Lots of people are still hooking up

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Again, that comparison is not valid because of the lack of existence of a medication to fight off Covid.?‍♂️

 

But I’m not comparing big risk/little risk. I’m comparing actions as a whole. You just said I shouldn’t be having meets if I’m not having these conversations.

 

I’m saying people are having these conversations, but it means nothing as far as hookups are concerned. I never ask someone if they are negative, last been tested, or “clean”. Means nothing. They could have been tested today, fucked someone on the way to me, and give me something. Instead, I will check them and I will check myself. And I get tested.

[MrMattBig]

But I’m not comparing big risk/little risk. I’m comparing actions as a whole. You just said I shouldn’t be having meets if I’m not having these conversations.

 

I’m saying people are having these conversations, but it means nothing as far as hookups are concerned. I never ask someone if they are negative, last been tested, or “clean”. Means nothing. They could have been tested today, fucked someone on the way to me, and give me something. Instead, I will check them and I will check myself. And I get tested.

Which would be the big risk and which would be the little risk?

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Which would be the big risk and which would be the little risk?

 

“Little” risk: bad gonorreah infection, which is curable...but can lead to infertility and cancer.

 

“Big” risk: COVID

 

My thing is too: we don’t even know how long this is going to last. No time line is being given. It’s already been a month since the first case was reported in Florida.

 

Not to mention, there’s so much emphasis on COVID and not on the “regular” cold and flu virus. What happened to those, is COVID so powerful that it just gobbled those up? Don’t we all get a cold once or twice a year? Unless COVID is a hybrid of a cold ? and a flu ?, with a sprinkle of ? bat stew ?

 

Something just doesn’t seem right...but, I’m sure there’s enough info across the web to discuss that.

[curiousbynature12]

Is anyone concerned about contact tracing and how that will change hookups and meeting with providers?

 

The idea of limiting the spread of the virus is great, especially if it means not having to this level of quarantine and isolation in the not-so-distant future, but not great when you consider the privacy implications..

[LookingAround]

No.

But I did once get called by the health department that a sex partner had gonorrhea and I was being notified. My only sex partner then was a super well known escort who’s a board celebrity.

[MikeBiDude]

Is anyone concerned about contact tracing and how that will change hookups and meeting with providers?

 

The idea of limiting the spread of the virus is great, especially if it means not having to this level of quarantine and isolation in the not-so-distant future, but not great when you consider the privacy implications..

No

[+ Keith30309]

SEX 2020

 

 

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

No.

But I did once get called by the health department that a sex partner had gonorrhea and I was being notified. My only sex partner then was a super well known escort who’s a board celebrity.

 

I'm curious. How did that work?

 

So, the escort tells the health dept who he's slept with and they notify you? Was he not mature enough to handle this himself?

[borgerback]

Is anyone concerned about contact tracing and how that will change hookups and meeting with providers?

 

The idea of limiting the spread of the virus is great, especially if it means not having to this level of quarantine and isolation in the not-so-distant future, but not great when you consider the privacy implications..

VERY concerned.

[+ Reisr30]

I have to be honest, even when things go back to semi normal I’m not sure I’m going to want to kiss anyone. Which is a bummer?

[+ sniper]

I'm curious. How did that work?

 

So, the escort tells the health dept who he's slept with and they notify you? Was he not mature enough to handle this himself?

In some jurisdictions I think they are compelled to provide the information to the health department.

[Beancounter]

I'm curious. How did that work?

 

So, the escort tells the health dept who he's slept with and they notify you? Was he not mature enough to handle this himself?

In Texas physicians are required to report specific diseases. What happens after that....I’m not sure.

 

https://www.dshs.texas.gov/hivstd/reporting/

[+ José Soplanucas]

I'm curious. How did that work?

 

So, the escort tells the health dept who he's slept with and they notify you? Was he not mature enough to handle this himself?

 

The health system cannot trust on the patients to go back and talk to their partners, they must call you. Of course this does not answer your full questions. @LookingAround , did the escort also call you?

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

In Texas physicians are required to report specific diseases. What happens after that....I’m not sure.

 

https://www.dshs.texas.gov/hivstd/reporting/

 

As there's no public list of whom tested positive for what, it really doesn't make much sense from a safety perspective unless the person provides the names of the last several people he's had sex with, no?

 

The link is an interesting read. It feels like it's mainly for demographics/stat purposes.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

The health system cannot trust on the patients to go back and talk to their partners, they must call you

 

Yes, but they can only call if the infected person gives them that information.

 

Otherwise, it remains the responsibility of the person who tested positive to inform.

[+ Keith30309]

Every time I go in for a screen they go thru the standard disclosures. One of them is that if you are positive for anything that you can voluntarily give them the names and phone numbers of anyone you’ve had sex within a set period. The clinic will contact them without disclosing your name.

In Georgia they are required to report to the state positive reports of HIV, syphilis, chlamydia, gonorrhea, Hep A-E, and a bunch of other stuff.

