Jamie21

Send me a gift and I’ll look you up 😂

You got a good rating @mike carey 😉

Thanks! I hope it starts the day off well with a smile. It’s my British sense of humour. I hope it travels.

We already have a site. We discuss clients and share useful information about them such as dick size, body shape and whether they know how to suck a cock. They get a rating on various aspects of their ability as a client. There’s 8 scores that all add up to an overall rating. When you’ve seen a client you put his scores into the system and it calculates the client’s overall rating. That is then used to help us decide what to charge or indeed whether to respond atall to the client’s enquiry. The 8 scores are: 1) Desirability: 1 to 10 (where 10 is provider level desirability). Obviously on the site the scores 5 to 10 are greyed out since it’s not possible to award those. 2) Interest: 1 to 10. This is an indication of whether the client is able to hold a conversation on anything other than his desire to get off. 3) Communication: -10 to 10. An evaluation of his opening enquiry. ‘Hey’ gets a minus 10 score. Dick pics -11 which actually throws the system and deletes the client’s profile. The administrators are trying to fix that. Clients: don’t send dick pics if you want to keep your profile on the system. 4) Kindness: 1 to 3. The score used to go up to 10 but it never got used. 5) Hygiene : 1 to 10. This score has a multiplier. It’s worth 2X the other scores when calculating the overall rating. 6) Ease of use: 1 to 10. Includes aspects like does he arch his back or just lie there like a sack of potatoes. (Yes I’m thinking of you- yesterday’s client…you score 1 on this). 7) Ability: 1 to 6. Not much is expected tbh. 8). Defrayment: 1 to 10. Does he pay without haggling and how much is tipped. These 8 scores: or the D.I.C.K.H.E.A.D rating for short all add up over time to give us an indication of how suitable the client is to be seen. The system is hosted in the British Virgin Islands…so there’s no hassle with data protection. If any clients are wondering why they often get no reply from providers it could be they need to work on their Dickhead rating.

It’s short for cuckold. It means having sex with one partner while the other partner watches or is otherwise aware that the sex is happening (they could be in another room for example). The necessary thing is that the cuckold (the partner not participating) is humiliated by it. Often this is at the initiative of the cuckold who enjoys the humiliation of it, rather than it happening to them unwillingly. Either way, willingly or unwillingly they’re a cuckold. I do these sessions for clients occasionally, usually there’s a dynamic where the cuckold has a small cock and they enjoy the humiliation of a hung guy fucking their partner. The cuckold just watches and isn’t allowed to participate. They enjoy it more if the partner is clearly having a great time. It’s an interesting dynamic.

One of the reasons I stay here. To share my experience: There’s no correlation between being physically attractive and being sexy in bed. None whatsoever. Being sexy is about having self confidence, empathy and intuition. Plus some humour, intelligence and communication skills. The other misconception is that it’s mostly closeted ‘unattractive’ guys that hire. My experience is all sorts of guys hire.

As a provider with pictures and videos of me out there advertising my services I realise my body is going to get criticised. (Although the only criticism my cock has ever had is that it’s too big…just wanted to make that point…). Seriously if you do get sensitive about punters criticising your body then you probably shouldn’t be in this business. However, I think some of the very personal and cutting comment is guys being critical because taking you down makes them feel better about themselves. They’d love to do the work themselves but can’t, so they enjoy criticising those who do put themselves out there.

Well, I’m not going anywhere. So everyone is going to have to put up with my opinions and subtle put downs 😂. One has to fight for civility, decency and the ability to refer to one’s self in the first person… This forum is just a slice of the whole population. There will always be some shallow, un-self-aware, or even malevolent people in any group. They stand out because of their behaviour. They spoil the view of course but they do serve to highlight the contrast of the good stuff that exists if you can keep them in check. I see ignorant comments where guys resort to ad hominem attacks when they can’t argue the point. (That usually gets stopped by the moderators). I also see some quite astonishing ignorance and prejudice about working in the business which sometimes I try to address but then I get told I’m wrong by guys who aren’t providers (strange word btw). Then there’s those who are purely superficial who comment on providers looks as if that’s all the guy has to offer. It’s all here. I have to go back to my point about this place being a microcosm of society. The trouble is society is pretty bad right now where we have leaders who display all of those characteristics: shallow, bombastic, disregarding of experience and expertise, and even sometimes malevolent. Is it any wonder those of a similar nature feel emboldened when they see supposed leaders behaving like this? I know politics isn’t allowed…(moderators please don’t take this down!) but I’m not taking a political side: leaders of right and left are like it. I’m pointing out that when we ignore or hide from these bad actors we allow them to grow and become emboldened. Eventually you run out of hiding places and have to tackle them, so you should never let them get away with it. Ridicule them, hold the mirror up, argue, undermine and challenge them.

