Jamie21

Unfortunately there’s a lot on drugs. Ok so maybe it allows them to see 4 or 5 clients in a day but it also means they’re likely to be washed up within a year or two. I know a guy who started out looking fresh and healthy. I worked with him a few times in porn and with clients. He was great; intelligent, sexy, fun and we got on well. Then he started to get with the wrong people and began to use drugs. I saw him change in a year, both physically and mentally. It nearly destroyed him. At one point he gave me his cash and credit cards for 6 months so that he couldn’t spend on drugs. There’s a happy ending (like in my massages ha ha) in that now my friend is off that stuff and is back to being the bright engaging person he was before…but he’s not doing sex work any longer (well…he does a bit …because he enjoys it…but he avoids the people who he associated with previously). But he could easily fall back into it unless he’s vigilant. Had he stayed mixing with the wrong crowd in London he’d probably be dead or totally wasted now. That’s how dangerous it is to go down that route. Tempting though it is to dip a toe in it’s almost impossible to manage, especially if you’re the kind of open minded and boundary pushing person who does sex work.

I’d be wary of this if it’s a new client. You might find some guys decline your offer even though it’s very kind and seems a nice way to start. The reason is the risk of something being put in the drink. It’s unfortunate but there are bad clients out there who are looking to take advantage or worse. It’s obviously extremely unlikely but I wouldn’t take the risk if visiting a new client at a location he has chosen. For that reason I always take my own drink.

Interesting! I’ve a friend who works as both, sometimes he escorts as a gay Twink, sometimes as a transexual. I’ve done duo’s with him (in his gay Twink persona) but I’ve not worked with her. She charges more than he does. There’s more demand in London for her than there is for him. She tells me she can attract a different quality of client. I understand though that the rates she can charge are still lower than a non trans female could demand.

In these days where one can self identify as female I might start to do that, and put up my rates 🙂. I’ll ask clients to pretend my 8 inch cock isn’t there. Preferred pronouns: Her, she.

I appreciate clients booking in advance. I get messages like, ‘I’m coming to London first week of September (this is in say June) are you available for booking?’ and I will say ‘yes’ or ‘no’ if I’m planning to be away then. The client might leave booking an actual time until nearer the first week in September and that’s fine but it could be that I’m all booked up for the times he wants. That’s just tough luck so I’d always say to book in advance if possible. I’ve no problem with clients booking 2 or 3 months hence. I’m always surprised when clients ask for bookings on the day or for say ‘3pm tomorrow’ when they’re planned their visit months in advance yet they’re somehow expecting I’ll be free at the drop of a hat. Then they’re disappointed because I couldn’t see them on their visit, and so am I because I feel sorry for them. If you definitely want a session then please book it in advance! I’m not just hanging around all day on the chance someone wants to book. I must get about 4 or 5 requests a week for ‘are you free in the next hour or so’ and 99% of the time I have to say no. Think about it…if he’s free in the next hour is he likely to be any good? Will he be focused and prepared for you? It’s unlikely. I think the chances of having a good experience are greatest if you have booked in advance.

Yes females charge more.

Yes Dayuse is good. I use them to do filming sessions. There’s usually a reasonable choice of locations.

There’s loads of massage movies on my justforfans 🙂. https://justfor.fans/MassageForHim Please forgive the blatant self promotion… if you like them then come for a massage!

Burner phone…

Clients expect discretion, and so do I. They can call me whatever they like in the moment…

Regrets that he didn’t charge per cum.

I work with females who would do this. However usually when clients ask me to set it up they’re surprised by the rate (for both of us) and that often deters them from proceeding. Guys who usually hire guys aren’t used to paying the higher rates that females generally charge. In sex work it is one of the few areas where the gender pay differential works the other way around!!

Yes PrEP is self protection. If a client asks me to fuck them bb then I find myself asking them if they’re on prep for their own protection. I notice some younger clients ask for bb but they’re not on PrEP, which is surprising. I wonder why anyone would risk that. I know my status is negative (I test very regularly) but why would they just rely on me saying I’m negative? I wouldn’t rely on that, which is why I take PrEP (and obviously because of my work). I counsel them to take care of themselves and go and find out about it. Here in the UK it is available free of charge on the NHS.

No, and quite difficult to prove. I mean I can show them my prep pills, the prescription etc but it’s still no guarantee of anything. No one has asked for proof. I’m fine to use condoms though I prefer not to.

That’s a very straight forward request to ask. I’ve been asked for similar things in the past and fulfilled them for a client. More commonly it’s for a guy to watch me have sex with his wife or partner, but I’ve also done it for single guys to watch me with another provider (both male and female) who I arrange. The client just gives me his requirements and I set it all up. I’d say the best location is a hotel which I also arrange in some instances (I know the best hotels to use). Usually the person watching is just a voyeur and won’t want to participate at any point, but not always. You’ll need to make it clear to the provider whether you want any part in the scene. Also instructions on whether the couple are to acknowledge your presence, follow your instructions or include any specific positions etc. I’m sure you’ll find a provider who knows female providers who will work with him so just find a guy you like and ask him the question. Be prepared to pay a large deposit. Something like this takes a bit of coordination (2 providers diaries to align) and financial commitment to set up and there are too many guys who simply have the fantasy but who get cold feet once the time comes (especially the “it’s a surprise for my wife” crowd 🙄). So no provider will take your request seriously until you pay at least half the cost up front. I certainly don’t entertain “wife surprise fantasists” not in the least because I’m not going to be part of any surprise for her. You’ll need therefore to demonstrate that you’re serious about it and not someone who gets off on the thought without any intention of seeing it through. Good luck with it! Interested to hear how it goes.

