Any experience with Wegovy?

[+ WilliamM]

On 5/21/2024 at 12:30 PM, MikeBiDude said:

Stomach paralysis?

Weight-loss drugs linked to stomach paralysis, other serious gastrointestinal conditions - UBC Faculty of Medicine

WWW.MED.UBC.CA

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First-of-its-kind epidemiological study finds GLP-1 agonist medications like Ozempic and Wegovy can cause serious gastrointestinal conditions when used...

 

Thanks 

Important post 😁 

[+ JEC]

On 5/21/2024 at 12:30 PM, MikeBiDude said:

Stomach paralysis?

Weight-loss drugs linked to stomach paralysis, other serious gastrointestinal conditions - UBC Faculty of Medicine

WWW.MED.UBC.CA

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First-of-its-kind epidemiological study finds GLP-1 agonist medications like Ozempic and Wegovy can cause serious gastrointestinal conditions when used...

 

As with many medications, a small % have complications.  The benefits here are amazing, and more and more secondary health benefits are being published as a result of weight loss: reduction in kidney disease, heart disease, diabetes, etc etc.  So, as with any breakthrough treatment....YMMV, consider the risks and benefits, and closely monitor your response/reaction to the medication.  Over time, newer versions and dosing will emerge with fewer side effects, each person needs to decide whether this treatment is right for you, now or in the future.  Good luck with your weight loss, and health gains! 

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Life is full of side-effects.  

We've become a society that foolishly avoids any discomfort, even if it means ultimately getting/staying healthier.

[+ FreshFluff]

On 7/22/2024 at 1:30 PM, BenjaminNicholas said:

Life is full of side-effects.  

We've become a society that foolishly avoids any discomfort, even if it means ultimately getting/staying healthier.

These drugs are a big advance in medicine and are probably worth the side effects for diabetics or obese people. For me, though, weight loss is not worth constant nausea--especially when my A1c, BP etc were already good. That's why I raw dogged it. 

Also, some of the side effects, like muscle wasting, happen whether you tolerate discomfort or not.  Increasing protein intake helps, but it's tough to get protein down when you're nauseous. 

[samhexum]

10 minutes ago, FreshFluff said:

it's tough to get protein down when you're nauseous. 

I'm sure more than a few members here would beg to differ. (oh, please!  please let me differ!)

 

[+ FreshFluff]

29 minutes ago, samhexum said:

I'm sure more than a few members here would beg to differ. (oh, please!  please let me differ!)

 

Uncomfortable to go down when stuff may come up.

[samhexum]

7 minutes ago, FreshFluff said:

Uncomfortable to go down when stuff may come up.

Confucius or fortune cookie?

Edited August 4, 2024 by samhexum
for shits and giggles

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

On 8/4/2024 at 4:31 AM, FreshFluff said:

Also, some of the side effects, like muscle wasting, happen whether you tolerate discomfort or not.  Increasing protein intake helps, but it's tough to get protein down when you're nauseous. 

Agreed that it's not fun, but it's effective in curbing appetite.

Most people can't stick to simply eating less and getting exercise.  They want the magic pill but with no magic side effects.  That's not the way life works.  You have to want it bad enough to suffer a bit.  It's kinda an important part of the process.

That's why the majority of people who lipo away their fat end up gaining it back at some point.

None of this is directed toward you:  It's just my general feeling on the hack society we now live in. 

[+ sniper]

On 7/22/2024 at 4:30 PM, BenjaminNicholas said:

Life is full of side-effects.  

We've become a society that foolishly avoids any discomfort, even if it means ultimately getting/staying healthier.

We've literally engineered activity out of daily life -even typing burns fewer calories now than it used to.  Some people have extraordinary willpower and/or a tendency to be thin in the first place, but most people lack one or both of those traits.   It's an uphill battle for most people to stay fit, and most people lose it.  But their lives in general would improve in other ways that might enable them to reinforce the better habits with that kickstart. I'm not ready to pull the trigger on it yet, but at 53 and 25 down with probably 80 to go and having trouble making progress,  I'm absolutely considering it.  I stayed fit up until my early 30s when back issues caught up with me and I could no longer run an hour a day and spend another 90 minutes in the weight room.

