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It’s also important to understand gay porn’s foundational beginnings….

One of the first gay porn studios (it was either Colt or Falcon), had strict requirements in their films….the actors were required to be:

1.) Young

2.) Fit

3.) White (preferably blonde). And in this particular studio, if black actors performed, they either played secondary roles (as like the hotel doorman or something), of if in a sex scene, could only Top and never Bottom.

4.) Masculine presenting 

5.) and the soles of their feet had to be clean (there are a lot of films (of all genres), that neglected to address this issue and would accidentally capture male performers with dirty feet. 

This same studio was also made aware (in advance) of the pending AIDS epidemic, didn’t inform their actors and still pressured them into condomless sex, which killed an entire generation of young porn actors. 

Once  I find the documentary, I’ll post it here. 
 

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33 minutes ago, Monarchy79 said:

Hard Truth: Gay men (for the most part) are mean to each other. In fact, so mean, that there are tons of social media posts, Reddit threads and discussion points on the topic. 

true 

the abused/marginalized frequently recreate the abusive dynamic as the aggressor when they feel someone is below them, or less than, for whatever reason.  
and many are too damaged and lacking any self-awareness to know 

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11 minutes ago, SouthOfTheBorder said:

true 

the abused/marginalized frequently recreate the abusive dynamic as the aggressor when they feel someone is below them, or less than, for whatever reason.  
and many are too damaged and lacking any self-awareness to know 

You make an excellent point, and this further delves into the social aspect of human beings overall and how groups who are marginalized will marginalize the next group they believe is beneath them on the social “hierarchy”. 
Although gay men have endured a lot of marginalization, this community created its  own microcosm of internal discrimination to further continue this pathetic cycle. 
 

 

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3 hours ago, Monarchy79 said:

What he  @pubic_assistancesaid reflects the actual reality of what gay men say to themselves and to each other when they see images like this. 

Well...I'm not "gay" (maybe half)..so I don't speak for that community.

As far as "being mean". I'm pretty sure that obese whale of a human isnt here on the site.  So there is no one to be mean to. I am sharing an honest opinion on a forum designed to share opinions.  We aren't at a lady's tea party where I am restricted to complimenting your dress and talk about the weather. So my opinion stands.

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There is already gay porn that appeals to chubby chasers.  Sorry in advance if the term offends some of you.   Bears?

But the OP focus is on gay porn that the majority already watch.  Should gay porn incorporate large and generally out of shape guys?  A new kind of hybrid gay porn?  Some might say "woke" porn.   

Perhaps it would sell. Perhaps not.

Producers need to make a profit.   If something will sell, go for it.  If not, then why create content just because they "should".  Because it's the right thing to do?  Because it's good for society? 🥳💯

The porn company might need nonprofit status. 

Who's in?   

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2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Well...I'm not "gay" (maybe half)..so I don't speak for that community.

As far as "being mean". I'm pretty sure that obese whale of a human isnt here on the site.  So there is no one to be mean to. I am sharing an honest opinion on a forum designed to share opinions.  We aren't at a lady's tea party where I am restricted to complimenting your dress and talk about the weather. So my opinion stands.

I respect what you call yourself, but from your posts, you are at least the “B” or “Q” in LGBTQ…. So you’re a member… lol…

And your quips, commentary, sharp responses may not be done with a “limp wrist”, but they are in -par with most gay men I’ve encountered. 

Futher, I never said anything bad about your comments. I clearly stated that your comments aren’t shocking or unexpected, and it’s the “normal” sentiment, in this community. 

And yes, you are “mean”, and we’ve debated about this before 😂

And you can’t help yourself, and you enjoy it. 

 

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2 hours ago, Monarchy79 said:

And yes, you are “mean”, and we’ve debated about this before 😂

And you can’t help yourself, and you enjoy it. 

I enjoy being myself. Always have.

Maybe the "limpwristed" crowd don't enjoy my frankness, but enough of the gentlemen here do...So I refute this accusation that any opinion about physical appearance on a site that frequently discusses physical appearance is "mean" if it's not pretending to be kind.

No victim/ no crime.

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2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

I’m pretty sure that obese whale of a human isnt here on the site. 

That may be a fact. 
But the truth is that out of the thousands of members on this site, there’s going to be someone who looks like that guy, is his weight, and has been insulted with such comments, and your posting is going to trigger their past trauma. 
 