 

(On a side note.... not really surprising but the clinic I go to has suspended all STI screens for now because of social distancing requirements.)

[Monarchy79]

There’s no karma to be had lol. Spiritual or otherwise. In your example, the escort would be asymptomatic. There’s no way to prove the escort picked up the virus from the supermarket, or that the client didn’t get it thru some other means. Even with that @hypothetically given context ?

 

But idk, I can’t tell people what to do. I’m not here to do that. Obviously you want to abide by your local restrictions, to be on the good side of law and health. Trust me: when I’m sick, I don’t even want to look at porn. Let alone be concerned with me trying to have sex

 

But at the end of the day, people are making up scenarios in their head, and then spreading them around as being “gospel”. That’s why the Bible has been so grossly misinterpreted over the centuries, because people took something that was written, and misinterpreted as being a “law” and breaking it is “bad”.

 

There’s no mandates saying to wear a mask in public, no mandates saying you can’t meet your partner for sex, no mandates saying you could be held directly responsible for giving someone COVID.

 

Ummm yes, there’s tons of Karma to be had.

I firmly believe that there’s a way to operate in life, even in the dealings of sex.

 

Now how you conduct your business is your choice, but I will tell you that there are sex professionals who are on hiatus right now, who have put a moratorium on direct contact services, out of consideration for their clients (one of them is actually on this forum, and is quite successful).

 

Good fortune always comes to those who put out good energy through good actions. Having consideration for those you have sex with will result in good karma.

[LookingAround]

I'm curious. How did that work?

 

So, the escort tells the health dept who he's slept with and they notify you? Was he not mature enough to handle this himself?

Yep. They said a sex partner (unnamed) had given them my contact information. He was my only recent hookup so had to have been him.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Ummm yes, there’s tons of Karma to be had.

I firmly believe that there’s a way to operate in life, even in the dealings of sex.

 

Now how you conduct your business is your choice, but I will tell you that there are sex professionals who are on hiatus right now, who have put a moratorium on direct contact services, out of consideration for their clients (one of them is actually on this forum, and is quite successful).

 

Good fortune always comes to those who put out good energy through good actions. Having consideration for those you have sex with will result in good karma.

 

I get what you're saying. Trust me. You mentioned earlier that you weren't referring to moral aspects, but rather social responsibility. So therefore you can't use "karma" to dictate the outcome of what 2 consenting adults CHOOSE to do. They can choose to be in hiatus, or choose to meet up.

 

But, the point I'm making, is that all those points you mention can be NORMALLY applied to all other forms of sex, which isn't between a married man and woman. Maybe we should all "do the right thing" and not have sex with married men who may be our clients, because that's karma. We shouldn't get paid period because, that's bad karma too perhaps. And no bareback or oral without a condom, because that's bad karma because one could potentially get an std from doing that.

 

Do you think, your average bible thumper would agree that it's okay to be meeting a man for naked massages (lead me not to temptation), or sex, much less having it bareback, much less getting paid for it...while his wife or partner is not around? Would they suggest to just "watch porn" instead of have real sex? So how can we judge others, for doing the very things we're judged of?

 

I'll leave it here: I'm not encouraging anyone to go out and have sex. One of my repeat clients recently told me he can't meet me because COVID will likely kill his wife. Did I go knocking on his door, demanding him to pay and have sex with me? No. I said I understand, and referred him to my JFF page.

 

What I am advocating: don't judge or put shame on someone who is having sex. One may not agree with it (legalize), but that doesn't mean one should blacklist or criticize (decriminalize) a person's decisions to do what is necessary to get thru this.

[Monarchy79]

I get what you're saying. Trust me. You mentioned earlier that you weren't referring to moral aspects, but rather social responsibility. So therefore you can't use "karma" to dictate the outcome of what 2 consenting adults CHOOSE to do. They can choose to be in hiatus, or choose to meet up.

 

But, the point I'm making, is that all those points you mention can be NORMALLY applied to all other forms of sex, which isn't between a married man and woman. Maybe we should all "do the right thing" and not have sex with married men who may be our clients, because that's karma. We shouldn't get paid period because, that's bad karma too perhaps. And no bareback or oral without a condom, because that's bad karma because one could potentially get an std from doing that.

 

Do you think, your average bible thumper would agree that it's okay to be meeting a man for naked massages (lead me not to temptation), or sex, much less having it bareback, much less getting paid for it...while his wife or partner is not around? Would they suggest to just "watch porn" instead of have real sex? So how can we judge others, for doing the very things we're judged of?

 

I'll leave it here: I'm not encouraging anyone to go out and have sex. One of my repeat clients recently told me he can't meet me because COVID will likely kill his wife. Did I go knocking on his door, demanding him to pay and have sex with me? No. I said I understand, and referred him to my JFF page.

 

What I am advocating: don't judge or put shame on someone who is having sex. One may not agree with it (legalize), but that doesn't mean one should blacklist or criticize (decriminalize) a person's decisions to do what is necessary to get thru this.

