How to handle the fake orgasm

[tenderloin]

When I hire, I make clear that I enjoy cum and am looking for him to pop at some point during our meeting. I even say that if he isn't willing to cum in our session, I would rather not hire.  Lately I have noticed a few times when, through a variety of means (Some use a lot of saliva and/or lube to create a "wet" environment, etc... use your imagination) they put on a great act but don't actually nut. 

My question is how to respond. I understand that they are not robots, but I also know that some just want to hold off as long as possible for second or third clients. And this is something I have made clear is important to me. 

How would you react? 

[Bucky]

What's your motivation for calling him out on it? 

[+ DynamicUno]

8 minutes ago, Bucky said:

What's your motivation for calling him out on it? 

Sometimes you feel like a nut...

[tenderloin]

20 minutes ago, Bucky said:

What's your motivation for calling him out on it? 

I hire you to perform a service. I pay you your rate. You do not deliver as agreed.  I should just smile and wish you a good night? 

[Danny-Darko]

5 hours ago, tenderloin said:

When I hire, I make clear that I enjoy cum and am looking for him to pop at some point during our meeting. I even say that if he isn't willing to cum in our session, I would rather not hire.  Lately I have noticed a few times when, through a variety of means (Some use a lot of saliva and/or lube to create a "wet" environment, etc... use your imagination) they put on a great act but don't actually nut. 

My question is how to respond. I understand that they are not robots, but I also know that some just want to hold off as long as possible for second or third clients. And this is something I have made clear is important to me. 

How would you react? 

I've literally encountered this everywhere across the globe. It happened and it's frustrating, because one feels cheated that they didn't live up to their end of the bargain! However, one can't oblige somebody to cum if they can't or just don't for whatever reason, especially if they fake it. I've handled this the same way I handle the last minute up sales; I don't repeat ever again! And if they ask as several have when I've cum across them again, I tell them why! And dismiss them and there is no second chances for me. Hopefully they learn a lesson and learn it's good business practices to give the customer what he asked and paid for and make him happy. After all, what else can one do? Have a fight? Beat the cum out of him? Call the police? Report him to the Better Business Bureau? That is why reviews are so important to spread the news, so they don't get the business. Hit them where it hurt, in their pocket!  😉

Edited September 22, 2023 by Danny-Darko

[ICTJOCK]

This is an interesting topic.   Let me say that with some clients,  I naturally just don't get off.   It is about the client and not me.    

It is also helpful for those days when we have multiple clients in a day.   If you would expect your provider to get off with you,  I'd make sure

to communicate that with him in advance.    It might be the kind of thing where he doesn't book a lot of clients in advance so he can perform up to your expectations and a way that is meaningful..

[Pd1_jap]

I personally get anxiety about this. I generally don't have a problem reaching climax but when anxious it's nearly impossible. So I admit I've faked a few orgasms but the other person always knows. However, I have never been paid to cum before. 

[soloyo215]

1 hour ago, tenderloin said:

When I hire, I make clear that I enjoy cum and am looking for him to pop at some point during our meeting. I even say that if he isn't willing to cum in our session, I would rather not hire.  Lately I have noticed a few times when, through a variety of means (Some use a lot of saliva and/or lube to create a "wet" environment, etc... use your imagination) they put on a great act but don't actually nut. 

My question is how to respond. I understand that they are not robots, but I also know that some just want to hold off as long as possible for second or third clients. And this is something I have made clear is important to me. 

How would you react? 

If it's discussed as part of the deal, I'd let him know that he didn't fool me. No need to tell him in a nasty way, but you should expect to get what I pay for.

[soloyo215]

1 minute ago, soloyo215 said:

...you should expect to get what I pay for.

I meant, "what you paid for".

[+ DrownedBoy]

I understand the agreement,  but I'll never understand why clients "require" that a provider comes. There's too many factors beyond everyone's control.

I'd say offer a decent tip if they come. Nobody would agree to an hour of work where they might not get paid.

[Jamie21]

A client insisting that the guy cums is like the team manager insisting that the striker in a football (soccer game) scores every game. Sure, he’s there to score goals but you can’t force him to.

In fact I find that the more insistent the client is that I cum the more difficult it becomes. Especially when they say they want you to cum inside there’s something about the pressure to perform which makes it more difficult to perform.

My advice to clients is, by all means ask, but the best way to get what you want is to avoid being prescriptive and demanding. Most providers will very quickly work out what you like and will deliver it. 

