I have decided…

[xyz48B]

For me..

No provider can provide me a service that is worth $2000/night. Especially “for time.”

Who else here makes $2000 for 8 hours of work, of which some of it’s sleeping, potentially?

Unless it’s someone who I’ve booked before and knows me, and they probably already sort of enjoy our time together. And they give a break. 
 

I would potentially consider at this point $1500/ON for a porn star. Nothing more than $1200 for someone who’s not. I’m going to start saying no. But for an overnight, my limit is $1500…

Comment? Thoughts?

[+ harey]

Hi there. It’s completely valid for you to have that limit. However, a provider may charge more for an overnight, and that’s also perfectly fine.  Supply and demand, inflation, regional price differences, etc. 
 

Are you really asking if ANY overnight experience could be worth $2,000 or more?  My answer would be - heck yes. From my perspective, some providers are definitely worth that rate for an extended meeting. 

[+ StLouisOct]

It’s all personal preference combined with financial ability. Not too complicated really.

[Leyte2019]

2 hours ago, xyz48B said:

For me..

No provider can provide me a service that is worth $2000/night. Especially “for time.”

Who else here makes $2000 for 8 hours of work, of which some of it’s sleeping, potentially?

Unless it’s someone who I’ve booked before and knows me, and they probably already sort of enjoy our time together. And they give a break. 
 

I would potentially consider at this point $1500/ON for a porn star. Nothing more than $1200 for someone who’s not. I’m going to start saying no. But for an overnight, my limit is $1500…

Comment? Thoughts?

Very much agree. But it would be nice if I were in a position to pay a bit more.

Edited January 16, 2022 by Leyte2019

[xyz48B]

4 minutes ago, StLouisOct said:

It’s all personal preference combined with financial ability. Not too complicated really.

The thing is…

I could pay $2000/ON. I don’t want to. Because when I calculate, $2000/8hrs comes to $250/hr. Some lawyers don’t make that…

[xyz48B]

1 minute ago, Leyte2019 said:

Very much agree. But it would be nice if I had were in a position to pay a bit more.

Definitely…

It reminds me of the study some time ago that determines that at around $70k/year, net happiness doesn’t increase. I wouldn’t know, though. But I’d like to give it a whirl! 😂 

[MikeBiDude]

9 minutes ago, xyz48B said:

$250/hr. Some lawyers don’t make that…

Come on……

[xyz48B]

Just now, MikeBiDude said:

Come on……

🙄 

Is escorting really that incomparable to other service jobs? I grow fucking weary of people on this forum who say that we can’t compare escorts to other jobs. Yes. Yes, we can. If it’s work, it can be compared to other work.

Escorts provide a particular service. They can be (and I might argue, should be) compared, at from a compensation perspective, to other service providers with like levels of education and expertise. The fact that the work is illegal might make it worth a bit more, for the risk, but that doesn’t make it worth that much more. 

[Merboy]

I'd pay top dollar if there were just top dollar guys.  The selection on RM is not very good.  Where are the fitness models with strong reputations and reliable explosions of cum?  Where are the celebrity guys that were so common to see but have disappeared to squeeze money out of OnlyFans members?  The industry itself is in a collapse.  The world is changing.  This isn't worth it anymore for both consumers and providers... and we're in a f-ing Plague - and hand on hand body on body interactions are a risk... so I'd say many have probably left this world behind at least for now.  its still the world's oldest profession and the number of lonely, horny, sad people just seems to increase with time.  Eventually the industry will reinvent itself.

[mike carey]

39 minutes ago, xyz48B said:

The thing is…

I could pay $2000/ON. I don’t want to. Because when I calculate, $2000/8hrs comes to $250/hr. Some lawyers don’t make that…

You assume that an overnight is eight hours, but I'm not sure how commonly that is the case. I'm sure it is for some. My first overnight was in LA (I wrote about it here at the time) and was $1800. It went from 7pm to 10am (the last hour and a half at breakfast). If he were still working I would probably pay his rate again. I would probably not pay the AUD equivalent for an overnight now in this country, it's not easy to look past the number of dollars. AUD 2500  sounds more than USD 2000 even though I know it's not. (Also the local currency dollar numbers in the going rates seem to be similar in the two markets, maybe slightly higher here recently.)

[+ tassojunior]

Not sure about South America, but in most sex tourist parts of Europe overnights are much less a multiple of the hourly rate. 1000 is pretty much tops for the best guys in Prague I know, including many porn stars. 

I like sleeping alone so I always offer a hour date at night and one early the next day and if the guy wants to sleep at my hotel that's usually fine. 1/2 time they do. 

You may consider traveling to places where overnights are  much less. (the guys are usually better too). 

[+ Tygerscent]

4 hours ago, xyz48B said:

🙄

Is escorting really that incomparable to other service jobs? I grow fucking weary of people on this forum who say that we can’t compare escorts to other jobs. Yes. Yes, we can. If it’s work, it can be compared to other work.

Escorts provide a particular service. They can be (and I might argue, should be) compared, at from a compensation perspective, to other service providers with like levels of education and expertise. The fact that the work is illegal might make it worth a bit more, for the risk, but that doesn’t make it worth that much more. 