My sister just started because her doctor told her "for you, the risk of keeping the weight on is greater than the risk of side effects."  That's something to consider.  These generally aren't people who never actually tried to lose the weight.  They're people who have failed so many times they've lost count.

[marylander1940]

On 7/22/2024 at 4:30 PM, BenjaminNicholas said:

Life is full of side-effects.  

We've become a society that foolishly avoids any discomfort, even if it means ultimately getting/staying healthier.

Also we shouldn't assume everything could be solved just by taking a pill/injection. 

 

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

8 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Also we shouldn't assume everything could be solved just by taking a pill/injection. 

That's exactly right.  It's a slippery road to go down and is conditioning people to avoid any real work whatsoever.

I say that knowing full well that I keep my good health in part due to an injection (Apretude).

On the flip side, I bust my ass in the gym, eat healthy(ish) and fully avoid steroids to look the way I do.

[misterhumphries]

On 8/5/2024 at 2:34 PM, BenjaminNicholas said:

Agreed that it's not fun, but it's effective in curbing appetite.

Most people can't stick to simply eating less and getting exercise.  They want the magic pill but with no magic side effects.  That's not the way life works.  You have to want it bad enough to suffer a bit.  It's kinda an important part of the process.

That's why the majority of people who lipo away their fat end up gaining it back at some point.

None of this is directed toward you:  It's just my general feeling on the hack society we now live in. 

Sad but true. In fact, my doctor offered me TWICE that he would write me a prescription for Wegovy or Ozempic.. I never asked for any such thing! I have about 20 lbs to lose and I plan on doing it naturally. Since reading this thread, I question my doctor's motives. It is as if doctors are accustomed to patients wanting a quick fix to whatever ails them.

[+ FreshFluff]

On 9/12/2024 at 5:21 PM, misterhumphries said:

Sad but true. In fact, my doctor offered me TWICE that he would write me a prescription for Wegovy or Ozempic.. I never asked for any such thing! I have about 20 lbs to lose and I plan on doing it naturally. Since reading this thread, I question my doctor's motives. It is as if doctors are accustomed to patients wanting a quick fix to whatever ails them.

I lost weight without GLP1s, and my doctor is suspicious that it's the result of a malignancy. That would be a remarkable coincidence: I gained weight for years until  I read a book on how to stop eating at night, and quickly started losing weight. But I see where he's coming from: it was easier than it should have been given my age. We'll see how long my new happy weight lasts. 

Edited September 20, 2024 by FreshFluff

[samhexum]

4 hours ago, FreshFluff said:

We'll see how long my new happy weight lasts. 

I've been eating non-stop for a couple of months and have put on almost 10 pounds.  I'm completely out of control.

I saw my endocrinologist 9/6 and he said he'd see if he had any Ozempic samples to give me if I thought it would help get me restarted.

It turns out he had a 3 month supply.  It's still unopened 2 weeks later.

[+ nycman]

31 minutes ago, samhexum said:

It's still unopened 2 weeks later.

Like most medications, it doesn’t work when it’s still in the bottle….

Give it a shot! If you hate it, stop it. But at least you tried!

[mike carey]

12 minutes ago, nycman said:

Like most medications, it doesn’t work when it’s still in the bottle….

GASP!! Who knew?

[samhexum]

13 hours ago, nycman said:

Like most medications, it doesn’t work when it’s still in the bottle….

Give it a shot! If you hate it, stop it. But at least you tried!

I was on it for 7 months last year, until I couldn't afford to refill it, so I am familiar with it- I'm just still in the mood to binge eat (and further exacerbate my health problems).

Edited September 21, 2024 by samhexum
because he's bored as hell

[Luv2play]

One reason Europeans have fewer obese people is that they shop daily for their meals and store relatively little food in their larder. The historical reason for this was that most urban dwellers lived in small apartments with small appliances like refrigerators. 
 

Eating fresh food mostly and having ready access to small quantities so they wouldn’t spoil limited the ability to binge eating whenever the mood struck, like around midnight. 
 

I’m the same way and was even before living in Europe for several years. I had no trouble adjusting to their lifestyle. And I’ve been slim all of my life. And I do exercise regularly even  at 77 today. 

[+ FreshFluff]

10 hours ago, samhexum said:

I've been eating non-stop for a couple of months and have put on almost 10 pounds.  I'm completely out of control.