If you book through the licensed massage route all you’ll get is a therapeutic massage. Don’t try to make that session an erotic or sensual type of massage: you won’t have paid for that kind of massage (which will undoubtedly be more expensive) and he will not risk his license by offering that kind of massage in a therapeutic session. It’s a definite mistake to try and turn a therapeutic session into something different. Only the masseur can do that. If you want the massage to be sexual then book it via the other route and ask him what activities are included (if it isn’t clear from his advertising). Guys have different definitions of what erotic or sensual involves, so check with him. He might be coy about it if this is in the US where such discussion of payment for sexual services is unlawful, but in grown up countries it’s safe to have such adult conversations. Guys who do both types of massage will keep both services very separate. Different names, different platforms to advertise, different contact arrangements. If you don’t separate them you risk confusing your clients, offending them, losing your license, and giving sexual services for therapeutic prices. Also, someone mentioned to see if he advertises on RentMasseur. Every masseur advertising on that platform includes sexual services as part of massage. It’s the go to site for that kind of massage. Guys offering only licensed massage simply won’t be on there.

Yes agree. I’d add however that if I genuinely wasn’t what someone thought they were hiring or my service wasn’t professional enough then I’d expect that they raised it with me privately first to give me a chance to explain or rectify it. I don’t mind fair criticism (call it feedback: which is a gift) but I’d rather it given to me first before it’s shared everywhere. The kind of review on here that says ‘x was good but for these things y and a which I raised with him and this was his reply’ is much more informative than ‘I didn’t like x’.

Don’t tell everyone Mike! 😱

I’ve done it a few times…hired to be the catalyst at sex parties, although these events were the type where people pay to attend. The organiser wanted to make sure there was a couple of guys happy to go with anyone at the party and who would bring those who were more anxious about participating in the action into things. They were quite large parties (60 people) so there’s always a mix of chat, action in various groups or one to one and just making sure everyone gets to have a good time.

Yeah I know. Thanks for confirming it for me. <<stands back awaiting abuse>>

This isn’t a site to promote your services on. There are much better places to advertise. No provider will waste their time creating profiles to influence their reputation on here. Providers are well aware of the existence of sites like this (and LPSG, Justusboys etc). You just set up a google alert or similar to report to you when your name is mentioned. You find everything. Most don’t engage for the reasons already mentioned: there’s little upside, you can spend the time better, and tbh the site has a reputation…

I don’t think that would happen. A few might try to pose as clients but it would mean going to the bother of creating lots of different profiles: a waste of time. As for ruining the reputation of other providers well that’s something that reveals to me exactly why it’s important for providers like me to comment on here… because that perception that we are competitive is wrong. We’re cooperative. I know dozens of other providers and none of them are competitive. I’ve received so much help and advice from other guys and helped them too. Whilst I do engage on here, I’m very wary of what I say because of the issues that other providers have recounted earlier in this discussion. But I think on balance it’s better to engage, and educate (and be educated) than to disengage. Most people on here seem reasonable. I know I’ve had a few clients off here, and those guys have been great clients. Also I think the site is well moderated. While that persists I’ll continue to participate.

I’m based in London. I charge £140 for an hour sensual massage, £200 for 90m (in call, central London). I shall be putting my rates up soon…cost of living here is high. Most decent masseurs in central will be around £130 to £200 or more for an hour. You can find cheaper but they’ll more likely offer a poor service (no table, baby oil, little effort). As with most things you get what you pay for. If you pay around £100 for an hour you’re likely to get a disappointing experience.

