Will you pay a deposit to a stranger?

[HoleTrainer]

1 hour ago, coriolis888 said:

Providers insisting on an advance deposit have a lot of:

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6 minutes ago, coriolis888 said:

You do not know anything about me nor of my attitude toward sex workers. 

[HoleTrainer]

Your attitude toward sex workers is clear in the post quoted above.  Nothing to add since you seem to be in denial about it.  Best of luck to you as well.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

[+ DrownedBoy]

Gave out 2 deposits, one of them to a regular I had known for 2 years.

Bye bye money.

So....hell no.

[coriolis888]

1 hour ago, HoleTrainer said:

 

You are very sad. 

The fact that I think sex workers who insist on an advance deposit have a lot of nerve does not mean that I know anything else about the escort. 

You might look up the word - conjecture - which is a trait you have for composing the majority of your posts.  

How does one logically "connect the dots" from an unusual demand for a deposit, to knowing about sex workers in general?  

 

[josh282282]

Dear HoleTrainer,

Ok, ok, you

CONVINCED me.

You're completely insane.

[maninsoma]

Dear HoleTrainer:

I also live in San Francisco.  I have hired a couple of plumbers and paid both when the job was finished.  I hired a couple of handymen; paid both when work was finished.  I have hired many, many masseurs over the period of 30+ years and never paid a deposit.  I do pay for medical services when I arrive for my appointments, but I don't have to send money before I even arrive.  You seem to be confusing sending money to an unknown person before even meeting with paying upon arrival.  A lot of people don't even want to pay upon arrival, but that request is at least in the ballpark of reasonability.  Your argument is that people should also be willing to just look for a plumber on Craigslist and then send money to someone they found there without any knowledge whether that person will show up and have the skills required to do the job.  That's just silly, but if you want to keep arguing that it's reasonable for people to send money to strangers in the hopes that person is not a scammer and then just be okay if they lose money here and there because it's the equivalent of spending money on restaurant food and not liking it then go ahead. I don't see how being disappointed in what was provided for the money is the equivalent of getting nothing for one's money.

I would suggest that you step away from the keyboard, at least from this thread.  This is a perfect example of a provider shooting himself in the foot because he has a strong opinion about something and won't just let the argument die.  I don't think your argumentative stance in this thread will win you any new clients and it very well might drive others away under the assumption that you aren't a reliable provider at best and perhaps someone who views his clients with contempt.

[+ RJD]

18 hours ago, DustyX said:

If I pay a deposit to a plumber or surgeon and he doesn’t show up, typically I know where to find him to settle up. You can’t do that with someone who doesn’t use their real name and whose only address is a RM ad. 

To quote Thomas Tusser:

"A fool and his money are soon parted."

 

[Fartricky89]

No. 
 

Both times I paid a deposit up front, I was burnt. The escort never showed up in either case. 
 

I have offered to pay for travel for an escort. I have also Venmoed money for the escort to purchase some article of clothing or some such prior to a meet. Those in my opinion serve to show my goodwill. But it’s me offering – not him demanding up front. 

[HoseMaster]

I reached out to Metrix (https://rent.men/Metrix) of Houston yesterday, as his pictures appealed to me.  Asked what his overnight rate and weekend rate were.  Told him I would fly him out to Los Angeles to see me, which he was excited for.  His rates were reasonable and agreeable to me, but then he came back with this:

Yes of course for the safety of both that is fine I have no problem, something I do when I travel for someone is that I ask for a part of the money in this case you would have to send me $ 1000 in advance plus the ticket for me to also make sure that everything is Real, you know that this lends itself a lot to people who only do is bother once someone travels and never showed up. trouble

 

So I retorted I don’t do deposits, and that me buying him a round trip ticket was his deposit.  Then he responded:

I understand you but who understands me? With at least $ 500 I just need to make sure with something I will not travel without having something certain that in that case something happens I already have a way to resolve to return if we are going to meet we have to start to have a little more confidence I am here because I really need the money I even live in Mexico but I came here specifically for this

 

I again said, I don’t do deposits.  I’m already buying a complete stranger a plane ticket.  Why would I send a complete stranger more money beyond the plane ticket?  He responded:

Yes, I understand you, but I also want security and trust, not all of us are the same, believe me, I am a serious person and if I commit to you, I will fulfill that, be sure.  How I told you once I happened I left and the person never appeared of course the block I never knew what happened but he left me embarked at the moment, I promise you that if I am going to go but let's do so, I only ask for at least $ 500, you think I'm going to prefer $ 500 for everything else and to know Los Angeles😐

 

Please!  Someone please tell me.  Where does sending him a deposit give him safety, security, and trust?  I’m already going out in a limb and trusting he’ll get on a plane ticket I buy him.  I smell “scam” written all over this one!