I saw my endocrinologist 9/6 and he said he'd see if he had any Ozempic samples to give me if I thought it would help get me restarted.

It turns out he had a 3 month supply.  It's still unopened 2 weeks later.

I read that the samples expire in about 2 months. Might be a good time to start and see if it helps. 

[samhexum]

10 hours ago, FreshFluff said:

I read that the samples expire in about 2 months. Might be a good time to start and see if it helps. 

I checked and the pens have an expiration date of January 2026.

 

 

Edited September 21, 2024 by samhexum
Because what the hell else is there to do at 4:56 in the morning?

[SoCalBaseball]

I'm in my 50s, and I used it briefly, but I found that it's very hard on making someone look older, at least my face. The results didn't come easily, diet and exercising help too, and the strain it put on my skin was cleat. As we age, our skin graduall y loses elasticity, so anything / loss too sudden can actually do more harm than good. That's why I agree that slow and steady lifting, exercise, along with a balanced diet and other good habits, is essential, not just the drug, for overall well-being and appearance. It's not just about the surface treatments or magic fixes; it really comes down to embracing a generally healthy lifestyle change that includes regular physical activity, proper intake of water, and getting enough sleep. These small big things contribute to weight, how we look and feel, and help our bodies, especially as we grow way older. Consistency key

[misterhumphries]

On 9/20/2024 at 6:24 AM, samhexum said:

I've been eating non-stop for a couple of months and have put on almost 10 pounds.  I'm completely out of control.

I saw my endocrinologist 9/6 and he said he'd see if he had any Ozempic samples to give me if I thought it would help get me restarted.

It turns out he had a 3 month supply.  It's still unopened 2 weeks later.

Articles about the effects and side effects of those drugs are everywhere! The reportage of the side effects is depressing. You may be doing the right thing in delaying taking them or not taking them at all. 

Edited September 22, 2024 by misterhumphries

[misterhumphries]

On 9/20/2024 at 4:26 PM, Luv2play said:

One reason Europeans have fewer obese people is that they shop daily for their meals and store relatively little food in their larder. The historical reason for this was that most urban dwellers lived in small apartments with small appliances like refrigerators. 
 

Eating fresh food mostly and having ready access to small quantities so they wouldn’t spoil limited the ability to binge eating whenever the mood struck, like around midnight. 
 

I’m the same way and was even before living in Europe for several years. I had no trouble adjusting to their lifestyle. And I’ve been slim all of my life. And I do exercise regularly even  at 77 today. 

True. And at least in Paris, people walk more on a daily basis. In contrast we  Americans  get huffy if we have to walk more than ten feet from the parking lot to the store entrance and are accustomed to larger portions of food

[56harrisond]

Doctors were convinced that a Norwegian man was simply fat for 12 years — but his growing belly was actually expanding with a 60-pound malignant tumor.

He was diagnosed with obesity and even got prescribed Ozempic before they discovered the growth, leading to a 10-hour surgery for its removal.

Thomas Kraut, 59, had the operation in Oslo, Norway, after his stomach kept getting bigger, with doctors initially convinced that he was simply overweight.

 

Man dismissed as 'fat' and given Ozempic before doctors find 60-pound...

NYPOST.COM

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Thomas Kraut, 59, was diagnosed as obese. After 12 years, a doctor finally realized that his rapidly growing belly...

 

[SometimesBi]

On 9/20/2024 at 3:22 PM, FreshFluff said:

I read that the samples expire in about 2 months. Might be a good time to start and see if it helps. 

 

On 9/21/2024 at 1:43 AM, samhexum said:

I checked and the pens have an expiration date of January 2026.

Just a quick note about "expiration".

Manufacturers do tests to analyze shelf longevity. No, they don't actually set some aside for 2 years and check it - new drugs come out far too fast for that. But the FDA grants the manufacturers a license to sell each batch they make. Technically, it is that license that is expiring on the given date.

Medication with an expiration date doesn't magically become useless/void the day after. 

On the opposite side, food doesn't have expiration dates. It has Best By dates. Sometimes, the date is manufacture date (often canned goods). If you find a food product with an actual Expiration Date, either there is some medical element, or the maker didn't know what they were doing.