Condom and bareback discrepancy

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

8 hours ago, HockeyMan said:

Providers only bb for clients who are attractive enough or good in bed.

I must be an attractive client and good in bed then 😉 

Edited October 25, 2024 by Vegas_Millennial

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

18 hours ago, HockeyMan said:

Providers only bb for clients who are attractive enough or good in bed.

I wouldn't say that.

As a bareback top, I fuck raw because it feels better and I can better control when and how I cum.

It's logistics (and pleasure) for me.

[pubic_assistance]

22 minutes ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

I fuck raw because it feels better

I seem to be the outlier here.

Everyone talks about how it feels so much better without a condom.

Are you guys slapping on a garbage bag or something 🤔? Outside of the annoying 20 seconds it takes to open a condom wrapper and place it on my cock...the sensation difference is SO miniscule to me I see ABSOLUTELY NO reason to choose risk of spreading  contagious diseases.

I think it's all mental if you think it's that different.

 

[+ Jamie21]

41 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

I seem to be the outlier here.

Everyone talks about how it feels so much better without a condom.

Are you guys slapping on a garbage bag or something 🤔? Outside of the annoying 20 seconds it takes to open a condom wrapper and place it on my cock...the sensation difference is SO miniscule to me I see ABSOLUTELY NO reason to choose risk of spreading  contagious diseases.

I think it's all mental if you think it's that different.

 

I think you may be an outlier. It feels different to me. It’s also really annoying in the moment to try and open the condom with oily or lubed up hands (I know this is a first world annoyance but still….it kills the mood). Plus many bottoms like the load in them…which actually I find kind of difficult but that’s a different discussion! 
Also…isn’t all sex mental? If it’s just a physical act you’re missing something. It happens in the head. The brain is the sex organ - that’s where it all happens and where you focus if you’re really wanting to get it on with someone, not their cock or ass. Bareback sex is elemental, it’s in the head. 

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

51 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

I seem to be the outlier here.

Everyone talks about how it feels so much better without a condom.

Are you guys slapping on a garbage bag or something 🤔? Outside of the annoying 20 seconds it takes to open a condom wrapper and place it on my cock...the sensation difference is SO miniscule to me I see ABSOLUTELY NO reason to choose risk of spreading  contagious diseases.

I think it's all mental if you think it's that different.

 

First, this isn't the place to judge someone's sexual tastes.  You do you.  I do me.

If I've been able to avoid STDs for the better part of 20 years, I think I'm doing what's best for me.

[marylander1940]

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

I seem to be the outlier here.

Everyone talks about how it feels so much better without a condom.

Are you guys slapping on a garbage bag or something 🤔? Outside of the annoying 20 seconds it takes to open a condom wrapper and place it on my cock...the sensation difference is SO miniscule to me I see ABSOLUTELY NO reason to choose risk of spreading  contagious diseases.

I think it's all mental if you think it's that different.

 

Yes you're the outlier on here

I never played the Russian roulette of BB before PrEP but I must tell you it feels way better, and it's also easier for the escort to keep it hard if he's not wearing a condom.

[+ Jamie21]

Maybe I misread it but I didn’t feel it was really judgmental (but then I’m thick skinned, I don’t care if anyone judges me!). I like the range of opinions on here. Some people focus on extreme safety some much more open to risk. Who knows what someone’s background is that leads them to their position. If they express it as judgmental on others then I think that says more about them than the person they’re judging. 

[+ ApexNomad]

42 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

Maybe I misread it but I didn’t feel it was really judgmental (but then I’m thick skinned, I don’t care if anyone judges me!). I like the range of opinions on here. Some people focus on extreme safety some much more open to risk. Who knows what someone’s background is that leads them to their position. If they express it as judgmental on others then I think that says more about them than the person they’re judging. 

Not sure which reply you’re referring to, but just to clarify, my response to you was aimed at understanding your perspective, especially as someone speaking as a prospective client who occasionally visits your side of the pond. Thanks for clarifying—now I know where you stand. 

[+ Jamie21]

17 minutes ago, ApexNomad said:

Not sure which reply you’re referring to, but just to clarify, my response to you was aimed at understanding your perspective, especially as someone speaking as a prospective client who occasionally visits your side of the pond. Thanks for clarifying—now I know where you stand. 

Good! It’s important when hiring that things are clear. I wasn’t thinking your reply (or any reply) was judgmental.

My stance on BB is fairly academic anyway because almost all my work is sensual/erotic massage so I don’t offer to top or bottom as part of that service. Sometimes it happens of course but never as an expectation. 

[HockeyMan]

2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Everyone talks about how it feels so much better without a condom.

Are you guys slapping on a garbage bag or something 🤔? Outside of the annoying 20 seconds it takes to open a condom wrapper and place it on my cock...the sensation difference is SO miniscule to me I see ABSOLUTELY NO reason to choose risk of spreading  contagious diseases.

Part of it is using condoms wrong. They feel a lot worse when used improperly.  I buy comfortably fitting condoms and know how to put them on well. But I still think bb feels better as a top. And I don't like latex as a condom material.

[pubic_assistance]

2 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

It’s also really annoying in the moment to try and open the condom with oily or lubed up hands

Why would you lube up BEFORE you put on a condom ? 🤔 

Sounds like you never bothered with condoms.

