Jamie21

I don’t understand how some guys can be into doing some of the weird sexual fetishes I’m occasionally asked for….(being pissed on…hmmm no sorry I can’t do that); it’s no different to some guys liking to sleep on an overnight. The attraction is you wake up, there’s someone naked there next to you, sleeping soundly. See him sleep, watch him breathing, stroke his skin and gently wake him, as he slowly comes to awareness and recognises you with a shy grin. Kiss him, cuddle him, feel his growing cock as you nuzzle closer….isn’t that better than waking alone?

Clients have all sorts of preferences. Just like everyone does. There’s a market for all types (although it may vary in size). Be your authentic self and focus on your strengths. Those who like that kind of thing will find you.

When most of the sex you have is work sex you’re less inclined to go to a sex party.

People’s sleep habits can be surprising. I took a couple of nights away with a friend of mine, who is also a sex worker (we often work together). We wanted to have a short break and decided not to see any clients whilst away, just chill out and have some fun (although we did shoot a film for justforfans whilst we were away to pay for the trip). He’d had a tough time so the idea was to help him recover and refresh his energy. Turns out that although we are compatible in many ways (we like similar things sexually and have similar interests) we are certainly not compatible when sleeping! I sleep naked and prefer my companion to be naked, he prefers to wear pants and t shirt in bed. I go to bed early and like morning sex, he likes to stay up late, fuck before going to sleep, and then lay in. I like the window open, he wanted it closed. I like music playing to get off to sleep, he likes silence. I wanted to sleep on the right….so did he. He seemed to be awake all night, which kept waking me. The other problem was at the time he was on drugs which was probably why he stayed awake all night. I didn’t realise the extent of it at the time because he hid it (good news, he’s off them now). The weekend was great fun in every way except sleeping. I think you really get to know someone when you sleep overnight with them in the same bed!

Portuguese Pox probably

Pox or vaccine?

No. Get vaccinated. Carry on.

I think it’s ok as long as they’re clear about what the terms are. Some guys are happy to make movies for Onlyfans with other models but don’t want to offer those kind of services to clients. After all, you don’t know who might book you as a client whereas you do know who you’re filming with. I offer sensual massage, so it’s more than just therapeutic (as in I do give happy endings and oral etc) but it does not include things that I do on my justforfans films. I have them branded separately so that people who watch my justforfans wouldn’t assume their massage will include everything they see on the justforfans films.

Well, I am idle for 12 hours a day of course. I just hang around naked with a semi while watching porn (doesn’t everyone?), but clients always call just when I decide to wash my hair.

Yes, I get that impression too. “Hey Jamie are you free today?” I reply “no sorry I’m busy today” because I planned things given there was no work. Then the client says “oh I was hoping to get a massage today, it’s my last day in London” or something similar. It’s definitely as if they think I’m just sitting around waiting for clients to call. I think people don’t see you as having other commitments or needing to do ‘life’ tasks. You’re just always doing your work in their view and it comes as a big surprise and disappointment when you’re not available! I tell them it’s usually best to book in advance but I think for many people they like to do things impulsively, especially if they’re horny, so you get a lot of last minute requests. I’m preferring not to see those type of clients anyway; they don’t really want a massage they want quick relief, often they’re drunk or high. I prefer to see clients who appreciate a good massage and enjoy the intimacy a sensual massage can deliver. Those clients usually book and come for an experience that is more than just a quick release. I’m sorry you have to move city @Jarrod_Uncut. Maybe it will be a better situation.

I know why. It’s because they’re paying. If it’s inconvenient for you or you find their approach is inconsiderate then it’s your choice to say just ‘no’ or ignore them. Of course in saying ‘no’ you forego the earning opportunity, which is probably what is annoying.

The word ‘probably’ in his message is the clue. Phrases and words like ‘Probably’, ‘Looking to’, ‘Considering’ and ‘Will definitely’ all actually mean ‘I have no intention of proceeding but I am just enjoying the thought of it’.

Sounds like you do a good due diligence! Sensible if you’re spending a fair bit of money. I get massages myself, so can see the perspective from both sides; provider and client. If I have a bad experience with a masseur (it’s actually rare; I do check them out thoroughly too) then I feel irritated at paying them for poor value. But the irritation is mostly directed at myself for picking the wrong guy. Even though the experience might have been average there’s usually something I can learn though, so it’s kind of nothing lost. Even if he wasn’t great it’s kind of reassuring to know that the competition is rubbish!!

Probably don’t enter into any detailed arrangements about a session until they have paid your deposit. Once they pay you something only then engage on discussion about arrangements etc. However, I feel that you can have the most sophisticated ‘time waster’ screening methods but somehow they still get through! A few days ago I had a client book, for same day, with a few hours notice. He was new, and asked questions that were the usual red flags, so all the usual time waster signs were there. Regardless of these, foolishly I accepted the booking and a session was arranged. About 45 minutes before the scheduled start of the massage he texted and said he was ‘running late’ (is he a train?) and would arrive half an hour late. At that point I knew he would no show, and sure enough after I’d acknowledged his ‘running late’ message with an “ok” he ghosted me. That’s at least 2 hours of my time wasted. So now his number is on the naughty list. If he messages me again in future I’ll remind him of the no show and tell him where to go. I only hope that nothing bad happened to him that meant he couldn’t contact me. Most likely though is that he is indeed one of those ignorant rude people who have no regard for anyone else. There aren’t many but wow are they annoying when they do appear. Fortunately I had a regular client book with me for immediately after the time wasters planned session so my time wasn’t completely wasted.