I offer it. Basically it’s for the client to decide what they want included and then to ask for it. Could be a dinner, cinema visit, walk in the park, sauna visit, accompany him to a corporate event as his plus one….whatever. Would always involve some sex but it’s not exclusively sex or erotic massage although those things are involved as part of the whole experience. It has always included a level of intimacy that might not happen in a regular booking such as kissing, cuddling, and usually involves quite a lot of talking. The sessions last from a few hours to a day….I don’t do overnights, although that’s often part of a bf experience. Basically you’re playing the bf role but the challenge is reminding the client that it’s a job without that detracting from the fantasy of what you create. That’s the difficult part.

The OP asked providers if they have experienced clients posting bad reviews because things didn’t go their way. I’ve never had that happen, not knowingly anyway. I guess there could be unflattering reviews or comments out there about me (if anyone finds any please tell me!). Tbh I don’t care. Clients can post whatever they like. You can’t please everyone and those posting vituperative comments will be seen for what they are by most sensible people, and will only influence those clients who I’d prefer didn’t come to me anyway - that’s a positive outcome! By the way, the OP mentions the comments were slanderous. Not so. Slander is spoken not written. If it’s written as a record then the term is libellous (if it’s not true of course). If you say PNP in your adverts / profile then it’s more likely that the dissatisfied client’s comments are true than if your advertising says ‘no drugs’. Personally I have never used drugs because I prefer to be present during sex but I’ve no problem with others using them. They just need to be prepared to be criticised for it. Just like I’m fine to be criticised for doing sex work. People with narrow or closed minds will always do that. Their problem not mine.

This. Be clear about what you want. I think I’m good at reading a client’s desires but sometimes a little clarity before the session helps me to understand what they really want.

That’s British humour 😂

Hmmm. Oh dear. Shall I explain or shall I not bother?

Big car = small dick. There’s a strong correlation.

I think you probably are being unreasonable. I’ve always said on here that to try to negotiate down a guys quote (for whatever reason) starts the interaction off badly. If they ask once that’s ok I guess but when they persist in trying to cut the rate I simply make myself unavailable. I do a few scenarios like you describe: one couple have a massage sequentially and they just sit and watch each other (which I love tbh). Another couple prefer that the one not on the table gets a coffee at a local coffee shop while he waits his turn. Out calls are more difficult for all sorts of reasons: you don’t know the environment you’ll be working in (I’ve had some really awkward spaces), there’s travel time both ways which restricts your availability, there’s also an element of personal risk. All these things come into question when setting rates. Then to have someone try to knock 10% off the quote makes you think they don’t value your time and service as much as you do. If his quote is too much just say ‘thanks but not for me’ and move on.

I saw two clients today. First client wanted me to cum, fairly early into the massage, so I did. Then he wanted me to cum again later on. He hadn’t cum yet and he struggles to get hard …I’ve seen him a few times, it’s always same….he gets semi hard, overthinks, and then goes soft. I faked the second cum; not sure if he noticed but if he did, he didn’t let on. In the end I did manage to get him to cum, once I’d managed to stop him thinking about getting hard and cuming. With guys like him he really should just slow down and let me massage him and build slowly but they can’t do that because they are never in the moment. I knew it would be a challenging session and so it was. He’s a nice well meaning guy so the only challenge is trying to slow him down. The second client was an hour later, a new client who had told me he’s seen my films. That sets a level of expectation that means it will almost certainly be quite interactive (for example he’d told me he was vers, neg and on prep lol). I knew he’d probably want me to cum. The massage panned out exactly how I’d expected, including me cuming. Client came twice. Don’t take this as a complaint. I know that offering sensual or erotic massage, and having porn videos out there will inevitably result in clients having expectations. It’s understandable, but I do think that it’s very difficult to always live up to those expectations. Frankly if the client doesn’t want me to cum then that’s ideal for me, even if that’s the only client of the day.

I attended one in London a few years ago. Over priced, over crowded, over rated. It’s a vanity project for him. Avoid.