Cost of hiring

[FewBricksShy]

I try to be accomdating when it comes to paying for guys and everything that goes along with it. It's not a cheap hobby, to be sure, and if you're too cheap, it'll just be a poor experience for all involved. But has anyone noticed as of late, perhaps because of inflation, that the expectations of us clients as far as costs have become a bit unreasonable. I was trying to set up an appointment with a guy. He gave me a quote, which was a little more than I wanted to spend, but okay. I'll go with it. He seemed likeable enough. I told him I'd cover his plane or train fare too, that I would need to factor that into things. I asked him then which he preferred. He preferred the plane, but ignores the price of the ticket. (haha) Well, I can't ignore the price of tickets. Then he asks me about getting a separate room at the hotel for our stay and I said I've never done that before. So he wants his fee, a plane ticket, regardless of the price, all expenses during our time together covered, AND a separate room? I understand wanting his time during an extended stay, but I don't feel a separate room is my responsibility. And if I'm buying the planet ticket -- well, he can ride economy class then. He seemed likeable enough, but now I'm not so keen on hiring after this money talk. Like I said, I try to be generous but I don't like feeling like I'm being used. Has anyone else noticed that it seems money talk is a lot less amicable than it used to be?

[+ azdr0710]

A perennial forum topic since early hooboy days. As many opinions as there are forum members. And almost as many threads on the subject. 

Stay in control of your finances and move on if you don't like something, including excessive requests and fees. 

[FewBricksShy]

I think I will be moving on. It sure can be easy to get taken advantage of if you’re not careful and have your mind set from the beginning! 

[+ jeezopete]

Have you thought about traveling to where he is? That way you're responsible for your travel fare, hotel room & expenses. Then you can hire him for as little or as long as you want to host him in your room. On the plus side, you'll end up saving money and get to explore a new area in your free time.

[FewBricksShy]

That’s a potential option.

Has anyone else been asked to pay for a separate room for multiple-day stays? That’s new for me. It seems to me the whole point is to stay in the same room. Him asking that makes feel like we have a communication breakdown. At least as far as expectations go.

[maninsoma]

Offer to reimburse him for his room (that way you won't be on the hook for damages/extra costs), and then tell him you will only be paying for one hour of his time per day since he obviously doesn't understand the concept of being hired for multiple days.  Sure, guys need time off to go to the gym, reply to emails, etc, but requesting that you pay for a separate room for him is beyond the pale when, presumably, you are paying a fair amount to be with him for multiple days.  He's either hoping you are a sucker and will go for it, or he simply isn't cut out for the type of escorting work where the escort and client actually spend time together just hanging out.

Actually, I am just joking.  I wouldn't offer to pay the guy's room at all.  I'd just move on.

Edited June 18, 2022 by maninsoma

[FewBricksShy]

1 hour ago, maninsoma said:

Actually, I am just joking.  I wouldn't offer to pay the guy's room at all.  I'd just move on.

That’s what I’m going to do. I was asking more of a followup if that’s something anyone here has encountered. I’ve paid an extra night for a guy after we spent multiple days together so he could have appointments, but never a separate room at the same time. As for going to him and seeing him when I want to and only paying for that…I *want* to spend the multiple days together. Another reason this particular situation isn’t going to work. 

[jtwalker]

Greedy Guys = Poor Experience in my experience.

Move on and find someone that is looking for a mutually beneficial engagement .  This behavior is a sure sign that he’s only interested in himself.

[HornyLatinBi]

1 hour ago, jtwalker said:

Greedy Guys = Poor Experience in my experience.

Move on and find someone that is looking for a mutually beneficial engagement .  This behavior is a sure sign that he’s only interested in himself.

"How generous can you be?" = next!!!!