 

I’ll put it to you like this ☺️:

 

having sex, selling services, whether it’s for free, for bartering or for any other purpose is like selling used cars.

 

we can either be upstanding salesmen, provide warranties, follow up with our customers, and take pride in our product, or...

 

We can go in for the “quick sale”, and possibly sell the customer a lemon (knowingly or unknowingly) and tell them “tough luck buddy, the car is off the lot and I didn’t force you to buy it”.

 

No judgment either way, but no one likes a tricky used car salesman....

[Guy Fawkes]

Naw! That' the 1980s, We use LCD screens now adays.

SEX 2020

 

 

Edited April 7, 2020 by Guy Fawkes

[Jarrod_Uncut]

I’ll put it to you like this ☺️:

 

having sex, selling services, whether it’s for free, for bartering or for any other purpose is like selling used cars.

 

we can either be upstanding salesmen, provide warranties, follow up with our customers, and take pride in our product, or...

 

We can go in for the “quick sale”, and possibly sell the customer a lemon (knowingly or unknowingly) and tell them “tough luck buddy, the car is off the lot and I didn’t force you to buy it”.

 

No judgment either way, but no one likes a tricky used car salesman....

 

As someone who works on cars (me), me selling a workable hard d**k, personality, and clean upscale location complete with wine, porno and music going...versus selling a used car with miles and miles of PARTS that have a mind of their own, can’t be put in the same category. For example: I just had my starter replaced in February. And now yesterday and today, my car didn’t want to start. Thank goodness I took some clients last week, else I’d be fucked every which way from Sunday.

 

I only used the drunk driver comparison as a way to remove the villainization aspect of someone. But ironically, even bartenders are out of business right now...despite the thousands of drunk driving accidents and deaths that occur yearly. BUT...you can still buy alcohol. So clearly, alcohol isn’t truly to blame. So sex shouldn’t be to blame either, for this pandemic (which again, isn’t even sexually transmitted ??‍♂️

 

So clearly it’s not the bartender’s fault if someone drives off a cliff, And clearly it’s not the sex workers fault if someone contracts corona.

[+ bashful]

So clearly it’s not the bartender’s fault if someone drives off a cliff

 

Oh, but it is. They, and their employer can be held liable under dram shop laws.

 

And clearly it’s not the sex workers fault if someone contracts corona.

 

As for the latter part of you sentence, time will tell.

Edited April 7, 2020 by bashful

[Monarchy79]

As someone who works on cars (me), me selling a workable hard d**k, personality, and clean upscale location complete with wine, porno and music going...versus selling a used car with miles and miles of PARTS that have a mind of their own, can’t be put in the same category. For example: I just had my starter replaced in February. And now yesterday and today, my car didn’t want to start. Thank goodness I took some clients last week, else I’d be fucked every which way from Sunday.

 

I only used the drunk driver comparison as a way to remove the villainization aspect of someone. But ironically, even bartenders are out of business right now...despite the thousands of drunk driving accidents and deaths that occur yearly. BUT...you can still buy alcohol. So clearly, alcohol isn’t truly to blame. So sex shouldn’t be to blame either, for this pandemic (which again, isn’t even sexually transmitted ??‍♂️

 

So clearly it’s not the bartender’s fault if someone drives off a cliff, And clearly it’s not the sex workers fault if someone contracts corona.

 

 

From a few of your posts, I’ve noticed that your car has required a lot of repairs....... That’s strange as Infiniti’s are very good, reliable cars.

[DMICS]

It’s appalling to me that people are still hooking up with such frequency, but my friends and I are seeing it happen every day in both the straight and gay communities. People are off work or working from home and have the free time to do it. They rationalize it by saying I don’t have the virus, you don’t have the virus, so it’s okay for us to get together. And it’s not even taboo that people are hooking up: they’re bragging to me about it.

 

In order to mitigate their risk of contracting the virus, people are having sex outside or having sex doggie style and avoiding the missionary position and kissing. I wish I were joking.

 

Sadly, it doesn't shock me at all. I've had a few buddies reach out to play after I started isolating myself at home 4 weeks ago. One of the buddies, a married guy of 3, texts me regularly but I just can't do it. Grindr people are still active and looking, and the major outdoor cruising parks here guys are still going. More promoting open circle jerks with proper social distancing but *shrugs*

 

 

But talking about sex, this weekend closes my 4th week without hooking up. I am a slut and I am horny, and I may be weak and break my abstinence, but I am doing my best and so far successfully avoiding temptations. Shout out to me and to everyone who is working hard on doing the socially responsible thing.

 

 

Pretty much spot on. It's been 4 weeks for me also and I'm a hungry fucker 24/7 but it's just about common sense at this point.

 

After nearly 3 weeks of lockdown, San Francisco is starting to have a bit of a Mad Max feel. The traffic is weird-people speeding on the city streets and running stop signs and red lights.

 

Same thing is happening here, especially on the major freeways. There's been a big surge in reckless speeders.