[Simon Suraci]

Bravo @tenderloin for communicating your desires upfront. There's nothing wrong with asking for what you want. I wish more clients would do the same. If the provider can't deliver, he shouldn't agree to meet you. Faking it is no substitute. Pressuring the provider is not going to get you what you want either. I concur with:

6 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

In fact I find that the more insistent the client is that I cum the more difficult it becomes. Especially when they say they want you to cum inside there’s something about the pressure to perform which makes it more difficult to perform.

My advice to clients is, by all means ask, but the best way to get what you want is to avoid being prescriptive and demanding. Most providers will very quickly work out what you like and will deliver it. 

I factor in cum. That's why I take fewer escort clients. I can only shoot a load so many times in a given day and I want it to be special for the clients who are specifically hiring me for the service. For some, it's important that I cum for them one (or more) times (usually once), and I make sure I can deliver according to their desires by spacing out clients and limiting how many I take. I can't guarantee cum by any means, but nearly all such requests I am able to fulfill.

I confess once in a great while I fake it, but not because I am trying to save up for another client. Although I don't force cum if it's unimportant to the client. Sometimes what they want doesn't require me to cum at all and they are perfectly happy without it. In that case, I'm not going to blow a load unless I personally want to. Even then, I would probably hold off to save myself the maximum mojo I can muster for a known or potential client later.

One particular client comes to mind. He wants me to cum "on command" when I am inside him. I can't do that every time, although I try. I spend a good deal of energy NOT reaching orgasm so that I can pleasure him for as long as he wants. Then suddenly he wants to snap his fingers and make me explode. I can sometimes, or at least in short order. Other times, I have to fake it because it would take me too long to get back up to that point of no return. It's more important and more hot for him to perceive that I came at his command. He's bi-curious and has very little experience with men, pretty much only me as far as I know. I like to think he doesn't know better. He's never called me out on the O, and I like to think I am quite convincing when it counts. I don't make a habit of faking it. Sometimes, you have to for the sake of the client. Most clients know better, so I won't even go there.

Side note, one of my clients likes to pay more "per additional load". It's part of his pay pig kink but also just because cum is hot and exciting to him. This dynamic was particularly fun (and motivating!) when he hired me to bring in two other working guys where we all three coat him with load after load toward the end of the session. We delivered more than one each. I think for me it was three. For him, part of the thrill was the cha-ching sounds in his own head when we kept earning more and more fee. That was a good payout. And man, did that client have the time of his life! Sometimes paying more for more cum can be a good incentive. I realize the pay pig thing is a niche interest and not for everyone. Still a fun thing to try, even on a smaller scale.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

27 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

A client insisting that the guy cums is like the team manager insisting that the striker in a football (soccer game) scores every game. Sure, he’s there to score goals but you can’t force him to.

In fact I find that the more insistent the client is that I cum the more difficult it becomes. Especially when they say they want you to cum inside there’s something about the pressure to perform which makes it more difficult to perform.

My advice to clients is, by all means ask, but the best way to get what you want is to avoid being prescriptive and demanding. Most providers will very quickly work out what you like and will deliver it. 

Best answer right here. 

[Guest]

7 hours ago, tenderloin said:

When I hire, I make clear that I enjoy cum and am looking for him to pop at some point during our meeting. I even say that if he isn't willing to cum in our session, I would rather not hire...

Well, I have to preface by saying that I don't understand your requirement, nor does it seem to me quite reasonable to require cumming. That being said, if this is such a major reason as to why you're hiring him, you should have a pre-determined agreement as to the consequences for not cumming. I suppose it would be reasonable to come to a mutual agreement such as "$300 if you cum, $200 if you don't," and the escort can decide whether or not to agree to your demands. You should bear in mind that his cumming will affect his ability to take on more clients later that day, so he may insist on a premium even larger than $100 extra. I wouldn't be surprised if he counters with "$400 if I cum, $250 if I don't." 

So I can't imagine this could be a hard-and-fast expectation, but you could negotiate a bonus between the two of you in the event of success.

[soloyo215]

10 hours ago, DrownedBoy said:

I understand the agreement,  but I'll never understand why clients "require" that a provider comes. There's too many factors beyond everyone's control.

I'd say offer a decent tip if they come. Nobody would agree to an hour of work where they might not get paid.

I'm not inside other people's minds, so this is just a guess and probably based on my own criteria. I'd feel better if I know that I am desirable enough to make a person come. It's part of the satisfaction. That said, to me is not required, as I also understand that providers need to save energy for other clients. However, the act of the provider coming doesn't necessarily satisfy me.

[tenderloin]

19 hours ago, Unicorn said:

Well, I have to preface by saying that I don't understand your requirement, nor does it seem to me quite reasonable to require cumming...You should bear in mind that his cumming will affect his ability to take on more clients later that day, so he may insist on a premium even larger than $100 extra.