Yes… actually it is very different from any other job and the scope of skills required is complex and many~ It’s not just about beating the sheets~ Keep in mind: no pension plan or retirement plans offered, no group health insurance coverage, paid sick leave, there is high non recoverable overhead, no workman’s Comp… no raises, etc~

 Escorting Providers provides an extensive array of services~ Those who are strictly sex workers provided their own set of services~ 

 Consider that different people provide different services and the needs of their Clients are vast and varied~ 
 
 While Prostitution is illegal in many parts of the states, Escorting is not… neither is being a model in adult pornography~ Each of these are different services~ 
 

 It’s naive to make an assumption that what Providers provide in the adult services industry is simply, exclusively  “sex”~ 

Edited January 16, 2022 by Tygerscent

[Luv2play]

A person I knew decades ago and is long since dead, owned a cosmetics firm and would often say what his company sold was not a product but the notion of romance. For me escorting is the same. I'm looking for romance which involves a suspension of disbelief in a date with someone who will give me the boyfriend experience without any of the entanglements of an actual boyfriend. Of course on a physical level I want the experience to be gratifying as well. For all of that I am willing to pay.

Edited January 16, 2022 by Luv2play

[guru68]

I would say that any rate which was worth it to a client is worth it to them. For the providers who have premium rates and can sustain that, then clearly they are worth that rate (if not more) to their clients.

More power (and orgasms) to them.

 

 

[+ Tygerscent]

3 hours ago, mike carey said:

You assume that an overnight is eight hours, but I'm not sure how commonly that is the case. I'm sure it is for some. My first overnight was in LA (I wrote about it here at the time) and was $1800. It went from 7pm to 10am (the last hour and a half at breakfast). If he were still working I would probably pay his rate again. I would probably not pay the AUD equivalent for an overnight now in this country, it's not easy to look past the number of dollars. AUD 2500  sounds more than USD 2000 even though I know it's not. (Also the local currency dollar numbers in the going rates seem to be similar in the two markets, maybe slightly higher here recently.)

Good point regarding the length of time for an overnight~ Mine is roughly 14 to 16 hours~ My full day is 24 to 26ish hours~ 

 Where was this quoted $2k/8hrs~? I’ve heard about rates like that. mainly in Florida… 

[xyz48B]

5 hours ago, guru68 said:

I would say that any rate which was worth it to a client is worth it to them. For the providers who have premium rates and can sustain that, then clearly they are worth that rate (if not more) to their clients.

More power (and orgasms) to them.

 

 

That’s the supply and demand. 

[xyz48B]

7 hours ago, harey said:

Hi there. It’s completely valid for you to have that limit. However, a provider may charge more for an overnight, and that’s also perfectly fine.  Supply and demand, inflation, regional price differences, etc. 
 

Are you really asking if ANY overnight experience could be worth $2,000 or more?  My answer would be - heck yes. From my perspective, some providers are definitely worth that rate for an extended meeting. 

Extended meeting, yes. I’ve paid well over $2000 for extended meetings. But not for overnights.

[guru68]

12 minutes ago, xyz48B said:

That’s the supply and demand. 

Exactly. So people willing to pay that premium will agree to disagree. I'm not sure what you're looking for here. If you want other people to discuss what their personal top end payments might be, then maybe you should ask for that.

Edited January 16, 2022 by guru68

[xyz48B]

@guru68– a general discussion about rates. It seems it’s a hairy subject.

I’ve hired top talent before and paid the premium. My experience was it was dissatisfying. 

[Guest Looking4MuscleInSD]

My own experiences with overnights (they always cost $2000) is that they were not worth it. Every provider I’ve seen for an overnight had strict rules. Sex once when they arrived and then sex once more just before they left in the morning. That was it.  I was mostly paying them to sleep at my home. No thanks. Instead, I’ll just hire a guy I like several days in a row for an hour each day ($300 a pop) and still pay less than I’d pay for an overnight. Overnights are over-rated in my experience. 

[cany10011]

7 hours ago, xyz48B said:

🙄

Is escorting really that incomparable to other service jobs? I grow fucking weary of people on this forum who say that we can’t compare escorts to other jobs. Yes. Yes, we can. If it’s work, it can be compared to other work.

Escorts provide a particular service. They can be (and I might argue, should be) compared, at from a compensation perspective, to other service providers with like levels of education and expertise. The fact that the work is illegal might make it worth a bit more, for the risk, but that doesn’t make it worth that much more. 

 

I agree with you that 2000 an overnight is a lot to pay for someone to sleep next to you. Unless, it’s someomne I really like or enjoy outside the bedroom, I rarely do overnights and rather just save the annoyance of having to adjust to someone‘s sleeping and waking habits, and hire for a few hours.  

I regard playing with escorts  more as a hobby like antique collecting. For which desirability is the driving factor. Ask yourself how desirable is the experience? Does gazing at/playing with him make you happy? In that case, in my mind, payment is for something that will enhance my enjoyment and pleasure, for which there really is a different budget than “paying” for someone to do his job. 

 

 

[+ Pensant]

8 hours ago, xyz48B said:

Some lawyers don’t make that…

Mine do.

[+ Pensant]

53 minutes ago, Looking4MuscleInSD said:

My own experiences with overnights (they always cost $2000) is that they were not worth it. Every provider I’ve seen for an overnight had strict rules. Sex once when they arrived and then sex once more just before they left in the morning. That was it.  I was mostly paying them to sleep at my home. No thanks. Instead, I’ll just hire a guy I like several days in a row for an hour each day ($300 a pop) and still pay less than I’d pay for an overnight. Overnights are over-rated in my experience. 

I tend to agree. I just did an overnight with a “porn star”, which violated my rule of a two hour session first, and it was fine but not overwhelming. I often do weekends with long-time regulars, but we’re talking $1,800 to $2,000 for two full days and nights and full satisfaction. No more overnights with newbies.

[johnh23]

This is good to know. I was wondering if overnights are worth it on a limited budget.

[builder boy]

Agreed