[HoseMaster]

11 hours ago, FewBricksShy said:

I try to be accomdating when it comes to paying for guys and everything that goes along with it. It's not a cheap hobby, to be sure, and if you're too cheap, it'll just be a poor experience for all involved. But has anyone noticed as of late, perhaps because of inflation, that the expectations of us clients as far as costs have become a bit unreasonable. I was trying to set up an appointment with a guy. He gave me a quote, which was a little more than I wanted to spend, but okay. I'll go with it. He seemed likeable enough. I told him I'd cover his plane or train fare too, that I would need to factor that into things. I asked him then which he preferred. He preferred the plane, but ignores the price of the ticket. (haha) Well, I can't ignore the price of tickets. Then he asks me about getting a separate room at the hotel for our stay and I said I've never done that before. So he wants his fee, a plane ticket, regardless of the price, all expenses during our time together covered, AND a separate room? I understand wanting his time during an extended stay, but I don't feel a separate room is my responsibility. And if I'm buying the planet ticket -- well, he can ride economy class then. He seemed likeable enough, but now I'm not so keen on hiring after this money talk. Like I said, I try to be generous but I don't like feeling like I'm being used. Has anyone else noticed that it seems money talk is a lot less amicable than it used to be?

Fuck that.  Don’t do it.  You’re being taken advantage of.  I’ve done plenty of overnights and weekends over the past 17 years, and only one asked for me to get him a hotel room for “after the overnight”.  When I asked him “after the overnight?", he replied so he has somewhere to go and unwind after the overnight.  I told him, “the overnight is until morning, and then you go.  The only ‘after the overnight’ is when you leave in the morning, and that is no longer my responsibility.”  I never hired him.  There are plenty of others who will stay with you the entire time you hire them.  Move on from this guy.

Edited June 19, 2022 by HoseMaster

[kingsley88]

Is this the first time you're meeting him? 

[+ keroscenefire]

I wonder if he is misunderstanding this as like a sugarbaby sort of situation. But yeah I'd be clear that this is for your time together only. Anything beyond that is his responsibility to pay. 

[CalTec]

22 hours ago, jeezopete said:

Have you thought about traveling to where he is? That way you're responsible for your travel fare, hotel room & expenses. Then you can hire him for as little or as long as you want to host him in your room. On the plus side, you'll end up saving money and get to explore a new area in your free time.

This!!

I can't imagine being in a client's position, looking to jump in head first into an overnight situation with a provider who you've never met.  While spontaneity is great, it might bite you in the ass with a bad experience.  All my most memorable overnights started with a single appointment and grew out from there. My 0.2 satoshis would be not to rush an extended encounter before a first encounter.

Playing devil's advocate, perhaps the provider had a previous experience that didn't work out and is pre-emptively looking to mitigate any future issues.  Who knows!  Best way to know is to meet him and get an irl vibe so you know if he's genuine or looking to play you.

[BonVivant]

22 hours ago, FewBricksShy said:

That’s a potential option.

Has anyone else been asked to pay for a separate room for multiple-day stays? That’s new for me. It seems to me the whole point is to stay in the same room. Him asking that makes feel like we have a communication breakdown. At least as far as expectations go.

No. The separate room is a huge red flag. This means he is not “yours” for the time engaged. You are just the bank for his trip. He will then see you when he wants; will give you your one hour of play time; and then he’ll trick or trade in his separate room. You’ll be miserable. 
 

Walk away. Not worth it. 

[Luv2play]

23 hours ago, FewBricksShy said:

That’s a potential option.

Has anyone else been asked to pay for a separate room for multiple-day stays? That’s new for me. It seems to me the whole point is to stay in the same room. Him asking that makes feel like we have a communication breakdown. At least as far as expectations go.

I've played it both ways when escorts were coming from different countries to see me at a hotel. With one, we spent the two nights and three days together, one room, one bed. With the other he stayed in a separate room in the same hotel and we saw each other two evenings in a row for over 6 hours each time including dinner out at a nice restaurant.

With the former I paid for the plane ticket. With the latter he was on a world tour and just stopped to see me.

I guess each situation is unique. The one I paid the plane ticket for really wanted to see Montreal because after leaving me he went on to see friends that he stayed with in the city for the rest of the week.