Well, the way I see it, HE should bear it in mind.  As I said in my original post, I make it clear that cum is important for me. If he doesn't want to, or wants to try to schtuupp 20 other guys that night, he shouldn't take me on as a client because he is not willing to meet my stated expectations.  My problem is with the guys who agree, and then try to fake it. 

[dbar123]

I kind of put this in the same category as expecting the escort to stay hard for some defined period of time. I would never penalize someone for not cumming or getting soft….but having both is a reasonable expectation within a session

[Guest]

1 hour ago, tenderloin said:

...My problem is with the guys who agree, and then try to fake it. 

Well, you asked how to respond, so other posters on this string are giving you some advice. My advice, echoed by some others, is that no one can guarantee an orgasm. If you're able to get an orgasm 100% of the times you try, even with frequent sexual encounters, you're in the minority. Few people can. This is not analogous to my asking my cleaning lady "I'll give you an extra $60 if you clean my windows," and then she can either say yes or no. Nor should it be appropriate to completely stiff (so to speak) the escort if he can't cum. What can be negotiated, beforehand, is that you'll pay $X if he cums, and $Y if he doesn't. 

Edited September 23, 2023 by Unicorn

[Pd1_jap]

Often times, demands and expectations can get in the way of having a good time. I would suggest trying to make it a sexy game aome how. 

When, a guy I barely know, starts demanding I cum immediately, it turns me off. However, if you can get inside his head and find out what turns him on then you can make him cum with erotica and not demands. 

I once met with a straight provider who was having trouble maintaining a stiff wind. I immediately took the pressure off and started asking what turned him on. All it took was me telling him about one of my rare sexual experiences with women, "her pussy was tight and pink. It gripped my cock tighter than any woman before...". BINGO, five minutes later he's fucking my throat with a fully hard 9" cock. His cum tasted extra sweet. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Pd1_jap said:

...one of my rare sexual experiences with women, "her pussy was tight and pink. It gripped my cock tighter than any woman before...". BINGO, five minutes later he's fucking my throat with a fully hard 9" cock. His cum tasted extra sweet. 

That reminds me of my experiences with trans escorts. You might want to try it. Then you could recall "his pussy was tight and pink. It gripped my cock tighter...". 😍

[+ DrownedBoy]

On 9/23/2023 at 4:15 PM, Pd1_jap said:

I once met with a straight provider who was having trouble maintaining a stiff wind. I immediately took the pressure off and started asking what turned him on. All it took was me telling him about one of my rare sexual experiences with women, "her pussy was tight and pink. It gripped my cock tighter than any woman before...". BINGO, five minutes later he's fucking my throat with a fully hard 9" cock. His cum tasted extra sweet. 

I've met a "bisexual" escort who kept talking to himself about his "girlfriend" even when I had him in my mouth. He kept moaning, "Oh man, I really wish I was with a woman."

I thought it was both creepy and insulting, and couldn't get rid of him quickly enough.

[TopBunk]

What about making it worth his effort? $300 includes your cum, $250 otherwise.

[+ DrownedBoy]

I had a regular fake an orgasm once. I told him he was sweet, but he didn't need to.

[marylander1940]

On 9/22/2023 at 11:53 AM, tenderloin said:

When I hire, I make clear that I enjoy cum and am looking for him to pop at some point during our meeting. I even say that if he isn't willing to cum in our session, I would rather not hire.  Lately I have noticed a few times when, through a variety of means (Some use a lot of saliva and/or lube to create a "wet" environment, etc... use your imagination) they put on a great act but don't actually nut. 

My question is how to respond. I understand that they are not robots, but I also know that some just want to hold off as long as possible for second or third clients. And this is something I have made clear is important to me. 

How would you react? 

yes, you understand, if the cum they may not be able to see someone after, besides most of them are on Viagra and that usually delays the orgasm and some because of their job or personal circumstances can't cum under pressure or when they're told to do so. 

Just offer a tip for a real orgasm. 

[Your Man in Arlington]

Back when I was a provider almost 30 years ago, the focus of my all of my sessions was getting the client off. And, because ejaculation is an autonomic nervous system response, I would never offer or promise to be able to do so as part of interactive activities. I did have one client with that requirement, though unspoken, but all he wanted to do was jack off next to each other, which was entirely achievable.

Now that I'm a client, based on my past experience, I never expect it. I do always ask a provider if they want to get off after or with me, and am gratified when they do.

All of that said, if someone agreed to and couldn't, they really shouldn't try and fake it somehow with other liquid substances. Reminds me of the joke:

Q: How does a gay man fake an orgasm?

A: He spits on your back.