 

Edited July 2, 2021 by ffdave

[coriolis888]

5 hours ago, ffdave said:

 

Please!  Someone please tell me.  Where does sending him a deposit give him safety, security, and trust?  I’m already going out in a limb and trusting he’ll get on a plane ticket I buy him.  I smell “scam” written all over this one!

 

Giving a deposit does not give him safety. 

On a related note, he has an extensive instagram account. 

If you also have an instagram account, you will be able to open the below link and find his name and numerous other photos of him, including the photos in his ad.

Here is a link to his account:

EDIT:

I should have been more clear and written - Here is a link to his FAKE name account he has on instagram.  The name on that account is not his real name but the photos are accurate.    

The link was deleted by a moderator.  

 

 

 

Edited July 2, 2021 by coriolis888
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[+ RJD]

34 minutes ago, ffdave said:

Please!  Someone please tell me.  Where does sending him a deposit give him safety, security, and trust?  I’m already going out in a limb and trusting he’ll get on a plane ticket I buy him.  I smell “scam” written all over this one!

 

 

Run Forrest, run!!! 

[coriolis888]

Speaking of getting money in advance:

 

[Islesguy]

On 6/30/2021 at 3:14 PM, HoleTrainer said:

Do you feel the same way when your surgeon, masseuse, gym trainer, or any other professional out there who bills on a per-session basis requires a deposit?  Or is this a special business standard that you reserve exclusively for sex workers?

Requiring a deposit has nothing to do with assuming that a client is a scammer and everything to do with assuming that things come up and people choose not to honor their commitments, as does every single other business out there who requires customers to pay a deposit or honor a cancellation policy.

You should *absolutely* learn from clients who are scammed out of deposits by learning to do your research better and sticking to well established escorts who won’t scam you, who you can verify thru their online presence on multiple websites including this forum and their social media.  Not by saying that no escort is trustworthy enough for a deposit because some people somewhere got scammed.

As mentioned earlier in this same thread, I don’t require deposits for most meetings.  But I would consider it a strike against anyone and would likely not meet them if they directly expressed that they will never pay a deposit to an escort.  It’s just plain disrespectful in a world where most independent business professionals who work on a per session basis have deposit requirements or cancellation policies.

No service based business I have ever used has required an upfront deposit especially medical professionals. I was an employee of a service business that charged on a per session basis and they did not require a deposit nor does a family member who owns such a business. This blanket notion that everyone running one of these businesses requires upfront deposits or full fee paid before services are rendered is utter nonsense.

People are free to do what they want with their businesses. Unless I am seriously dying to hire a particular escort, any upfront payments, deposits or otherwise, are strictly a no from me. The closest I got to that was a guy who wanted me to put his money in an envelope inside the hotel binder in the room before he arrived at the room. He didn't take the money until after the session but did leave a half hour early. I was pissed I paid for two hours and didn't get the full time.

[coriolis888]

On 7/2/2021 at 10:20 PM, Islesguy said:

No service based business I have ever used has required an upfront deposit especially medical professionals. I was an employee of a service business that charged on a per session basis and they did not require a deposit nor does a family member who owns such a business. This blanket notion that everyone running one of these businesses requires upfront deposits or full fee paid before services are rendered is utter nonsense.

 

[Luv2play]

I've never paid a deposit to a provider in my many years of hiring and never paid up front before getting down to business 

What I have been asked a few times with new providers is to show them the money, usually since I hire for multiple hours in most cases, not just one hour. 

The ones who know me know that there will be an envelop stuffed with 100s at the breakfast table. When I have had a first time provider for two nights, I pay them each morning of the weekend. That gives them some $$ if they want to get something for themselves when we are out and about.

I've never had a problem with money and my providers because I always try to put myself in their shoes. We clients are generally financially secure whereas providers, especially those who haven't had the opportunity to save and put something aside, do worry about being able to pay the rent and their bills every month.

[lonely_john]

[+ azdr0710]

91 posts.....91 opinions

looking forward to the "should I pay a deposit?" thread coming in 2022!....yay!

[+ Reisr30]

I’ve never paid a deposit but I have bought  a companion’s plane ticket if I am flying them to a location.  Would that be considered a deposit?

[HoseMaster]

On 7/14/2021 at 3:27 AM, Reisr30 said:

I’ve never paid a deposit but I have bought  a companion’s plane ticket if I am flying them to a location.  Would that be considered a deposit?

I consider it to be, as I’ve done it numerous times.

Edited July 17, 2021 by ffdave

[Smurof]

No, never. I can't believe that porn star Austin L. Young was supposedly swindled by a man last week who sent him a deposit, but then left him high and dry far from home. He was nearly in tears on twitter. Is his incident genuinely terrible, or is he "acting" for sympathy hires, I don't know. 

I get PMed from a forum member constantly wanting me to Venmo him a gift. I asked him where my 50th birthday present was, and haven't heard from him since! I'm sure it got caught up in Nigerian customs....