Is it just me?

[+ azdr0710]

• No Xylophilia!
  

 

did have to look this up!

[Enronnja]

Remember, these guys are doing multiple platforms. I just came across this geeky looking handsome JFK Jr clone. He spent 36 mins in the comfort of his own home making over 1,000 dollars in tips jerking off and thanking his followers on Chaturbate.

 

https://www.myvidster.com/video/223464816/Dcrocket88_Verbal_Hairy_Guy_Shoots_A_Big_Load_With_A_Hot_Moan

 

Yes, not everybody on Just for Fans and Only Fans are gonna be successful, just as not everyone who does porn or escorts is gonna be successful. But it sure is successful enough that almost all porn actors and even escorts I have hired do it and primarily promote it. Before that, most porn actors supplemented income through escorting.

 

The key is, if you look good; like that Venezuelan or the guy I linked from Chaturbate, you could easily make decent six figures out of it. If this guy only does 10 shows a month and makes over 1,200 dollars, thats 12,000 per month, amounting to 144,000 per year. If you go more conservative, you could easily see how easily 100,000 could be made. Even if you have to report income, its a nice chunk of change left over just for 36 mins of work, maybe a few times per week. You are not not at the mercy of a director telling you what angle, deliver the money shot, do the same scene for hours, more privacy (relatively) and most importantly, that ‘ugly’ client is not touching you.

 

Further motivating factors: you are your own boss, less stress, buy good food, pay for $10 per month Planet Fitness membership or home gym. If you are smart on top of it, you are investing your savings, earning compound interest on top of it.

 

So, it goes back to my point about, good looking escorts, who once would brave it to do escorting, don’t necessarily need it anymore because of the new opportunities to earn an income thats within their control. A lot of them are using it as leverage against the porn studios and the industry too. Its just like other industries: Uber upended taxis, the iPhone replaces so many things in our lives.

[Gymowner]

To make $1000 from chaturbate, one has to collect 20000 tokens. All cammers get $.05 per token when they cash out. That is RARELY done in gay chatrooms. To do it in 36 minutes?

 

Are you sure he didnt have 1000 tokens? That is $50 dollars to the cammer. Much more acceptable.

[Monarchy79]

A guy I follow on Twitter who is from Venezuela posted his income for the year back in December thanking his fans for their support, it was something like 86,000 in earnings.

 

Check out Reno Gold,

 

This dude makes hundreds of thousands of $$$ annually, and probably has never had actually sex with anyone (escorting), a day in his life.

 

[+ JEC]

I've lived in San Francisco 40 years and the quality of good-looking, muscled escorts is near extinct. I go on Rentmen, for example, and am astonished at what I consider the lack of quality of escorts. I know, to each his own, but where have all the beautiful men gone? (Don't tell me: Palm Springs!)

Guys can make a lot more money by setting up a Fans page. All they have to do is fuck other hot guys, upload the video and make some serious bank. Beats sleeping with old men for $300.

[+ Pensant]

This OF phenomenon is really interesting and impressive.

[Pepper Young]

I've noticed the decline in escort quality too. OF certainly has something to do with it. Why bother putting up with flakes and idiots, when you can just post of video of yourself jacking off and watch the money roll in? Reno Gold is a good example of this phenomenon. Personally, I wouldn't give anyone on OF a dime. I'm after an in-person experience. If I wanted porn (and I do), I can get it for free on Porn Hub. So technology kills off another industry. Street walking gave way to the internet "dating" sites, now they are giving way to virtual "dating" sites. One day a whole generation of gay guys won't know the pleasure of another man's skin against their own.

[Quincy_7]

I used to also be concerned about Onlyfans driving boys away from escorting but not so much anymore. Escorting provides a degree of anonymity which one doesn't have if they are posting videos on onlyfans.

[Studsearcher]

I used to also be concerned about Onlyfans driving boys away from escorting but not so much anymore. Escorting provides a degree of anonymity which one doesn't have if they are posting videos on onlyfans.

I agree. I’ve never been into porn workers myself and I still find hot, quality guys who prefer the anonymity offered by other means such as seeking, grindr and Craigslist (RIP). The public porn lifestyle isn’t attractive to most. Once it’s on the internet it’s there forever.

 

It also seems to me that the very successful ones are the exception not the rule. Most seem to be teaser/scammers constantly looking for the next one-month subscriber victim. Whenever I’m interested in an OF page I look it up on the LPSG site, and almost every time posters complain about the lack of quality content.

[+ Coolwave35]

[uSER=19448]@Joshua Mann[/uSER]

[Enronnja]

Remember OnlyFans is a phenomenon that started in the last 5 years. RM has been around longer, but I’m sure before RM there were ads in back pages too. Those eventually got succeeded. An escort I met last constantly was pushing me to go check out his OF for more exclusive content.

 

I certainly agree, this won’t replace body contact. But does the escort care and do the new generation of target users who grew up only knowing the iPhone, iPad care? Nope!