I don’t own a watch, I’ve never worn one. Perfection needs no adornments 😂

Yes I agree with @Jarrod_Uncutabout using Viagra. It works but don’t get reliant on it. I use it if I’m shooting porn or going to a sex party (not work) but otherwise I don’t use it if I’m seeing clients. In porn I have to cum but if I’m at a sex party most guys just want to stay hard for the evening and cum at the end. In that respect viagra helps to keep hard the whole time. I think sometimes it’s also psychological - and taking any similar pill (such as a herbal or natural variety) will have the same effect as viagra. My clients tend to be spread out too so it’s rare I’ll see more than 1 in a day. I can cope with that!! The advice to exercise and eat well is also good. You need stamina and to be physically flexible. I don’t drink alcohol so I think that helps me keep weight off, as well as the exercise.

At least there wasn’t a picture.

There’s a site you can use to check problem numbers. Here in UK there’s also a site (national ugly mugs) that helps provide resources to sex workers to protect themselves including sending out warnings about threatening clients.

Same thing happened to me. Client was in phone by his nickname on some site and I didn’t have his actual name. It went on for a few sessions so I couldn’t refer to him by name. Thankfully one time he booked he signed off the text with his name. I was so pleased I probably over used it during his session. Now I always put the right name in my phone and nickname in brackets as in “Donald (cumdump79)”. Obviously the nickname sometimes provides guidance as to their preferences 🙂

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Some do, some don’t. Licensed massage therapists definitely don’t but guys advertising themselves as ‘sensual or erotic or tantric’ masseurs usually do include some element of sexual activity. It can range from just both people being naked and genital touch to full sex. It depends what, as a masseur, you’re comfortable with. There’s things to consider regarding the legality of selling sex in some places in the world (unfortunately) but usually this is got around by selling time (anything else happening not being part of the transaction). If I was you I’d look at adverts for guys providing erotic or sensual massage and book a session with one you like. They’ll be happy to talk to you about how they work. I started like that and got great advice from guys who’d worked in the industry. I advertise as a sensual masseur and yes I do include sex with my clients if they want that. I know masseurs who don’t go that far. It’s very variable, there’s no set definitions about what’s included so you can decide what you’re happy with and of course the price you can charge will be influenced by what you include (being mindful of the thing I said earlier about charging for time only though if that’s relevant where you are). Good luck with it! I’d love to hear how you get on.

Not quite. If they cancel on me once it’s fine, things happen (illness, emergencies, travel problems etc). If it happens twice without good reason, I simply don’t take another booking from them. Never. Sometimes they forget they messed me around and they approach me again to book but I decline saying they flaked previously. Most of my clients are regular returning clients. I built up regular clients over the years because I think that’s the best way. Give a professional top quality and always fresh service and people return. There’s so many poor operators in the industry (flaky providers are more common than flaky clients) that if you’re professional and skilled you stand out. Regular clients are reliable; a trust and respect has been created. When you know the other person there’s more of an obligation. With some first time clients I guess it’s easy for them to cancel or flake because the other person (me) is ‘just someone doing sex work’ …and I do get that vibe when these type of people book. I’m usually right. It’s amazing how the patterns of the flaky clients repeat. I don’t get many of these now but I book them in anyway and give the benefit of the doubt, but with a 75% expectation they’ll cancel or no show. After some trial and error this model works well for me, other models work too depending on the market where you operate…but the fundamental and essential element of any way of working in this industry is to give a fantastic and professional service to your clients. Each one is special.

The first time someone pays you for a massage….you are an actual male masseur. Up to that point you aren’t one.

It sounds like you’re not happy with how it’s working though? Maybe I’m misreading you and that everything is fine but it doesn’t seem like it from what you say. sorry to hear it. I agree if they want to use you then they have to comply with your booking arrangements and availability. Same with me, and I work on a different model. But if you find that there’s insufficient clients willing to hire that way then perhaps the model isn’t right for the market? It’s then a decision to change the model or change the market. Since the market is difficult to change it leaves you in a quandary. The scene is flaky here too. Yesterday I had gone to the trouble of lining up another masseur for a 4 hands a client wanted. He had specific requirements about what he wanted and the type of masseur to work with me. So I booked the venue and set it all up. The client confirms and agreed the rate which included my rate for the more escort type service he wanted. Then an hour after it’s all set up he messages to say he can’t afford it. Probably looking for me to discount it. I just said “ok thanks” and cancelled the appointment. Waste of time for all of us, but nothing I can do about it except note it for future when he inevitably contacts me again… Everyone has to find the model that works for them. If yours works that’s great but I get the feeling from your posts that it doesn’t work as well as you’d like it to, and that the market needs to change to fit your model. Good luck with it but I think you’re going to find the market prevails unfortunately.