Your comment is wrong. There’s over 80 full length massage videos on there.

Hey don’t be sorry! It’s your perception. I’m bound to put the masseur’s perspective. There clearly are guys chancing their arm out there. Look for someone who’s been around a while with good feedback etc. I think the ‘chancers’ are new to the market and making hay out of their novelty. They tend not to stick around because they’re not really invested in doing a good job and getting repeat clients.

That’s quite bleak and cynical. Also quite true. Find love elsewhere. I’ve seen it with some clients, they mistakenly believe that I’m present in the room with them for reasons other than they’re paying me. Honestly if I reciprocated with those feelings there would be no money involved. If you’re paying him, that’s the only reason he’s there.

Don’t overlook though that whilst a masseur might charge $200 for an hour he’s doing more work outside that hour that isn’t directly compensated. There’s all the time spent talking with potential clients. There’s time spent on personal hygiene and trying to keep fit (it is after all physical work and clients do like fit masseurs generally), there’s time updating social media and advertising, cleaning studio and washing towels etc. There’s also overheads like oil, room rental, travel costs, taxes, insurance. So what looks like to you is income of $200 an hour is really $120 for 3 hours. Then there’s all the time wasted because clients book but then don’t show up, like happened to me yesterday. I saw the signs but gave him the benefit of doubt and booked him in. Sure enough…he first says he’s running late then it just goes silent. The rates we charge reflect the value we assign to our services. If a clients budget aligns with that then we’ll get bookings. Obviously there will be people who aren’t prepared to pay that price. It’s only a problem to me if no one is prepared to pay. But that’s not the case, I get clients booking, and returning, so I’m fine with my price. If I didn’t get any clients then my choice is reduce the price or leave the market.

It’s very situational. Recreational sex I’m usually more bottom these days. Work sex I’m usually more top. Group sex (work or recreational) I’m versatile. Sometimes I want to be the cum dump, sometimes I just like cuddling and suck etc without any anal penetration. It’s very complicated!

Oh yes I agree. They should be clear about what’s included in the price. I don’t think doing ‘in massage’ upsells creates the right atmosphere. I always agree everything that’s to be included in the massage with my clients beforehand and never do upsells during the massage unless they want to extend the time. Primarily I’m doing a massage service, it’s got to be a great massage. But also include all the things you’d expect from a sensual massage (that can vary though between masseurs) so including tonsil massage, h/e, nudity, touching me etc. If it’s clear they want more of an escort type session then that’s a different discussion and a different rate.

Has happened to me a few times and is awkward. Not because I’m embarrassed; most of my friends know what I do and I’m quite open about it in my social groups, so on the few occasions clients have recognised me I’ve not been anxious about what they might say. The awkwardness comes from me not recognising them as a client in a different setting. Obviously I know my regulars but the occasional client or once off I wouldn’t remember their face if approached at a pub or on the street. A few occasions guys have smiled or acknowledged me and I’ve really not known who the hell they are. I kind of recognise the face but struggle to say where from? Is it that guy at the gym? Or some former work associate? Or is it the massage client who likes his prostate worked over? Awkward… I just smile back and pretend I know them while desperately hoping they’ll give me a clue if conversation starts: Him “hi! how are you?” Me “oh hi, good thanks how’s you?” Him “good session last time” Me (thinking ah yes it’s prostate guy) “yes I’m glad you enjoyed it” Him “er…yes I needed it” Me (it’s definitely prostate guy) “absolutely, I was impressed how you shot your load so far when I gave your prostate a press!” Him (looking suddenly confused) “what?” Me (oh fuck, it’s the guy from the gym) “er I said I was impressed by the load on the bar as you lay prostrate on the bench press” Him (looking at me like I’m a weirdo) “yeah mate, see you around” Me (dying inside) “yeah, see you” Can’t visit that gym anymore…

And of course…keep your eyes open when kissing and gaze deeply into his eyes. Truly the eyes are the window to the soul.

It’s a red flag. It usually precedes a request for a discount. No decent provider cares what you look like. Just be clean and healthy.

What they mean is they don’t want to engage in ‘polite’ chat. Some clients think it’s nice to start a conversation off and kind of slowly build to the request. Don’t bother, all I want to know is when you want to come and the duration, plus your name. Those clients are serious and will get a reply. The polite chats that start with: ”Hi” ”How are you?” ….are a waste of time and are ignored. Also those who ask questions that can be answered by looking at the guys profile are annoying and pointless, such as: ”Do you do out calls to xxx?” …..and we have the ‘sex chat’ questions which get deleted immediately: ”How big is your cock?” …and the window shoppers also get deleted: ”What’s your best rate?” Those kind of conversation are 99% certain to be a time waster. No one will engage much with that kind of thing. Put your request right up front in the first message. “Hi, I’m into xxxxxx and want to book a session with you that will include that. Is it something you do?”. If they don’t answer it’s probably a “no” but if it’s in their repertoire then you’ll get a reply. Take it from there.

They come on student visas. Pre Brexit lots had Portuguese passports so could come to UK without any visa.