+ DrownedBoy Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 16 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said: It makes sense, but it's also incredibly sad to read. I spend time with guys who might not be in the same looks/body league as me, but the way you genuinely interact with someone makes all the difference. If you don't act like hired help, people around you won't give a shit. The bigger issue is how someone deals (or doesn't deal) with their own mental hangups. Yes, I have a mental hangup. If I had to appear in public with an escort, I'd want one I can have intelligent conversation with. I've had dinner with hot escorts, whose main conversation topic was themselves, who seemed to have no knowledge or interests beyond thst sphere, and who acted like young spoiled brats. Empty headed guys may be perfect for a romp, but not for me to actually relate to. If you want an escort for companionship, you need to be compatible. And I look for that in the mind pubic_assistance, liubit and + ThroatCummer 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Just now, DrownedBoy said: Yes, I have a mental hangup. If I had to appear in public with an escort, I'd want one I can have intelligent conversation with. I've had dinner with hot escorts, whose main conversation topic was themselves, who seemed to have no knowledge or interests beyond thst sphere, and who acted like young spoiled brats. Empty headed guys may be perfect for a romp, but not for me to actually relate to. If you want an escort for companionship, you need to be compatible. And I look for that in the mind So, you basically just repeated what I said before. Got it. A) You've had bad experiences picking the wrong dining companion. B) You will make better decisions and do more research in the future. Sounds like a win to me. MikeBiDude and + BobPS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ bashful Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) On 10/5/2023 at 9:50 AM, Rudynate said: I think there are guys on cruise ships who are hired to provide company to unaccompanied women. It's true. Back in the 80's I worked coordinating flight reservations for cruise line passengers. When I was just beginning the job, got a call, and she was booking 2 for a flight. I asked if I should get them seated together. She said no. there just the "gigolos" . I laughed, and ask what? She said they're just there to talk, play cards, and maybe dance with the older women. Edited October 15, 2023 by bashful Marc in Calif, + DrownedBoy, + The Big Guy and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudynate Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, bashful said: It's true. Back in the 80's I worked coordinating flight reservations for cruise line passengers. When I was just beginning the job, got a call, and she was booking 2 for a flight. I asked if I should get them seated together. She said no. there just the "gigolos" . I laughed, and ask what? She said they're just there to talk, play cards, and maybe dance with the older women. I know a guy who plays piano on cruise ships. He said the cruise line provides them. They call them "gentlemen hosts" or something like that." They sit and chat unaccompanied women up, have drinks with them, keep them company, etc etc. + bashful and pubic_assistance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudynate Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Rudynate said: I know a guy who plays piano on cruise ships. He said the cruise line provides them. They call them "gentlemen hosts" or something like that." They sit and chat unaccompanied women up, have drinks with them, keep them company, etc etc. Actually, no, he doesn't play piano. That's what he does here. On cruise ships, he teaches bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ purplekow Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, Rudynate said: I know a guy who plays piano on cruise ships. He said the cruise line provides them. They call them "gentlemen hosts" or something like that." They sit and chat unaccompanied women up, have drinks with them, keep them company, etc etc. I hire a bisexual escort who has a male client who runs a small tour service to Italy four times a year. The escort is the tour liaison who insures that the members of the tour have the schedule, are able to get into the restaurants they desire and for the single ladies, he ensures that they have a partner for dinner and after dinner and of course, after after dinner. He says he rarely gets queries from men on the tour but he does offer them the same services. pubic_assistance, + The Big Guy and + bashful 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ DrownedBoy Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 14 hours ago, purplekow said: I hire a bisexual escort who has a male client who runs a small tour service to Italy four times a year. The escort is the tour liaison who insures that the members of the tour have the schedule, are able to get into the restaurants they desire and for the single ladies, he ensures that they have a partner for dinner and after dinner and of course, after after dinner. He says he rarely gets queries from men on the tour but he does offer them the same services. And here the Japanese think they invented the host club..... Marc in Calif 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc in Calif Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 2 hours ago, DrownedBoy said: And here the Japanese think they invented the host club..... Is there a Japanese word for a male geisha? 😎 + augustus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwine56 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 On 10/5/2023 at 7:08 PM, Rudynate said: I've never been in a situation like that, so I can't be sure, but I just don't think I would care. Obviously, the guy needs social skills, but why not choose somebody who's drop-dead handsome? I don't feel like I have anything to hide. For years, I have thought about hiring a guy to go to church with me. I love midnight mass on Christmas Eve and my husband won't go because he hates Christianity. It would be great to make an evening of it with a guy who looks terrific in a nice suit, have dinner before, and turn heads when we walk into Grace Cathedral. Actually, my husband would be completely OK with it. Then do it especially if you have hubby's approval! Why not? Sounds like a wonderful idea. Those who know you will think you've found a new beau. 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudynate Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Redwine56 said: Then do it especially if you have hubby's approval! Why not? Sounds like a wonderful idea. Those who know you will think you've found a new beau. 