 

That is the problem, within 10 to 20 years, this might not actually exist. If it still does, it will shift the power balance. Instead, escorts will choose who they want as clients and not the other way around.

[Enronnja]

To make $1000 from chaturbate, one has to collect 20000 tokens. All cammers get $.05 per token when they cash out. That is RARELY done in gay chatrooms. To do it in 36 minutes?

 

Are you sure he didnt have 1000 tokens? That is $50 dollars to the cammer. Much more acceptable.

He said during the video, are gonna help bring me over 1,000? I don’t think he’s really gonna do that just for $20

[marylander1940]

I used to also be concerned about Onlyfans driving boys away from escorting but not so much anymore. Escorting provides a degree of anonymity which one doesn't have if they are posting videos on onlyfans.

 

Good point but usually pornstars are the ones to get famous first and go to Onlyfans.com to own their porno. Some of them have given up on escorting because they make more money and have fun with better looking guys doing onlyfans.com.

 

Of course they might still be available for selectively escorting with those who are big spenders or in shape.

[Quincy_7]

Good point but usually pornstars are the ones to get famous first and go to Onlyfans.com to own their porno. Some of them have given up on escorting because they make more money and have fun with better looking guys doing onlyfans.com.

 

Of course they might still be available for selectively escorting with those who are big spenders or in shape.

 

Most of us aren't seriously considering hiring porn stars. I was speaking about regular guys who comprise the vast majority of the escort population.

[marylander1940]

Most of us aren't seriously considering hiring porn stars. I was speaking about regular guys who comprise the vast majority of the escort population.

 

Most of us hire what we like based on looks, what they do, price, location, availiability, etc. Some they do porno, and most of the times they don't do porno.

 

You're raising a good question. How many escorts who advertise on RM do porno and what's the percentage of pornstars who escort?

[Enronnja]

Most of us aren't seriously considering hiring porn stars. I was speaking about regular guys who comprise the vast majority of the escort population.

 

That's the problem, even those who aren't going into the traditional porn industry are going exclusive to OnlyFans and Just for Fans. Take Morgxn Thicke for example, he has exclusively been on OF and JF. He's a sweet guy and even reached out to him about meeting and he said, if he's in the area he will.

 

But, when you look at who is doing videos with, they are desirable hot guys that I would also love to hire. So, again, this is just the beginning of a huge change ahead.

 

When I moved to the PNW in 2018, there were a lot of hot guys on RM. But going into 2019, something dramatically changed. I remembered when I showed interest in this guy, Ian, and reached out to him through Friendboy Pro; he seemed receptive at first.

 

Then he canceled at the last minute because he thought something was off. One day, I'm scrolling through Twitter and guess who I came across tied up bondage by some guy in Portland being promoted on their Only Fans page? The same guy.

 

Also, going back to the main point here, there are still a lot of guys, but no necessarily the quality and quantity some of us are looking for. New York, Miami, SF; sometimes its a waste of time going past the first 2 pages, usually the best float to the top. But its very small in comparison to just 2 to 3 years ago.

[+ Steve yabsley]

[uSER=19448]@Joshua Mann[/uSER]

 

interesting. I hadn’t seen him before....he looks really hot and has some great content posted. Anyone have first hand experience? Looks like he‘s in NYC for August.

[+ Steve yabsley]

Remember OnlyFans is a phenomenon that started in the last 5 years. RM has been around longer, but I’m sure before RM there were ads in back pages too. Those eventually got succeeded. An escort I met last constantly was pushing me to go check out his OF for more exclusive content.

 

I certainly agree, this won’t replace body contact. But does the escort care and do the new generation of target users who grew up only knowing the iPhone, iPad care? Nope!

 

That is the problem, within 10 to 20 years, this might not actually exist. If it still does, it will shift the power balance. Instead, escorts will choose who they want as clients and not the other way around.

Begs the question..... are OF and JF the new RM? Will RM disappear?

[coriolis888]

I’m the same way.

I need the touch of someone.

The hug of someone.

The kiss of someone.

The caress of someone.

The sex with someone.

 

Yeah, I can go jackoff to some porn or OF, but touching yourself is not quite the same as when you’re with someone and orgasm.

 

I paid the monthly $15 to two Only Fans guys over the last year, but stopped it after one month. I saw their pictures. I saw one of them do sex scenes as well, and they weren’t quality sex scenes. I get off on certain angles of porn, and not some camera phone on the end of a bed shooting. The other hot guy teased with his pics and vids, but he never even showed the whole banana! I was done after a month and wouldn’t repeat.

 

 

I even subscribed to Brent Everett’s porn site at his discounted rate of $9.95 a month. No wonder it’s that cheap! He hasn’t hardly uploaded new content!

 

Besides, I get bored of watching the same people have sex or jack off. I need to see someone new every so often. There are so many free porn sites out there now, that you can find something new to jack off to, blow your load, and be done with it for awhile. No need to pay someone per month for the same thing!