I was a teenager in the middle of the AIDS crisis ...so I didn't have a choice.

I was also sexually active with girls...so I additionally wanted to make sure any "family planning" was in MY hands, not just hers.

Edited October 25, 2024 by pubic_assistance
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[+ Jamie21]

20 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Why would you lube up BEFORE you put on a condom ? 🤔 

I’m cut, some clients are too. If playing with a cut cock you do need a bit of lube sometimes. 

[LookingAround]

3 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

I seem to be the outlier here.

Everyone talks about how it feels so much better without a condom.

Are you guys slapping on a garbage bag or something 🤔? Outside of the annoying 20 seconds it takes to open a condom wrapper and place it on my cock...the sensation difference is SO miniscule to me I see ABSOLUTELY NO reason to choose risk of spreading  contagious diseases.

I think it's all mental if you think it's that different.

 

Yes you're the outlier. 

[pubic_assistance]

3 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

First, this isn't the place to judge someone's sexual tastes. 

I am not judging anyone's sexual tastes.

I am curiously asking WHY people are so opposed to condoms.

There's a big difference.

 

[pubic_assistance]

1 hour ago, Jamie21 said:

I’m cut, some clients are too. If playing with a cut cock you do need a bit of lube sometimes. 

I'm completely lost. Sorry. Maybe the others "get" that comment...but I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm circumcised too. ( 1970's American baby )

[MikeBiDude]

1 hour ago, Jamie21 said:

I’m cut, some clients are too. If playing with a cut cock you do need a bit of lube sometimes. 

I’ve seen instructions on some condom brands recommending a drop or two of lube inside prior to putting on.

[pubic_assistance]

9 minutes ago, MikeBiDude said:

I’ve seen instructions on some condom brands recommending a drop or two of lube inside prior to putting on.

You learn something new every day here.

🤣

In all my years, I've never heard of that...nor do I even understand WHY I would WANT to do that !

[marylander1940]

19 minutes ago, MikeBiDude said:

I’ve seen instructions on some condom brands recommending a drop or two of lube inside prior to putting on.

Yes, to avoid friction. I used spit in most cases, now I don't wear condoms at all. 

Is certainly a good idea for uncut guys to do it, remove the foreskin, lubricate the head of the penis and place the condom after.

 

[+ Jamie21]

54 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

I'm completely lost. Sorry. Maybe the others "get" that comment...but I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm circumcised too. ( 1970's American baby )

Oh well I must be doing it wrong then. All these years and over 1000 clients and now I learn I’ve been doing it wrong 😬. 

[pubic_assistance]

15 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

All these years and over 1000 clients and now I learn I’ve been doing it wrong

I'm sure I've far surpassed 1000 people by now...just asking a question. Not saying there's a right or wrong.

I just don't understand what being circumcised has to do with lube.

I've never used lubricant except when I fuck.

Enlighten me.

[+ Jamie21]

2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

I'm sure I've far surpassed 1000 people by now...just asking a question. Not saying there's a right or wrong.

I just don't understand what being circumcised has to do with lube.

I've never used lubricant except when I fuck.

Enlighten me.

I agree with you. 

[pubic_assistance]

1 hour ago, Jamie21 said:

3 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Enlighten me.

I agree with you. 

I don't feel enlightened.

I expected a professional experience revelation.

[misterhumphries]

On 10/24/2024 at 3:21 AM, Jamie21 said:

I know Prep doesn’t protect me against other sexually transmitted infections (by the way…STI is the term used now). I understand the risks and make a personal decision (as with anything). People should be able to take informed choices about this. I choose not to use condoms when I top (and if the person I’m with doesn’t choose that then we don’t go ahead). It’s always got to be a personal choice. 

 

FWIW (see? I know the jargon. I choose not to use it), I also know STDs are now STIs -- a rose by any other name, etc.

As for condoms, in my experience, the men I've been with seem to wait for me to draw the line and insist on condom usage. I have gotten only one balk at wearing a condom -- and he later relented because he wanted me to fuck him. It could be a case of each party waiting to see how the other will react if and when condoms are mentioned.

As for the comparisons about drinking alcohol, it's a faulty analogy. An alcoholic or drug addict ruins only his internal organs and compromises the quality of only his life.  But when one engages in risky sexual behavior, it affects unsuspecting others who may not have agreed to engage in the previous risky behavior.

[misterhumphries]

12 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

First, this isn't the place to judge someone's sexual tastes.  You do you.  I do me.

If I've been able to avoid STDs for the better part of 20 years, I think I'm doing what's best for me.

This you do you, I do me mindset is why STDs such as HIV continue to spread at the rate it does, despite all we know -- after more than 30 years -- of how to avoid it. Some men still delude themselves that the sexual choices they make don't affect other men. The fact is none of us lives in a sexual vacuum. Gay circles are a lot smaller than we think.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

8 minutes ago, misterhumphries said:

This you do you, I do me mindset is why STDs such as HIV continue to spread at the rate it does, despite all we know -- after more than 30 years -- of how to avoid it. Some men still delude themselves that the sexual choices they make don't affect other men. The fact is none of us lives in a sexual vacuum. Gay circles are a lot smaller than we think.

The spread of STDs is entirely dependent on people not being aware of their status.

I am responsible and fully aware.

Condoms are no longer the only answer.  Live in the now.  This isn't 1984.