😅 San Francisco is a big small town - I could well run into people that I know. They would think I was cheating on him. Redwine56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ purplekow Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Rudynate said: San Francisco is a big small town - I could well run into people that I know. They would think I was cheating on him. Que scandal. There has to be something to keep the little birdies chirping. As long as you know the truth and your hubby knows the truth. Let them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeezifonly Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 If I was going hire for companionship, I would hire a smart and personable troll much older than my retired self. I shall look more appealing by the minute to everyone else there. + DrownedBoy, Marc in Calif and + robear 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudynate Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, purplekow said: Que scandal. There has to be something to keep the little birdies chirping. As long as you know the truth and your hubby knows the truth. Let them. He gives me a long leash - but he insists on complete transparency - no secrets or bullshiting MikeBiDude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Man in Arlington Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/5/2023 at 10:50 AM, Rudynate said: I think there are guys on cruise ships who are hired to provide company to unaccompanied women. Every cruise ship has these gentlemen. Fortunately for the unaccompanied women, they only indirectly pay for them through their fares. Or, rather to say, all of the customers help chip in, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudynate Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Your Man in Arlington said: Every cruise ship has these gentlemen. Fortunately for the unaccompanied women, they only indirectly pay for them through their fares. Or, rather to say, all of the customers help chip in, too! I assumed that they would be tipped . . . generously I hope. Your Man in Arlington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ DrownedBoy Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 20 hours ago, Your Man in Arlington said: Every cruise ship has these gentlemen. Fortunately for the unaccompanied women, they only indirectly pay for them through their fares. Or, rather to say, all of the customers help chip in, too! I'd ask: 1. How do you know which gentlemen are the "gigilos?" I'd hope they don't have a tag that says so. 2. Do gay cruises bother hiring gigilos? Doesn't seem like you'd need them unless you know you have an older crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 On 9/29/2023 at 1:00 PM, pubic_assistance said: ... Nobody wants to be the sad only lonely queen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Man in Arlington Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) @DrownedBoy So, the cruises I went on with my aging grandparents before they passed away were mainstream (not gay) and all inclusive, even tips. Certain cruises advertised as having "Gentlmen Hosts" who I believe wore a special pin, were age equivalent to and would serve as strictly platonic dance partners for the older single women on the cruise. Not being an older single women, I never discovered learned the details of how they worked or whether they engaged in off duty activities. But, I would describe them as being more "handsome," at least to their customers, than as being "hot." Edited October 18, 2023 by Your Man in Arlington Fixed typo, meant "an" instead of "on" pubic_assistance and + DrownedBoy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJOCK Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 After authoring this thread, I now have had a perspective client inquire about my spending time with me without anything physical. He explained that "You don't have to do anything, just spend time with me. I hear you are a great conversationalist". He did admit he wouldn't mind my bearing my shirtless torso. I was a little surprised, but it became apparent that this gentleman was lonely and was looking for a fresh perspective on things in general. I didn't take it he wanted to tell me a bunch of his personal problems. I told him I would be happy to provide service in this capacity. + ThroatCummer, Your Man in Arlington, Simon Suraci and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 hours ago, ICTJOCK said: it became apparent that this gentleman was lonely Never underestimate how lonely men of a certain generation can be... They isolated themselves with no relationships / hid in the closet their whole life / fear that homosexual contact will make them "bad". There are many reasons people end up lonely and just looking for companionship. People older than 50 all grew up in a world very different from today. + BobPS, + DrownedBoy, liubit and 6 others 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Man in Arlington Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said: Never underestimate how lonely men of a certain generation can be... They isolated themselves with no relationships / hid in the closet their whole life / fear that homosexual contact will make them "bad". There are many reasons people end up lonely and just looking for companionship. People older than 50 all grew up in a world very different from today. I'm in my early 50's, came out in the 80's I was 15, found acceptance with friends and family, and went on to live a fairly liberated life. I was certainly the exception, and so many men my age and older were less fortunate by those that surrounded them, lived years of internalized self hate or disgust, and as you said, ended up living very isolated lives. Providers can/are doing meaningful work in this way, though it might not be so apparent. liubit, spidir and Simon Suraci 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, Your Man in Arlington said: I'm in my early 50's, came out in the 80's I was 15, found acceptance with friends and family, and went on to live a fairly liberated life. I was certainly the exception, and so many men my age and older were less fortunate by those that surrounded them, lived years of internalized self hate or disgust, and as you said, ended up living very isolated lives. Providers can/are doing meaningful work in this way, though it might not be so apparent. Indeed, you are very fortuitous and seem to be very grateful 🙂 thank you for saying what you said and sharing 🙏🏽🥰 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJOCK Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Never underestimate how lonely men of a certain generation can be... They isolated themselves with no relationships / hid in the closet their whole life / fear that homosexual contact will make them "bad". There are many reasons people end up lonely and just looking for companionship. People older than 50 all grew up in a world very different from today. I would agree and interesting what services a client might pay for. A regular client of mine pays me to send him a new photo of me in my underwear every day. I just have to supply him a weekly photo of 7 pieces of my underwear . Kind of fun, I keep trying to keep it fresh. Hence the one from yesterday, about laying down on the job.....lol claym, pubic_assistance, spidir and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 5 hours ago, Your Man in Arlington said: I'm in my early 50's, came out in the 80's I was 15, found acceptance with friends and family, and went on to live a fairly liberated life. I was certainly the exception. You were "the exception" for coming out in high school ? Curious because we are the same age. None of MY classmates were "out" in high school but friends who are younger than me, often claimed to have come out in their teens. I think the 90s were a turning point for visibility spidir 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Man in Arlington Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said: You were "the exception" for coming out in high school ? Curious because we are the same age. None of MY classmates were "out" in high school but friends who are younger than me, often claimed to have come out in their teens. I think the 90s were a turning point for visibility I came out between my Sophomore and Junior year in '85, and I was the only out student in my High School during my four years there. I noticed a change for young people around the time My So Called Life aired in the mid-1990's. Coming out in the 1980's was not only tough enough in terms of general societal acceptance, but mainstream society starting to learn of AIDS crisis made it exponentially more difficult. My mom, while supportive of me as a person, was 100% sure I was going to die of AIDS at first. pubic_assistance, thomas and spidir 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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