dating app. Amazon is not delivering Tarzan before payment.

Edited October 13, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Midwest_Man]

Yeah it's amazing people view paying upfront for a legal service or product from a national corporation differently than paying an anonymous person upfront on the internet for an arguably illegal service.  But you just keep doing what you're doing as it sees to be working out great for you.