[FewBricksShy]

@Calix_V2– I’ve always hired for overnights, never less, and the time was always fine. Sometimes for multiple days. “In and out” doesn’t do it for me. I don’t think you describe universal advice. 

[FewBricksShy]

@Luv2play– I think, from my feel, that @BonVivantis right. I get the vibe, as they say, this guy only sees me as a ticket to turn other tricks. I just was never so blatantly asked before, is all. I wondered if it reflected a change in escorting culture that others may have experienced too. It seems like it might be just this guy, though. Good to know. 

[Epigonos]

I have only done long get togethers with guy I know well. I have always enjoyed driving/flying to the city where an escorts I'm interested in seeing lives. I always stay for three or four days. We get together on my arrival day for dinner and a couple of hours of play time. I'm not a fan of overnights. I've slept alone all my life and for me, at least, I don't see the point of paying a guy to "sleep" with me. I like sleeping alone. Now if the first evening goes well and the guy is free we do the same thing the second evening. Usually the two evenings together end up costing approximately the same or a little more than one overnight. During the day I have time to do some sightseeing and relaxing.

[FewBricksShy]

@Epigonos– That wasn’t my point. I’m glad that works for you. I’ve only ever hired for overnights plus, and I have never had a guy try to milk me. What I was looking for here was if the landscape has changed or if this guy was looking to take advantage of me. It seems that guys here think he was looking to use me as his ticket to traveling. I doubt there was any consideration of getting to know me or compatibility or whatever. I was a possible meal ticket. Telling him I was no longer interested also got no response although there’s two checks in RM messenger.

[+ azdr0710]

[+ WilliamM]

12 hours ago, Epigonos said:

I have only done long get togethers with guy I know well. I have always enjoyed driving/flying to the city where an escorts I'm interested in seeing lives. I always stay for three or four days. We get together on my arrival day for dinner and a couple of hours of play time. I'm not a fan of overnights. I've slept alone all my life and for me, at least, I don't see the point of paying a guy to "sleep" with me. I like sleeping alone. Now if the first evening goes well and the guy is free we do the same thing the second evening. Usually the two evenings together end up costing approximately the same or a little more than one overnight. During the day I have time to do some sightseeing and relaxing.

One  knows someone a bit better if they sleep together.  And playtime is often better early in the morning.

[+ Tygerscent]

On 6/18/2022 at 9:31 AM, FewBricksShy said:

I try to be accomdating when it comes to paying for guys and everything that goes along with it. It's not a cheap hobby, to be sure, and if you're too cheap, it'll just be a poor experience for all involved. But has anyone noticed as of late, perhaps because of inflation, that the expectations of us clients as far as costs have become a bit unreasonable. I was trying to set up an appointment with a guy. He gave me a quote, which was a little more than I wanted to spend, but okay. I'll go with it. He seemed likeable enough. I told him I'd cover his plane or train fare too, that I would need to factor that into things. I asked him then which he preferred. He preferred the plane, but ignores the price of the ticket. (haha) Well, I can't ignore the price of tickets. Then he asks me about getting a separate room at the hotel for our stay and I said I've never done that before. So he wants his fee, a plane ticket, regardless of the price, all expenses during our time together covered, AND a separate room? I understand wanting his time during an extended stay, but I don't feel a separate room is my responsibility. And if I'm buying the planet ticket -- well, he can ride economy class then. He seemed likeable enough, but now I'm not so keen on hiring after this money talk. Like I said, I try to be generous but I don't like feeling like I'm being used. Has anyone else noticed that it seems money talk is a lot less amicable than it used to be?

Separate room~? Fuck that… you are hiring him to share time With you, not away from you. You can text each other and get naked photos for free… Rediculous… where is this person based… sounds kind of Floridian 

[+ nycman]

6 hours ago, Tygerscent said:

….where is this person based… sounds kind of Floridian 

And the 2022 CoM Award for “Best Shade" goes to…

[cany10011]

Sounds like the guy does not really want to travel to your city or want your business. 

[FewBricksShy]

1 hour ago, cany10011 said:

Sounds like the guy does not really want to travel to your city or want your business. 

Precisely.