 

That is why the escort scene won’t go away entirely. It’s been around for a long time, and will becc C with us for a long time.

 

 

 

Your post accurately summarizes the facts for many.

[+ DrownedBoy]

He said during the video, are gonna help bring me over 1,000? I don’t think he’s really gonna do that just for $20

 

Slumming on RM Live Vids, in a room open to all, I paid in total about $15 in tokens to 2 guys who spent maybe 10 minutes doing what I asked them to. It was 2 Russians who didn't speak English; I had to use Google Translate to tell them what to do. It didn't really do anything for me. I have maybe 5 or 10 minutes left to waste.

 

As far as OF is concerned, I noticed a lot of young guys on Grindr have accounts. I reached out to one of them to see if they were also looking for generous men to meet in person, and they quickly said yes. It would appear that for "normal" guys (not hotshot bodybuilders or models), OF doesn't generate much income, so they need to supplement it.

 

(DISCLAIMER I'm younger than a lot of clients here, so that might give me an advantage on Grindr).

 

I think this is just a fad that will pass with Covid. Studies established that making money off social media follows the "superstar" model - a handful of elite users make good money, but everyone else is lucky to grab a few bucks. Escorting will still be the only viable side hustle for the vast majority of young men.

Edited August 9, 2020 by DrownedBoy

[marylander1940]

Begs the question..... are OF and JF the new RM? Will RM disappear?

 

No, they'll share the market. RM got lucky with the Homeland Security destroying the competence though.

[Milo Farnsworth]

I’m the same way.

I need the touch of someone.

The hug of someone.

The kiss of someone.

The caress of someone.

The sex with someone.

 

Yeah, I can go jackoff to some porn or OF, but touching yourself is not quite the same as when you’re with someone and orgasm.

 

I paid the monthly $15 to two Only Fans guys over the last year, but stopped it after one month. I saw their pictures. I saw one of them do sex scenes as well, and they weren’t quality sex scenes. I get off on certain angles of porn, and not some camera phone on the end of a bed shooting. The other hot guy teased with his pics and vids, but he never even showed the whole banana! I was done after a month and wouldn’t repeat.

 

 

I even subscribed to Brent Everett’s porn site at his discounted rate of $9.95 a month. No wonder it’s that cheap! He hasn’t hardly uploaded new content!

 

Besides, I get bored of watching the same people have sex or jack off. I need to see someone new every so often. There are so many free porn sites out there now, that you can find something new to jack off to, blow your load, and be done with it for awhile. No need to pay someone per month for the same thing!

 

That is why the escort scene won’t go away entirely. It’s been around for a long time, and will becc C with us for a long time.

Not much beats a hot, muscled escort with a good attitude and loves what he does!!

[+ Coolwave35]

interesting. I hadn’t seen him before....he looks really hot and has some great content posted. Anyone have first hand experience? Looks like he‘s in NYC for August.

 

He’s living with me in southampton at the moment. I can answer ANY questions you have.

[NikoLeto]

Then he canceled at the last minute because he thought something was off. One day, I'm scrolling through Twitter and guess who I came across tied up bondage by some guy in Portland being promoted on their Only Fans page? The same guy.

 

Hahaha, I know exactly the "bondage guy" you mean.

 

Begs the question..... are OF and JF the new RM? Will RM disappear?

 

As an escort looking to get into OnlyFans, it is my perspective that the market is saturated, you are required to drive your own traffic to your content, and it requires a bewildering array of skills (up to and including filmography, lighting, video editing, marketing, business acumen, networking, and so on). As such, success is not guaranteed - not by a long shot. Those who are not business savvy will flounder. Those who are exceptionally poor at managing their business will see limited success followed by a hard crash.

 

Success in user-created porn content does not have a "solved equation" to business solvency. Everyone who attempts it is forging their own path and burning the bridge behind them as they go (so others can't replicate/steal their success and dilute their earnings).

 

Additionally, video content is never going to compare with the act itself. I can film a scene where I'm tied up and gagging on dildos or being fucked or whatever you want to imagine, but it's nothing near the same as you the client getting to engage with me personally to fulfill whatever your fantasy happens to be. And that's completely ignoring the not-so-fantastic. Regular vanilla interactions, human touch, etc. those are priceless in their own way.

 

I don't see RM or escorting going anywhere. It's survived since the birth of humanity, I think it'll last a wee bit longer.

[Enronnja]

Begs the question..... are OF and JF the new RM? Will RM disappear?

No, its just the quality will go down, as what you might desire as a hot guy will become much harder to get. If and when they do show up on RM is when they are no longer the hot thing on social media or their exclusive high clientele drops them (which is usually fast) and bad money management.

 

So, when they have basically aged out of platforms like Twitter, OF and JFF, then you will see them sending you messages on RM. Irony, when that happens, you likely have no interest in them.

 

The savvy person here should play both fields, use both social media and RM escorting to really have multiple options. But, when you are young, muscular and handsome, you really don't care.