I know how you roll, but I have a preference for forum posts that are honest, but also are less vitriolic. We endure enough of that outside of this forum in real life, so let’s try to be civil here and create a safe space for opinions and even debate. 

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1 minute ago, pubic_assistance said:

I enjoy being myself. Always have.

Maybe the "limpwristed" crowd don't enjoy my frankness, but enough of gentlemen here do...So I refute this accusation that any opinion about physical appearance on a site that frequently discusses physical appearance is "mean" if it's not pretending to be kind.

No victim/ no crime.

I’m not “limp wristed” either. I’m more like “iron fisted”.

I’m the guy who:

1.) Shuts smart mouth “limp wrists” up, 

2.) Neutralizes cattiness

3.) Beats up bullies, and 

4.) Stops traffic to let a family of ducks walk by. 

 

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12 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

I enjoy being myself. Always have.

Maybe the "limpwristed" crowd don't enjoy my frankness, but enough of gentlemen here do...So I refute this accusation that any opinion about physical appearance on a site that frequently discusses physical appearance is "mean" if it's not pretending to be kind.

No victim/ no crime.

Just because people agree with your antics doesn’t make it “just”. 

It just means that they are just like you. 

And any grown man who thinks it’s cute to crack fat jokes on someone, calling them such juvenile names as “whale of a man” leave a lot to be desired when it comes to class, maturity and overall decency. 
 

You may not proclaim yourself to be limp wristed, but if your comments could be personified;  a pink, patent-leathered Chanel purse would fall right out of your mouth… 

Now I am going to gift you the rare gift of having the last word, as I don’t want this forum to be closed by the moderator…. 
 

You’re Welcome. 

 

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6 minutes ago, Monarchy79 said:

But the truth is that out of the thousands of members on this site, there’s going to be someone who looks like that guy, is his weight, and has been insulted with such comments, and your posting is going to trigger their past trauma. 

Your "truth" is in your head. Not mine.

Like I said ..the guy isn't on the site.

So no one should feel insulted.

You're reaching.

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22 hours ago, MaybeMaybeNot said:

If people want to watch him, more power to them.  There is an audience for him

FYI - the OnlyFans creator being discussed is SantanaXXL.  He is a very successful OF creator in terms of likes, subscribers & income generated. OF “likes” can only be made by subscribers which is an indicator of subscribers/income.  He’s so successful that he maintains a separate site that sells various merchandise - very few OF creators generate enough interest for merchandise sales. 

While his audience may not be the people here - he has a huge audience that supports him.  He routinely films with very popular creators that do fit with more traditional ideas of male beauty & sexy - he doesn’t seem to have any problem getting willing collaborators.  Obviously they know the upside of appearing with him and/or there is an attraction. btw - he has 788,000 followers on Twitter

I tend to have far more respect for anyone that manages to succeed while overcoming societal expectations, discrimination, judgment through their own drive, ambition & despite all the odds.  I can only imagine how many times this guy was told he couldn’t do exactly what he did. 

 

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11 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said:

FYI - the OnlyFans creator being discussed is SantanaXXL. He is a very successful OF creator in terms of likes, subscribers & income generated. OF “likes” can only be made by subscribers which is an indicator of subscribers/income.  He’s so successful that he maintains a separate site that sells various merchandise - very few OF creators generate enough interest for merchandise sales. 

And mainstream on men.com

https://twitter.com/Men/status/1785353563809415667

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4 hours ago, nycman said:

Holy crap, that was you in town yesterday?

God, I wanted to run you over. 

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LOL!!!! 
 

I have pissed a few people off. 
For those who live in DC, there are quite a few roadways that go through park area with lots of wildlife. That includes ducks, geese, possum, groundhogs, deer, foxes, and other animals. It’s common to stop to let them through. 
 

But human pedestrians and cyclists in my town are actually the worst, and I’d prefer to run over them. 

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On 5/4/2024 at 3:26 PM, Monarchy79 said:

I’m not “limp wristed” either. I’m more like “iron fisted”.

I’m the guy who:

1.) Shuts smart mouth “limp wrists” up, 

2.) Neutralizes cattiness

3.) Beats up bullies, and 

4.) Stops traffic to let a family of ducks walk by. 

 

RE: 4.) It's waddle, not walk. If ducks walk by, let them run out of your right of way.

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